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Offline Sam Laughery

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Broken Up Line----Not for the faint of heart
« on: June 02, 2007, 05:11:07 PM »
I was flying my Cardinal today that I built a few years, the one that I had just put a brand new OS LA 46 on last night when the up line broke about 2 feet out from the handle.  Naturally I was flying over the concrete launch strip at the time.  This is a set of lines that I had been using for a little less than a year.  I ran them out right before the flight and didn't feel anything although I had not inspected them closely.  The pics say it all.  Bob Z-is this a fixer upper??
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Re: Broken Up Line----Not for the weak of heart
« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2007, 06:44:51 PM »
I was flying my Cardinal today that I built a few years, the one that I had just put a brand new OS LA 46 on list night when the up line broke about 2 feet out from the handle.  Naturally I was flying over the concrete launch strip at the time.  This is a set of lines that I had been using for a little less than a year.  I ran them out right before the flight and didn't feel anything although I had not inspected them closely.  The pics say it all.  Bob Z-is this a fixer upper??
WOW! THAT WAS SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMEEEEE KIND OF IMPACT!
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Re: Broken Up Line----Not for the weak of heart
« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2007, 06:54:25 PM »
HERE IT WAS!!!! ??? ??? ??? ???

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Re: Broken Up Line----Not for the weak of heart
« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2007, 07:24:29 PM »
Sam,
Sorry about your loss.

Looks like the engine is OK?

Paul :-\
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Re: Broken Up Line----Not for the weak of heart
« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2007, 08:43:43 PM »
I'm thinking about it Ty.  This would be the second rebuild.  The first crash was interesting.  I was flying using my stooge, picked up the handle, checked to see if I had it upright, pulled on the stooge string and nothing happened.  I pulled several times and it still would not release so I decided to give it one last tug and when I did I pulled on the lines also.  The plane pivoted 90 degrees and of course the stooge released this time.  The plane came right at me went about 20-30 feet over my head and landed 30-40 feet beyond me in a heap.  I'm not sure this one can take another rebuild.

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Re: Broken Up Line----Not for the weak of heart
« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2007, 09:06:59 PM »
Interesting... it looks like the prop survived?  I would say that it is repairable.  My Peacemaker looked a bit like that on friday afternoon after the up line broke at the bellcrank.  I had it back togther in 2 hours and was flying it again yesterday.  It's amazing how well CA glue works.

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Re: Broken Up Line----Not for the weