I do not fear the disease, I fear the alleged "cure." If the virus were to suddenly disappear tomorrow, the ripple effect of actions taken so far would undulate for a long time and reach a long way.
Type at you later,
Dan McEntee
Overwhelmed hospitals in Italy. Theatrics. Movie making. Fiction. French shut down. Fakers. All those Europeans. Besides we know about them. China. Inscrutable.
Thank you Mr Zambell!!
This post is so on the mark but the problem is that those with any intelligents will understand and believe this, but
the scary thing is, all the lefty liberals with IQs of a dirt clod buying into the BS left agenda.
They will do all they can to trash our economy, and blame it on Trump using this pandemic to get voters to fall for
their twisted, slanted views.
God help this great country.
Thanks again Bob, keep up the good fight
Larry, Buttafucco Stunt Team
Hoarding toilet paper might seem like a silly thing to many. In fact, I think it’s ludicrous. But the fact remains, the store shelves are empty, and when you get down to your last roll your personal panic may ensue.
Hoarding toilet paper might seem like a silly thing to many. In fact, I think it’s ludicrous. But the fact remains, the store shelves are empty, and when you get down to your last roll your personal panic may ensue.
Hoarding toilet paper might seem like a silly thing to many. In fact, I think it’s ludicrous. But the fact remains, the store shelves are empty, and when you get down to your last roll your personal panic may ensue.That's all died down in my neck of the woods - there's more TP on the shelves than you could shake a stick at. What's short now is the anti-bacterial cleaner you spray on your kitchen worktops etc., and I bet that'll be back in stock tomorrow. I just hope it's anti-viral as well as anti-bacterial!
All those nice folks on Wall Street, with their automated-computers, which have all created "sell" orders, have depleted my life savings, which were heavily invested .
That money was not or my use, but intended for my grandkids in my estate. Now, thanks to greedy day-traders, my family is now on their own, and my contribution now has little to offer.
T.J. What you are looking for is a guaranteed annuity. As for the market good luck there's no guarantee there.
Steve
Just an FYI:
2503 dead in Italy currently (7.9% of known infected)
https://www.healthsystemtracker.org/chart-collection/quality-u-s-healthcare-system-compare-countries/#item-cancer-mortality-rate-1980-2015
Right. That's what happens when you put the least efficient organization in any country - the government - in charge of something. And when it proves again to not work, then, we have the same people that created the situation weeping and rending their garments over the "tragedy". *That they themselves caused*. And their solution - do it some more!
The American left has been doing their level best to destroy out health care system (so they can replace it with their own) for 30+ years, basically so they could make it work like the European system that just killed 2500 people over the flu.
Well, mission nearly accomplished - that's why the left is practically dancing in the streets and pulling for more people to die, so that they can "prove" that the system needs to get blown up and replaced completely. And not take even a slight responsibility for the results.
And, as a side effect, put the government in final and ultimate control of everyone's lives - note the many admiring nods toward's China's response, which woudl have made the Nazis blush. Every little Hitler like Newsome, London Breed, etc, will be empowered to tell you where to go, when, how, and have you asking for permission.
An observation - in the Bay Area, it is now nominally legal to smoke dope, but illegal to go to work. That what you let a bucnh of aging hippies run the world.
Brett
Happy to see HIM finally, way late, take some positive steps to benefit the other 99 percent. Us.
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What happened to it’s a hoax? Apparently conservatives can whip 180 degrees, a backwards, without a blink. How do you swivel that fast? Without embarrassment?
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You can talk about statistics but let’s get personal I am 77 have high blood pressure and respond badly to illness. If this thing gets me I could be dead.
What happened to it’s a hoax? Apparently conservatives can whip 180 degrees, a backwards, without a blink. How do you swivel that fast? Without embarrassment? Well trained seals. Or. Lemmings. What’s the sound seals make. Arff. Arff. Dogs do that.
A hoax? Isn’t it all we really wanted at the onset was to see empathy for the possible loss of people and assurance our best interest was being considered and not the personal impact it would have on our leader’s election? What is a country to do if it lacks the equipment to save everyone? We shouldn’t be belittling people forced to make such a heartfelt decision. I’d step aside for my kids or grandkids in a heartbeat if it was a life and death situation because of the love I have for them. This is the way we are programmed, there has to be a framework for making a life and death decision and NY tonight is attempting to establish guidelines. How sad we have arrived at such a point. We can only hope the action we are now feverishly attempting isn’t too late to accommodate the needed care that will most certainly be required in the face of overwhelming odds.
We need (must) make a concerted effort here, we need to put aside partisan finger-pointing. This isn’t about one side trying to dump the economy or dancing in the streets. Our leaders have to reach out at this time, stop calling each other names, show some respect and above all sincere compassion. There is no left or right at this point and everyone has to accept this, I think we can, I only hope Washington can. Anyone that believes this was prompted by the left to rid the president is out if their mind. This is a catastrophe, whether more or less serious compared to some prior outbreak what does it matter? This is now. People in all reality have become frustrated and angry, feeling real fear and reacting accordingly this is normal behavior.
Perhaps people running out to stock up on toilet paper or ammo is an attempt to overcome their fear and attempt to alleviate it. Do we really think this virus will precipitate some form of take over by one faction or another? This is nuts, and yes we probably are going to see our obituaries fill the newspapers as in Italy. Bitterness, frustration, opinionated hatred has no place here it’s time to let it go People are going to die possibly even some of us, not all of us are not in the best condition to deal with this. We have little control except to take the action our leaders are impressing on us. We do have an option, however, to turn to our faith and believe the people of all parties voted to lead us will have the conscience and clarity to do what is best. What else is there? I hope this makes some sense.
Best regards,
Steve
Rants on both sides aside, what percent of the folks on this forum are in the age range to be seriously at risk as I am? I’ll bet it is over 50%! >:D
Ok, everyone wants to talk Corona virus... let's talk about it. Let's talk about how China was fighting against the Hong Kong protesters that were waving American flags and praising Trump.... gone. Let's discuss how Trump has been tough on China and trade and theft of intellectual property. Now china threatens to withhold the ingredients for medicines. Let's talk about how the democrats and main stream media have blamed Trump for everything since he was elected and have come out and said they hoped the stock market would crash to make him look bad. Let's talk about how we had a Harvard professor of bio chem working secretly for the Chinese and getting paid really well, while lying about his connections. We all have seen what these leftist college professors have indoctrinated our young people and how nasty they've been towards anyone that supports Trump. We've all seen how far the left and dems are willing to go to regain power and how the media has been used to promote their fake stories. Now we see them blame Trump for a Chinese virus and use the dem media to scare people and destabilize our markets. Let's talk about the Chinese girl that they're looking for, that they think is now back in china , that had access to our defense department and military. How about the chinese guy they busted at the airport with vials of bio materials hidden in his sock! How about the Chinese driver that was discovered working for Fienstein? Let's talk about how there's not more talk about protests in Venezuela. How about the fact that there's a bio lab in Wuhan, near that market they blamed and the professor had ties to that lab. Now China is trying to blame the virus on our military... makes no sense...since when do we have troops in China? How about Nancy Pelosi trying to sneak in abortion funding into the funding bill for the virus. Let's talk about all the scandals that aren't being talked about now.... like Hunter and Joe Biden's corruption in Ukraine or how Nancy and Schiff abused power in congress to continue this never ending witch hunt against our President. So all you sheeple...go ahead and beat eachother over toilet paper. You're now getting a taste of socialism at it's finest. Lack of supplies, waiting in line, media scaring everyone while screwing the economy and only telling you what they think you should know. Let's look at Italy where they're not going to treat the elderly because it's too much and they want to treat the young people.. there's your socialized death squad medicine for you. Go ahead and panic like dems want. The rest of us that are still sane and are the last bastions of common sense aren't going to panic, We're not falling for the BS and yes, we will still vote Trump!
Right. That's what happens when you put the least efficient organization in any country - the government - in charge of something. And when it proves again to not work, then, we have the same people that created the situation weeping and rending their garments over the "tragedy". *That they themselves caused*. And their solution - do it some more!
The American left has been doing their level best to destroy out health care system (so they can replace it with their own) for 30+ years, basically so they could make it work like the European system that just killed 2500 people over the flu.
Well, mission nearly accomplished - that's why the left is practically dancing in the streets and pulling for more people to die, so that they can "prove" that the system needs to get blown up and replaced completely. And not take even a slight responsibility for the results.
And, as a side effect, put the government in final and ultimate control of everyone's lives - note the many admiring nods toward's China's response, which woudl have made the Nazis blush. Every little Hitler like Newsome, London Breed, etc, will be empowered to tell you where to go, when, how, and have you asking for permission.
An observation - in the Bay Area, it is now nominally legal to smoke dope, but illegal to go to work. That what you let a bucnh of aging hippies run the world.
Brett
Ok, everyone wants to talk Corona virus... let's talk about it. Let's talk about how China was fighting against the Hong Kong protesters that were waving American flags and praising Trump.... gone. Let's discuss how Trump has been tough on China and trade and theft of intellectual property. Now china threatens to withhold the ingredients for medicines. Let's talk about how the democrats and main stream media have blamed Trump for everything since he was elected and have come out and said they hoped the stock market would crash to make him look bad. Let's talk about how we had a Harvard professor of bio chem working secretly for the Chinese and getting paid really well, while lying about his connections. We all have seen what these leftist college professors have indoctrinated our young people and how nasty they've been towards anyone that supports Trump. We've all seen how far the left and dems are willing to go to regain power and how the media has been used to promote their fake stories. Now we see them blame Trump for a Chinese virus and use the dem media to scare people and destabilize our markets. Let's talk about the Chinese girl that they're looking for, that they think is now back in china , that had access to our defense department and military. How about the chinese guy they busted at the airport with vials of bio materials hidden in his sock! How about the Chinese driver that was discovered working for Fienstein? Let's talk about how there's not more talk about protests in Venezuela. How about the fact that there's a bio lab in Wuhan, near that market they blamed and the professor had ties to that lab. Now China is trying to blame the virus on our military... makes no sense...since when do we have troops in China? How about Nancy Pelosi trying to sneak in abortion funding into the funding bill for the virus. Let's talk about all the scandals that aren't being talked about now.... like Hunter and Joe Biden's corruption in Ukraine or how Nancy and Schiff abused power in congress to continue this never ending witch hunt against our President. So all you sheeple...go ahead and beat eachother over toilet paper. You're now getting a taste of socialism at it's finest. Lack of supplies, waiting in line, media scaring everyone while screwing the economy and only telling you what they think you should know. Let's look at Italy where they're not going to treat the elderly because it's too much and they want to treat the young people.. there's your socialized death squad medicine for you. Go ahead and panic like dems want. The rest of us that are still sane and are the last bastions of common sense aren't going to panic, We're not falling for the BS and yes, we will still vote Trump!
The other viewpoint.
https://www.smh.com.au/business/the-economy/bring-back-big-government-companies-can-t-save-us-20200319-p54bly.html
Another short sighted narrow minded viewpoint, one way and that's it for you? Wow.
I have to get back to building model airplanes.Good idea.
Mike,
You have assembled many details developing your argument to support the Trump administration in its argument that this dilemma was caused by the Democratic party or whoever. You are angry and frustrated as many of us with the situation we now face with this pandemic along with the consequences to our economy. It wells up many long-standing partisan sore points for sure. So let’s ask is Donald Trump the leader he claims (promised) to be? Is he capable of getting us out of this mess? I’ll agree, many of your points are indisputable but let’s ask why we are really here. Donald’s popularity is dropping significantly and the general consensus is people including folks in his own administration do not think he is handling this war correctly. Many say he has not been truthful and has not grasped the challenge to lead the country in this crisis. Many say he will not accept responsibility but would take full credit if this was to all miraculously go away tomorrow as he so incorrectly predicted it would.
The fact is and you must agree in 2018, John. Bolton under the direction of Donald Trump gutted the CDC and all its departments and direction. It was part of the Trump cost-cutting plan he promised if elected. The CDC was established under Obama following the Ebola crisis and in an attempt to protect us in the event of a biological attack. It was under the CDC the testing requirements were developed to meet the nation’s demands in the event of a crisis like today but later scrapped. It was under the scrapped plan that developed the 10,000 federal ventilators now available that Trump’s administration, now prides itself on having. Also, the tariffs on China have forced them to sell the medical equipment we now need to other countries who have stockpiled leaving us with nothing.
Where does this leave us now? Should we compare the cost Donald attempted to save by eliminating the CDC to the financial burden we now are faced with? Saving perhaps a half a million dumping the CDC compared to a Trillion or more we now must absorb. A very poor decision, he had no concept of what he was doing. And now Bolton his hatchet man is out for him, unbelievable, with a book he may as a result never release. Would you, after what’s occurred if you were Bolton? Hey, people make mistakes nobody’s perfect but isn’t it now about accountability for the damage he caused? It’s about accountability for the business that will be lost, the economy and families hurt and loss of confidence in the nation. And we mustn’t fail to mention the loss of life of good people, there’s no price tag on this. Spoils of war I guess? Just old geezers, who cares anyway about them anyway right? How about some compassion.
Now I’m going to tell you I voted for Trump as a die-hard Republican, I’m no lefty. I owned and operated my own business for almost 30 years and was caught up in Donald’s promises for change. I was tired of attempting to survive in a handout country, tired of supporting everyone else, and the struggle. I wanted a leader, who promised to turn things around. I envisioned a businessman with ethics and standards the country was built on. I feel I was let down, the country is more divided now than the ’50s with Jim Crow and the black experience of that time. There is more hatred now than we can ever recall. Wasn’t it Donald’s responsibility to further the attempts of his predecessors of both parties to bring this nation closer together. He has accomplished nothing only worsened things. He has failed, destroyed years of good work. For a county to be successful it must be together and have good leadership. Requiring a trusted and respected president that expresses his faith in God and confidence in view of all turmoil. Someone that takes ownership, accountability and understands what it is to leave a legacy as well as warrant the respect of his neighbor nations.
So, Mike, I don’t care about China, where this virus originated or finger-pointing it doesn’t matter. I’m just plain disgusted, disappointed our leader isn’t the man I thought he was. I’m now in my 70s and I am a high risk for the virus. I was also proud to serve this country during the 60s turmoil and I don’t care that trump dodged the draft it means nothing to me. I feel sorry for the armed forces today, how must they feel when they look back from afar at this administration, it’s failed leadership and how their commander ignores the values this nation was built upon. I cannot again vote for a person like Donald Trump, we can not afford another term of this turmoil. In truth, I think he has hurt himself badly, I think it’s caught up with him. I don’t think our country will bring him back. Understand I’m not looking for a fight, I won’t go there, it’s not my style and I respect your knowledge in CL but please convince me why I should place stock in this man, I would appreciate that.
Disappointed and disgusted, I have to get back to building model airplanes.
The folks in Washington are now trying to convince us that "There is no Democrat or Republican, only American" during this crisis. Well,I haven't yet seen that happening. It still looks like a "us versus them" mentality, which isn't going to go away.
With a non funtioning democratic system, there is a solution;
Maybe a second civil war will sober you all up.
Should be no problem with 300+ million weapons in the hands of civilians.
The Canadians are not blessed with the usa at their border.
Nor are the mexicans.
Mike,
You have assembled many details developing your argument to support the Trump administration in its argument that this dilemma was caused by the Democratic party or whoever. You are angry and frustrated as many of us with the situation we now face with this pandemic along with the consequences to our economy. It wells up many long-standing partisan sore points for sure. So let’s ask is Donald Trump the leader he claims (promised) to be? Is he capable of getting us out of this mess? I’ll agree, many of your points are indisputable but let’s ask why we are really here. Donald’s popularity is dropping significantly and the general consensus is people including folks in his own administration do not think he is handling this war correctly. Many say he has not been truthful and has not grasped the challenge to lead the country in this crisis. Many say he will not accept responsibility but would take full credit if this was to all miraculously go away tomorrow as he so incorrectly predicted it would.
The fact is and you must agree in 2018, John. Bolton under the direction of Donald Trump gutted the CDC and all its departments and direction. It was part of the Trump cost-cutting plan he promised if elected. The CDC was established under Obama following the Ebola crisis and in an attempt to protect us in the event of a biological attack. It was under the CDC the testing requirements were developed to meet the nation’s demands in the event of a crisis like today but later scrapped. It was under the scrapped plan that developed the 10,000 federal ventilators now available that Trump’s administration, now prides itself on having. Also, the tariffs on China have forced them to sell the medical equipment we now need to other countries who have stockpiled leaving us with nothing.
Where does this leave us now? Should we compare the cost Donald attempted to save by eliminating the CDC to the financial burden we now are faced with? Saving perhaps a half a million dumping the CDC compared to a Trillion or more we now must absorb. A very poor decision, he had no concept of what he was doing. And now Bolton his hatchet man is out for him, unbelievable, with a book he may as a result never release. Would you, after what’s occurred if you were Bolton? Hey, people make mistakes nobody’s perfect but isn’t it now about accountability for the damage he caused? It’s about accountability for the business that will be lost, the economy and families hurt and loss of confidence in the nation. And we mustn’t fail to mention the loss of life of good people, there’s no price tag on this. Spoils of war I guess? Just old geezers, who cares anyway about them anyway right? How about some compassion.
Now I’m going to tell you I voted for Trump as a die-hard Republican, I’m no lefty. I owned and operated my own business for almost 30 years and was caught up in Donald’s promises for change. I was tired of attempting to survive in a handout country, tired of supporting everyone else, and the struggle. I wanted a leader, who promised to turn things around. I envisioned a businessman with ethics and standards the country was built on. I feel I was let down, the country is more divided now than the ’50s with Jim Crow and the black experience of that time. There is more hatred now than we can ever recall. Wasn’t it Donald’s responsibility to further the attempts of his predecessors of both parties to bring this nation closer together. He has accomplished nothing only worsened things. He has failed, destroyed years of good work. For a county to be successful it must be together and have good leadership. Requiring a trusted and respected president that expresses his faith in God and confidence in view of all turmoil. Someone that takes ownership, accountability and understands what it is to leave a legacy as well as warrant the respect of his neighbor nations.
So, Mike, I don’t care about China, where this virus originated or finger-pointing it doesn’t matter. I’m just plain disgusted, disappointed our leader isn’t the man I thought he was. I’m now in my 70s and I am a high risk for the virus. I was also proud to serve this country during the 60s turmoil and I don’t care that trump dodged the draft it means nothing to me. I feel sorry for the armed forces today, how must they feel when they look back from afar at this administration, it’s failed leadership and how their commander ignores the values this nation was built upon. I cannot again vote for a person like Donald Trump, we can not afford another term of this turmoil. In truth, I think he has hurt himself badly, I think it’s caught up with him. I don’t think our country will bring him back. Understand I’m not looking for a fight, I won’t go there, it’s not my style and I respect your knowledge in CL but please convince me why I should place stock in this man, I would appreciate that.
Disappointed and disgusted, I have to get back to building model airplanes.
Ready for the next debacle?
As we all know use of wipes has been a sticking point with many wastewater treatment facilities for some time. The nondegradable wipes do not breakdown as does toilet paper and many facilities have posted shots of what they call monster clogs. The wipes become cemented together with oils and fats that were washed down drains. They are being called “fatbergs”, and costly to remove. Some have been found as large as a bus. Some municipalities have even filed lawsuits with the companies manufacturing the wipes.
So what's to come? We all know many will be resorting to paper towels and rags in addition to wipes as they remain available for the cleanup task in the absence of TP. The next alternative paper towels are close to wipes, they don't break down quickly and certainly will cause havoc.
Considering how it's only been a little over a week since the TP scarcity surfaced how long will it take before street sewer lines will become restricted with masses of paper towels? Most insurance companies will cover the consequential clean up resulting from the backup but cost to excavate and repair the line out is generally not a covered peril. Will Washington bail us out? I'm gonna chuckle the day a reporter asks Mike and Donald for a Sewer Line Stimulus" in view of the COVID-19 catastrophe.
Gotta have fun somehow!!
Steve
I had hoped our Typhoid Mary's were a thing of the past.y1 y1
You aren't living the reincarnation of East Berlin. I am.Yes, if I understand correctly, you are on mandatory lockdown there in the people's republic of commifornia, especially in the Bay Area.
Brett
Don't want to get into the political argument here (I'm an elected non-partisan local official) who has been working with federal, state and local organizations to coordinate our resources before our healthcare system gets totally overwhelmed by the unchecked exponential spread of this novel coronavirus such as Italy has experienced. Our state (Minnesota) is one of the milder outbreaks but our governor has taken strong initiative to try to stay ahead of the curve.
In the meantime, my public works folks have had to go to split work shifts, wrecking their family routines to repair our sewers when folks use those 'flushable' wipes and for isolation precautions in case one shift has a member who contracts the virus.
We're still learning about the characteristics of COVID-19 virus. It does little good to find someone else to blame. It's here and it's deadly. Not as deadly as Ebola but far more deadly than our seasonal influenza. Yes, I've seen comparisons saying we kill 40,000 Americans a year in automobile accidents but this virus can kill that same number in a matter of a few weeks. Most of us are in the age group who is most at risk.
As much as I abhor the political bantering, I'm more in disgust with the revelers on the Florida beaches who feel invincible or don't care if they contract the virus because nothing should interfere with their right to party. I had hoped our Typhoid Mary's were a thing of the past.
Yes, if I understand correctly, you are on mandatory lockdown there in the people's republic of commifornia, especially in the Bay Area.
I don't envy your location.
Businesses and companies are compensated, so that after this disaster everyone can proceed as quickly as possible.
Everyone here has affordable health insurance $150 a month, USA $ 2000 month)
In the USA 90,000,000 people not insured or under insured.
With the current measures en the EU, there is enough room in the ICs for everyone, if necessary.
Measures are communicated between the states across the EU, but customization is possible in each state. ( In the USA on federal level there is not much activity, states care for their self)
Everything is being done to protect vulnerable groups, such as the elderly, or people of frail health, from the virus.
Many retired doctors and nurses have resumed their work without any burocracy.
I my self did the shopping for an older neighbor.
All things considered,the people appreciate the government and our Congress for the way things are handled, but also the politicians who have put aside their party positions, except for some of the populist far right.
The general feeling is; we are all in the same boat.
But maybe we can also use American solutions;
For example, I read in the newspaper that in a number of places in the USA the stocks of ammo in shops are exhausted, and that people are now buying an assault rifle for the first time in their lives.
That will improve the situation a lot.
Brett;
Dunning-Kruger effect; look at your self and think! Try it!
In two months you will spent more than $ 3000.
Keep the blood pressure down.
Keep living as happy as you are now.
Remember you are normal, only different.
Kind regards;
Max
Brett;
Dunning-Kruger effect; look at your self and think! Try it!
In two months you will spent more than $ 3000.
Keep the blood pressure down.
Keep living as happy as you are now.
Remember you are normal, only different.
Things are going very badly in Spain
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-spain-idUSKBN2172KO (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-spain-idUSKBN2172KO)
Spain and Italy reacted to late, just as you all do.
Face the consequences.
Spain and Italy reacted to late, just as you all do.
Face the consequences.
Brett;
Dunning-Kruger effect; look at your self and think! Try it!
In two months you will spent more than $ 3000.
Keep the blood pressure down.
Keep living as happy as you are now.
Remember you are normal, only different.
Kind regards;
Max
Spain and Italy reacted to late, just as you all do.
Face the consequences.
The last thing anyone here needs is a lecture on liberty from a European.
Brett
We saved your asses during WW2 and have bailed you out on numerous occasions.
Reference material attached ...
Here is message for Max and every other non citizen of this country. We don't give a damn how you do it in Europe. Period. DO NOT come on this forum and try to lecture us about anything. Your ignorance is only surpassed by your gross stupidity. We saved your asses during WW2 and have bailed you out on numerous occasions. You want to talk about model planes, fine but don't come on here and be arrogant pricks. I am so tired of this crap.
Mike
Mike I think if you look at real history books (the ones without all the pictures) you'll find that the French financed and won the Revolutionary War on behalf of the rather disorganized continental states. Perhaps you're not aware of the enormous contribution that the European's in general made to the foundation of the USA? Also I think that you'll find that most scholars agree that the Soviets made the biggest contribution to victory in WW2 of all the Allies. You're sounding very much like a Monty Python skit, "what have the Europeans ever done for us?" I see that someone has already mentioned the Dunning Kruger effect, Paranoia and Xenophobia.
In view of the recent leadership shenanigans in your country, it may be better if your Government detains the Clown in Chief, and humbly apologize to Her Majesty for the past insult to good King George the 3rd. She make take you up again as a colony if you're lucky.
Mike I think if you look at real history books (the ones without all the pictures) you'll find that the French financed and won the Revolutionary War on behalf of the rather disorganized continental states. Perhaps you're not aware of the enormous contribution that the European's in general made to the foundation of the USA? Also I think that you'll find that most scholars agree that the Soviets made the biggest contribution to victory in WW2 of all the Allies. You're sounding very much like a Monty Python skit, "what have the Europeans ever done for us?" I see that someone has already mentioned the Dunning Kruger effect, Paranoia and Xenophobia.
In view of the recent leadership shenanigans in your country, it may be better if your Government detains the Clown in Chief, and humbly apologize to Her Majesty for the past insult to good King George the 3rd. She make take you up again as a colony if you're lucky.
Mike I think if you look at real history books (the ones without all the pictures) you'll find that the French financed and won the Revolutionary War on behalf of the rather disorganized continental states. Perhaps you're not aware of the enormous contribution that the European's in general made to the foundation of the USA? Also I think that you'll find that most scholars agree that the Soviets made the biggest contribution to victory in WW2 of all the Allies. You're sounding very much like a Monty Python skit, "what have the Europeans ever done for us?" I see that someone has already mentioned the Dunning Kruger effect, Paranoia and Xenophobia.It is rare that I let a post get to me but yours did. I have no clue how old you are and you obviously have not read the part about using your name. I learned the history of WWII from my father and his two brothers who were there. In summary, you are full of crap. This site is for the promotion of Stunt and it is rare that we get into politics. Nothing will kill a thread quicker than posts like yours. I would never consider insulting a culture that you obviously do not understand.
In view of the recent leadership shenanigans in your country, it may be better if your Government detains the Clown in Chief, and humbly apologize to Her Majesty for the past insult to good King George the 3rd. She make take you up again as a colony if you're lucky.
Weapons Production: ALL Allied nations produced about 640,000 aircraft between 1939 and 1945; America alone produced more than 300,000 of those. Russia produced about 158,000. The disparity is much greater in other weapons (systems); who became the great ship builders?
So easy when you aren't getting bombed morning, noon and night! Remind me how many actual bombs / munitions have actually fallen on the continental USA in the last 100 years?
Why does the USA insist on being the world's policeman if you don't like the rest of the world so much? Why choose the pre-emptive invasion option when not ever having to fend off that option yourselves - how would you feel if it was tried - pretty pissed I guess? Maybe if YOU stopped meddling in the affairs of others, they wouldn't be so hostile against you - Iran or Afghanistan are hardly liable to try invading the USA?
No one has any right to degrade the memory of ANYONE (friend or foe) who served their country during wartime as wars are fought by ordinary people under the direction of politicians for reasons most don't understand or necessarily agree with but generally behind the scenes someone profits from wars - generally people that are supplying the materials, raw or unfinished.
Pull out of NATO, the majority of europeans wouldn't even notice / care - don't threaten to do it - just do it. The era of 'Sabre rattling' diplomacy is over, lets everyone stop trying to convert the 'other side' to christianity / islam, communist / capitalist, socialist / liberalist / conservative, expansionist / isolationist etc. etc. etc. and we may get on a whole lot better?
This virus doesn't care where you are, how wealthy or poor you are or what your politics are - just how sick it can make you ! ! ! One would hope that every country possessing a pharma industry is striving to produce a vaccine and when it becomes available, the recipe is shared around freely - but I doubt that will happen . . . . . . . . as said, there are always profiteers in war time!
So easy when you aren't getting bombed morning, noon and night! Remind me how many actual bombs / munitions have actually fallen on the continental USA in the last 100 years?
Many experts in such matters - and that clearly doesn’t include me - argue the French had perhaps the best tanks in the world when WWII began; their weakness was the inability to communicate by radio in the field. And their Air Force was regarded as superior to Germany’s.
I strongly recommend that anyone who wishes to know the truth of France's collapse in 1940 should read Assignment to Catastrophe by E L Spears, who was possibly the most Francophile Englishman of the twentieth century. The French Army's lack of communications was only one of a long list of failures, yet its commanders - Petain, Weygand etc. - seemed honestly to believe that it was the 'best army in the world'. Many of those failures, incidentally, were administrative rather than equipment-related.
Yeah, that is exactly correct. And don't ever forget it. There were very minor efforts to assault the US mainland during WW-2 but no serious efforts because they knew it would be futile. It would have been real easy to sit on our hands as isolationists like so many wanted to at those times. And if we had, would you be here today and speaking the language that you do? Something to ponder.
Type at you later,
Dan McEntee
Very true, Dan. If not for the geography which allowed North America to be out of reach of any serious offensive campaign the Japanese and Germans might have attempted, our industrial capability could have been crippled and the world might be quite different now.
And, although the Atlantic Ocean shielded us to some extent, remember how serious the situation was in England due to the U-boats. At one time, England was down to about one month supply of food, ammo, gasoline, etc. If not for the massive production capability of the U. S., the U-boat campaign would have succeeded. Instead, we produced more ships than the Germans could sink, we produced more planes than the Germans could shoot down, etc.
So, instead of bitching about how "lucky" WE were, you should be thankful for it, because, in the end, YOU benefitted from it.
Just my 2 cents regarding this issue.
Ahh. The trained seals are barking.You sure are.
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How many people who have publicly called covid-19 a hoax on this forum are willing to publicly commit to not going to the hospital and taking up valuable bed space if they get diagnosed with covid? Come on big talkers, it’s a big hoax.
Are all the "Conservative" right-wingers using only one square to do their part?Probably not. One has never been enough. Maybe progressives can do it with one but that would mean that they have wisecracks.
If you read each and every post, I think you will find that no one has stated that it was a hoax, just a gross over reaction and driven hysteria, and as the thread title asks, compared to what?? More people are and will die from the flu. Most people that contract Covid19 are being treated at home. We see the photos and videos of celebrities and such waving to us from behind glass doors. The average, normally healthy person would only get symptoms similar to a bad cold, and that has been known since the very beginning, but has not been emphasized enough. As I watch my local news, they are starting to run out of things to get dramatic about their "facts about Covid19" are getting more menial by the day. There are people that need to be concerned about it, but their conditions are that they need to be concerned about a LOT of other illnesses also. It has been stated and proven by a lot of prominent doctors that you are statistically more likely to die from a flu virus. I'll bet there have been a lot of people that HAVE had it, but didn't know it, and just self treated as they would have a normal cold or flu. I think that is why you have some of these concentrated "breakouts" And even at it's worst, you are still only talking about 200 some odd case world wide out of a population of billions of people. The people that efforts should be focused on are the most at risk which are the elderly with existing health complications, and other ages with similar health issues. You are talking about a MUCH smaller target and you wouldn't have to worry about these shortages. Check out that map that Ted posted the link to and look at it closely and let that sink in. Then watch that video that Tony Drago posted and let that sink in. There is more being done to drive and fan the hysteria and panic than there is to suppress it and spread good information. Time will tell what was correct.
Type at you later,
Dan McEntee
Maybe you guys didn’t notice that Orange Inflated didn’t say word one in support of Hong Kong. Kissy kissy.
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Ok, a few more have come to mind. Your responses have to be your own, nothing off line let's be original.
Here's a few more to add.
Quips # 2
I used to go to the shower to freshen up now I take a shower to detoxify.
Traditionally when I discovered the roll was down to the last square I’d swing around to find a new roll sitting on the tank. Now I have to wonder where the wife is hiding the stash.
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Steve,
You have some alternatives:
1. Give up.
2. Bend over.
3. Man up and make lemonade.
4. Continue whining. I have some cheese I can Fedex you if you need it.
Mike I think if you look at real history books (the ones without all the pictures) you'll find that the French financed and won the Revolutionary War on behalf of the rather disorganized continental states. Perhaps you're not aware of the enormous contribution that the European's in general made to the foundation of the USA? Also I think that you'll find that most scholars agree that the Soviets made the biggest contribution to victory in WW2 of all the Allies. You're sounding very much like a Monty Python skit, "what have the Europeans ever done for us?" I see that someone has already mentioned the Dunning Kruger effect, Paranoia and Xenophobia.
In view of the recent leadership shenanigans in your country, it may be better if your Government detains the Clown in Chief, and humbly apologize to Her Majesty for the past insult to good King George the 3rd. She make take you up again as a colony if you're lucky.
Maybe you guys didn’t notice that Orange Inflated didn’t say word one in support of Hong Kong. Kissy kissy.
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Great to hear you are flying again. H^^
Maybe you guys didn’t notice that Orange Inflated didn’t say word one in support of Hong Kong. Kissy kissy.
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Wow!!! Deep, Dennis! Impeccable name calling!
What are you now, in the "next" to bottom quintile of your second grade trash talking class?
Just guessing here...I bet you borrowed that colorfully clever crotch carresser from somebody else in the class and just pretended you made it up yourself. Right?
Hey, take it easy on Dennis - it's really hard making it as a playwright, when you are functionally illiterate.
Brett
So easy when you aren't getting bombed morning, noon and night! Remind me how many actual bombs / munitions have actually fallen on the continental USA in the last 100 years?
Why does the USA insist on being the world's policeman if you don't like the rest of the world so much? Why choose the pre-emptive invasion option when not ever having to fend off that option yourselves - how would you feel if it was tried - pretty pissed I guess? Maybe if YOU stopped meddling in the affairs of others, they wouldn't be so hostile against you - Iran or Afghanistan are hardly liable to try invading the USA?
No one has any right to degrade the memory of ANYONE (friend or foe) who served their country during wartime as wars are fought by ordinary people under the direction of politicians for reasons most don't understand or necessarily agree with but generally behind the scenes someone profits from wars - generally people that are supplying the materials, raw or unfinished.
Pull out of NATO, the majority of europeans wouldn't even notice / care - don't threaten to do it - just do it. The era of 'Sabre rattling' diplomacy is over, lets everyone stop trying to convert the 'other side' to christianity / islam, communist / capitalist, socialist / liberalist / conservative, expansionist / isolationist etc. etc. etc. and we may get on a whole lot better?
This virus doesn't care where you are, how wealthy or poor you are or what your politics are - just how sick it can make you ! ! ! One would hope that every country possessing a pharma industry is striving to produce a vaccine and when it becomes available, the recipe is shared around freely - but I doubt that will happen . . . . . . . . as said, there are always profiteers in war time!
Well, this discussion has taken a turn. With our cohort, it often returns to WW II history.
The battle of Kursk was not won primarily with lend-lease tanks, but instead the T-34. This is not to diminish the contributions of the Americans and British to the Soviets, but simply to recognize the 57,000 T-34s produced during the war.
Good News!! Due to airlines being pretty much shut sown. CNN has lost 99.8% of its viewers.
Good News!! Due to airlines being pretty much shut sown. CNN has lost 99.8% of its viewers.LL~ y1 in that order.
For info the "hoax" the president was referring to was some news "reporting",NOT the virus. H^^
Different subject. Is this going to be the first manned launch of Space-X?
If it is, many prayers for the crew.
Good News!! Due to airlines being pretty much shut sown. CNN has lost 99.8% of its viewers.
For info the "hoax" the president was referring to was some news "reporting",NOT the virus. H^^
John Hammonds,
I can't agree with you more on your many points and for anyone to say what Tom McClain has said (he said some say) ----he says, as follows, I have the following final comment.
"Some of the gloom and doom on this thread reminds of Grandpa Jones and Junior on that (outstanding) TV show of the 70s and early 80s named "Hee Haw". They would sing the following ditty:"
Gloom despair and agony on me
Deep dark depression excessive misery
If I had no bad luck I have no luck at all
Gloom despair and agony on me
"I just can't identify with this"
We are in a real serious jamb here in our country and worldwide and it's going to get worse while some like this fool enjoy making lite of others' difficulties. HE said "he can't identify with that" people like him are typically unable to.
I'm now stepping away at this point and leaving my word I will never waste my time looking at this bizarre thread again. I have no respect for the thinking of these people. Perhaps I can block it. I RECOMMEND ANYONE WATCHING HERE THAT HAS ANY SENSE AND CAPACITY FOR HUMANITY STAY AWAY. LEAVE THESE SAD, LACKING, BACKSTABBING, BIGOTTED AND NARROW-MINDED PEOPLE TO THEMSELVES, THEY DESERVE KICKING EACH OTHER AROUND AND HAVE NO PLACE ON MODELING PLATFORM LIKE SH.
Goodbye I'll see you at the next modeling appropriate topic
Steve
Isn't there a saying that goes something like, "Blessed are those that can keep their heads while those all around are loosing theirs!"
Type at you later,
Dan McEntee
Sorry for the lateness in responding to my own thread but nobody to blame but myself.And now that you have our tempered response... LL~
I had no idea what an interesting assortment of replies it would generate! Furthermore, I’m pleased to say that most of the responses were informative, polite, to the point and showed a true sense of patriotism.
I learned a lot from you and I thank you for the kinds comments!!
Of course, a few of the responses were cruel, mean, ignorant and totally uncalled-for.
So, there are a few Trump haters out there.
Here’s my challenge: Who do you think would make a better President than Trump?
Let’s hear your answers.
If you don’t answer, I will take your silence as a true sign of ignorance as you haven’t a clue what’s going on in the world. You just enjoy hiding behind your keyboard, bitching, complaining and hurling insults at one of the best presidents in history.
The only thing you accomplish is making complete fools of yourselves.
You don’t like the way our country is being run? THEN LEAVE.
And you foreigners who insult and complain about Trump? Simple solution: STAY IN YOUR OWN COUNTRY. Enjoy your pathetic royal weddings, liberal and sickening excuses for leaders and complete lack of knowledge of our wonderful country. Your opinions and insults ARE NOT WELCOME, at least not by me.
Bob Z.
Walsh had often joked about running for office, announcing a mock presidential campaign in 1980 and a vice presidential campaign in 1992. Walsh ran for President of the United States in 1980, promising to make "Life's Been Good" the new national anthem if he won, and ran on a platform of "Free Gas For Everyone".[63] Though Walsh was only 32 at the time of the election and thus would not have met the 35-year-old requirement to actually assume office, he said that he wanted to raise public awareness of the election.[64] In 1992 Walsh ran for vice president with Rev. Goat Carson under the slogan "We Want Our Money Back!"[65]
Better president?
Ask anybody!
Max, from Europe.
Spain and Italy reacted to late, just as you all do.
Face the consequences.
Max,
Several other people have already told you what a smug, pompous jerk you are so I won't bother with adding to that.
Never thought that the panic would hit Dallas but then I forgot we have a Democrat Mayor. We go on lockdown at midnight tonight. Everything will be shut down except utility bills and taxes.
Ken
And this attitude , Steve, is exactly why I can't go out and find a roll of toilet paper tonight, if I had real need of it. What you are displaying is the panic and hysteria that some of us are talking about. "We" all are not in a real jam. This "thing" is NOT a death sentence for EVERYONE that happens to contract it. There is no reason to be stupid and not take some precaution, but to panic and run around like Chicken Little is ridiculous. I asked the question before, is there anyone that has been directly affected by this event, and I don't think anyone has answered other than me. I got laid off for three weeks because of orders practically coming to a stop, and the owner of the company was just looking for a reason to lay people off, but told us they were 'giving you the opportunity to self quarantine at home and avoid further transmission." even in a high population density area like New York, you might go a long way before you find some one that has been directly affected. But millions and millions of peoples lives have been affected due to the markets crashing, and some people's futures ruined because of this panic. And there is no reason for it. Even with some people's concerns about flying and traveling on cruise ships have been over blown. Yes, some people have contracted the virus, but again, compared to what? People get sick on cruise ships and die every year, and is the main reason I won't ever go on one. But that happens under "normal circumstances." It would be interesting to see a comparison of deaths per year on cruise ships against what has happened recently with the virus. As of just a few minutes ago, the death total WORLD WIDE is still far below what the total deaths from the flu have been in THIS COUNTRY for the last year. Not even half, and flu season isn't over yet for a while. Yes, this is a serious situation, but it has also has shown me who I would want to have around me in an emergency or if I was stranded on a deserted island and who I would NOT want around. Isn't there a saying that goes something like, "Blessed are those that can keep their heads while those all around are loosing theirs!"
Type at you later,
Dan McEntee
So there were 34,200 flu deaths and 38,800 traffic deaths. Makes you wonder why more resources aren't directed to traffic safety and prevention and treatment of the flu.
Max,
Several other people have already told you what a smug, pompous jerk you are so I won't bother with adding to that. Instead, since you think the Netherlands are so superior to the USA let's compare the current statistics.
In the USA as of this morning we have 39517 confirmed cases resulting in 473 deaths. So a little less than 1.2% of the cases have died. The total cases represent .012% of our population.
In the Netherlands this morning you have 4750 cases resulting in 213 deaths. That means 4.48% of the known cases died and .028% of the population is infected.
I am no mathematician, but it appears to me that your country has over twice the rate of infection and a death rate almost 4 times higher.
You would think that since your country has superior political and health systems to the USA that those numbers would be reversed. Yet another case study in the wonders of socialized medicine.
Now if you would be so kind to redo your calculation but based on land area / population density, I would not be surprised if the numbers are more comparable? China's infection rate of 81,000 against a population of 1.10 billion actually compares better than the USA figures 39,500 and 330 million. Both countries being roughly equal in area but one having nearly 4x the population you would expect their sickness rates to be 4x worse with their 'poor social / commie' health system but its maybe not the case.
last I heard the death rate here is right at 2 percent of those that get it. That is the same as the flu. We are all going to suffer the economic effect of the panic.
A better president?
I'm not going to answer. That doesn't make me ignorant, as the challenge suggests.
I refuse to offer even a hint or my political beliefs. If I did, it would not change anyone's else's political beliefs.
You can't attack me if you don't know where I stand.
Sorry for the lateness in responding to my own thread but nobody to blame but myself.
I had no idea what an interesting assortment of replies it would generate! Furthermore, I’m pleased to say that most of the responses were informative, polite, to the point and showed a true sense of patriotism.
I learned a lot from you and I thank you for the kinds comments!!
Of course, a few of the responses were cruel, mean, ignorant and totally uncalled-for.
So, there are a few Trump haters out there.
Here’s my challenge: Who do you think would make a better President than Trump?
Let’s hear your answers.
If you don’t answer, I will take your silence as a true sign of ignorance as you haven’t a clue what’s going on in the world. You just enjoy hiding behind your keyboard, bitching, complaining and hurling insults at one of the best presidents in history.
The only thing you accomplish is making complete fools of yourselves.
You don’t like the way our country is being run? THEN LEAVE.
And you foreigners who insult and complain about Trump? Simple solution: STAY IN YOUR OWN COUNTRY. Enjoy your pathetic royal weddings, liberal and sickening excuses for leaders and complete lack of knowledge of our wonderful country. Your opinions and insults ARE NOT WELCOME, at least not by me.
Bob Z.
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Well here is my 2 cents worth..... HOW THE HELL DID A MODEL AIRPLANE SITE ( FORUM ) BECOME THIS POLITICAL GARBAGE?????? ON THAT NOTE " ANYONE BUILD ANYTHING INTERESTING OVER THE WINTER " ???????
Almost forgot,
Someone who doesn’t think nazis are “very fine people”
I would say someone who didn’t avoid military service by getting a note from from one of his daddy’s tenants.
Someone that hasn’t cheated on all three of his wives.
Someone who hasn’t paid off a pornstar so she wouldn’t spill the beans about the affair he had with her while his wife was home with their infant child.
Someone who hasn’t bragged about his ability to sexually assault women with impunity.
Someone who hasn’t had multiple credible charges of sexual assault leveled against them.
Someone who hasn’t called not getting a sexually transmitted disease in the 80’s his “own personal Vietnam”
Someone who hasn’t referred to his own daughter as “a piece of ass”.
I suppose that would be a good start.
The death rate from the flu over a 10-year average is about 0.1%. Current estimates of the death rate for COVID-19 are about 2.3%. That suggests that the COVID is 23 times more lethal than the flu.
This is one article on the topic.
https://khn.org/news/fact-check-coronavirus-homeland-security-chief-flu-mortality-rate/
This is a lie. You are either being intellectually dishonest or you don't have a grasp of the English language. Your previous post about sexual assault is dishonest for the same reason. You have let your TDS get the best of you.
Yes actually, I do.
You can debate semantics on the Nazi question.I believe that the actual quote is "they let you do it."
Grabbing someone by the genitals is indeed sexual assault. Would you want it done to your mother? Probably not.
You can debate semantics on the Nazi question.
Grabbing someone by the genitals is indeed sexual assault. Would you want it done to your mother? Probably not.
Yes actually, I do.
When Jesus said, " Let he that is without sin cast the first stone", Jim stepped up and grabbed the first rock he could find.Actually I think he is a Troll.
One thing I noticed is that this thread has brought out a lot of comments from people that do not post very much and some that I have never heard of before (and Bob lets this type have handles instead of using their actual names which he insisted on when I joined I guess because he had known me for decades).
Then Jim comes back from the dead with a vengeance!
A very funny time indeed.
Chris...
If you think China has given anyone honest numbers for cases and deaths then I have some land around Chernobyl to sell you.
The figures quoted were WHO (World Health Organisation) figures and your own, so. . . . . . . .The WHO took China's word for those figures and apparently you do too. So......
People become brave when there is no threat of getting punched in the face...
Classic trumpism.
Threatening physical violence when you lack the ability to formulate a counter argument. Classic trumpism.Tell us again where the hate, intolerance and violence is coming from. Go ahead, looking forward to another round from you.
Tell us again where the hate, intolerance and violence is coming from. Go ahead, looking forward to another round from you.y1 y1 y1 y1
I would say someone who didn’t avoid military service by getting a note from from one of his daddy’s tenants.
Someone that hasn’t cheated on all three of his wives.
Someone who hasn’t paid off a pornstar so she wouldn’t spill the beans about the affair he had with her while his wife was home with their infant child.
Someone who hasn’t bragged about his ability to sexually assault women with impunity.
Someone who hasn’t had multiple credible charges of sexual assault leveled against them.
Someone who hasn’t called not getting a sexually transmitted disease in the 80’s his “own personal Vietnam”
Someone who hasn’t referred to his own daughter as “a piece of ass”.
I suppose that would be a good start.
Why Jimmy boy, you must be thinking of Bill Clinton. I think Jimbo may be a troll.
I think it should be up to us to stay home if we are sick and let the healthy ones keep working. But I guess the democrats are well on their way to creating a socialist country. R%%%%
FFS! Hey almost a doctor - How do you know you or they are healthy? Its generally accepted a person is infectious for 3-4 days before symptoms show (same with normal flu). That is the whole point of not mixing with people, keeping your distance etc - 'healthy' sick people will get better and with an immunity, vulnerable sick people will need treatment and hopefully will recover but if not will be contained away from the wider population and eventually without new hosts the virus can't spread and will phase out. The whole world is practicing the same general principles - are they all Democrats?Where was the part of Doc's comment that said we should not practice "social distancing"?
Do Not Treat Me List
Perhaps this idea has not occurred to the courageous conservatives among us.
Please inform your loved ones and legal representatives that you do no want to be treated for coronavirus infection under any circumstances. You prefer that the USA economy look good.
We are now number 1 in the world. Great work.
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Please post something asinine and stupid.
Well, take a poll of the states that are really struggling with this. Probably all have democrat governors. That's who should be leading the charge in each state instead of crying to the Feds from the very beginning. Tons more should have been done at the state and local levels, that is their responsibility. I just hope that they stripped out all the crap that didn't have anything to do with the crisis that Pelosi and Shummer were trying to tack on to these emergency funding bills. Time will tell on that, and they should have to answer for any ramifications of their actions. Trump isn't the only one trying to get re-elected in November. The people should remember this.As of Friday night the state of MN goes on a mandatory Stay at Home order. We have less than 400 confirmed cases, 2 deaths and some of the best medical facilities and medical tech companies on the planet but everyone realizes if you don't take aggressive preemptive measures, you'll quickly overwhelm the ability for critical care for those needing it.
We now have the most confirmed cases, bur well behind the curve on deaths. That is good work. You forgot to mention that
Type at you later,
Dan McEntee
You didn't expect anything logical, significant or non-political from Moritz, did you!?!
The great intellectual writes plays that consider the sexual attractiveness of furniture, for crying out loud ... Deep, meaningful questions of life us mere mortals wouldn't think of.
Dennis
I did not. It’s actually minor league TDS. Until he blames Trump for his debit card getting hacked he isn’t serious about his TDS.
You know, my uncle was a great person. He was at MIT. He taught at MIT for, I think, like a record number of years. He was a great supergenius. Dr. John Trump,” Trump said. “I like this stuff. I really get it. People are surprised that I understand it. Every one of these doctors said, ‘How do you know so much about this?’ Maybe I have a natural ability. Maybe I should have done that instead of running for president.”
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Do Not Treat Me List
Perhaps this idea has not occurred to the courageous conservatives among us.
Please inform your loved ones and legal representatives that you do no want to be treated for coronavirus infection under any circumstances. You prefer that the USA economy look good.
We are now number 1 in the world. Great work.
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As of Friday night the state of MN goes on a mandatory Stay at Home order. We have less than 400 confirmed cases, 2 deaths and some of the best medical facilities and medical tech companies on the planet but everyone realizes if you don't take aggressive preemptive measures, you'll quickly overwhelm the ability for critical care for those needing it.
Our governor is democrat, a 24 year member of the National Guard and the highest enlisted ranking member (CSM) to have served in Congress. His background is a high school teacher and football coach.
He is attracting considerable attention nation-wide because of his extraordinary leadership skills during this crisis. He knows better than to start a partisan argument.
I wish the rest of you would do that, too.
Called the pandemic a hoax.
Dennis,
You claim that President Trump called this pandemic a hoax. Please enlighten us when and where he made this claim. Just because it may have been reported on maybe CNN and/or MSNBC certainly does not make it so.
Keithg
Yes. Yes. Do Not Treat Me List. I thought I was repeating the advice of the paid for conservative propaganda machines. Advice for you and yours, not them and theirs. Let's see. Within nine days, the current time span of this thread, we have gone from this is a hoax to hey, we're number one in infections world wide. Guess you didn't notice that General Bone Spur is free and easy with the truth. In fact, never is about the truth, always about propaganda. Lied about number of tests available, ventilators available, prospectus for a vaccine, number of people infected, mortality of the disease, you name it. Called the pandemic a hoax. Four hundred cases? It only takes a few. This is the most infectious disease yet. Keep on barking, trained seals who sound like dogs.
Not to mention North Korea. They've reported ZERO cases, but most likely something was lost in the translation, and they meant that ZERO cases survived due to lead poisoning. The fact remains that if there is no testing for COVID19, there will be ZERO confirmed cases and ZERO confirmed fatalities. If we have cranked out enough test kits and test enough people suspected to have it, we WILL find more than anyplace else.Don't forget, Iran does not have ANY homosexuals! Remember that one?
Meanwhile, watch where you cough and sneeze! DO NOT do it in public, lest you get glared at by the masses of dumbasses. It's allergy season here. y1 Steve
Don't forget, Iran does not have ANY homosexuals! Remember that one?
What really puts a lie to Mr. moritz's accusation is the fact that the President locked China out of the US on January 31 to keep the Chinese/Wuhan virus out as long as possible. And this was during the Democrat attempt to impeach the President. And he was immediately branded a xenophobic racist by the mainstream media and the Democrat party.
You didn't expect anything logical, significant or non-political from Moritz, did you!?!
Dennis
- how about some complete sentences so we can understand your rants.? And, by the way, what is an orange inflatable?
Bob Z.
This is a technique they use when they are out of thoughts in an attempt to be witty by half.With Moritz it''s just more word salad. Perhaps it's an omage to Joe Biden's disastrous week of interviews. Birds of a feather........
This is a technique they use when they are out of thoughts in an attempt to be witty by half.
Hey Dan! There for a moment I thought...How the hell did William Ellis Williams get on stunt hangar? I guess there is "one in every crowd." S?P ;D
Norm
Well, they all use the same lame playbook based on OMB.
Well, I talked to a lot of people overhere in Europe, and we think that can be a solution, the more trumpies do aSee post93 again
'Surgical transition to the opposite sex', the better, most are old anyway, so not much more nagging in total.
Kind regards;
Max
Mike;
We are also tired of this crap.
Please stop and act normal.
New extra gun today?
Well I said something about this on another thread and I will repeat it here. How many remember the virous that killed opver a million people back in 1957 according WHO(World Health Organization)? S?P
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Remember it well. We were living in Brooklyn N.Y. at the time.
The pandemic is estimated to have killed one million people, according to the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). - 1957: Asian flu - The first cases of this variant of the flu, also a type A, were identified in February 1957 in China's southwestern province of Guizhou.
So you joined here to post about a foreign country's politics instead of Stunt models, Max? You have 26 fuckin' posts, dude.
Chris...
Over here in England, the govt. seems to be doing all the right things, introducing measures at the appropriate time etc., but the news media are letting us down! There's too much 'shock, horror!' journalism, and the prevailing mood (which they're trying to pass on to the general public) is: "PANIC! PANIC! We're all gonna die! AAAAAGH!!!".
and we think
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https://www.conservativereview.com/news/horowitz-coronavirus-begin-us-matters/?fbclid=IwAR3cmFF37P-Ldtsn4fjwHXZPijxd5JwDWjHuy_wLT1IHsyGKPY1VkeKJeD4
Andre
Guess it was doable before the hoax.
Damn arrogant Europeans, when they get sick they don’t go bankrupt.
Thanks for the link Aviojet.
Food for thought.
One thing I will say is that I am having difficulty harmonizing some of these types of essays with what is supposedly happening in NYC.
Unfortunately, the entire news industry is so untrustworthy it's very difficult to know what to trust, including the reports coming out of NYC.
Andre
Right, when they get sick, *we* go bankrupt - because their existence depends on US economics and defense.
Brett
..... a school bully beating up the little kids for their pocket money!I am not trying to defend Brett, he is more than capable of doing that himself but if your goal was to tick off just about every US body on this site, you have succeeded. We are the ones that take out the school bully.
Treating a world wide disaster as a PR opportunity has delayed USA response two months. How many American lives will that cost?
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Treating a world wide disaster as a PR opportunity has delayed USA response two months. How many American lives will that cost?
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Dennis I couldn’t agree more, for Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, Adam Schiff, Eric Swalwell, Jerry Nadler, and other Democrats, to attempt to delay the president and his response to the coronavirus, has been and is criminal. Thankfully we have a man with gonads in the White House. And he did Not delay but took action on January 31 to lock the nation down from China where the virus came from, and the Chinese lied, and knew three weeks before what they had. And then the president locks down the European Union from the United States approximately two weeks later. Dennis, where did he delay.? In spite of their lame attempt to delay him by their baseless impeachment he beat them at their own game.
Dennis, you’re going to have to do better than this then to give opinion without fact. I want specifics from you where the president was irresponsible. If you don’t have them then quietly go away.
Treating a world wide disaster as a PR opportunity has delayed USA response two months. How many American lives will that cost?
Hi Tom, grab a cup of coffee, a glass of beer or tea if you prefer, give this a gander and see what you think. This was written on March 15, things have changed more so. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/15/opinion/trump-coronavirus.html one reader left his comment.. ""The Trump administration could have begun to use a functioning test from the World Health Organization, but didn’t. It could have removed regulations that prevented private hospitals and labs from quickly developing their own tests, but didn’t."
Trump's failure to ramp up testing is the prime reason this virus has gotten a huge leg up on this country. I knew everything that David lists here, but it's horrifying to reread it all strung together,
Trump gave himself away when he expressed dismay over having the cruise ship with infected passengers off California dock on American shores. "I don't want my numbers to go up because of that ship," he selfishly proclaimed to the shock of any sentient person who instantly realized: "I could have been on that ship."
Trump cared more about keeping cases low because of how it "looked" for him, rather than people's health.
How crass."
Take your head out of your arse Brett! We do not rely on US products, no more than you do on ours! As much as you want to deny it - everyone is buying Chinese because they want cheap - and cheap sells no matter how patriotic you are.
Hi Tom, grab a cup of coffee, a glass of beer or tea if you prefer, give this a gander and see what you think. This was written on March 15, things have changed more so. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/15/opinion/trump-coronavirus.html one reader left his comment.. ""The Trump administration could have begun to use a functioning test from the World Health Organization, but didn’t. It could have removed regulations that prevented private hospitals and labs from quickly developing their own tests, but didn’t."
Trump's failure to ramp up testing is the prime reason this virus has gotten a huge leg up on this country. I knew everything that David lists here, but it's horrifying to reread it all strung together,
Trump gave himself away when he expressed dismay over having the cruise ship with infected passengers off California dock on American shores. "I don't want my numbers to go up because of that ship," he selfishly proclaimed to the shock of any sentient person who instantly realized: "I could have been on that ship."
Trump cared more about keeping cases low because of how it "looked" for him, rather than people's health.
How crass."
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/15/opinion/trump-coronavirus.html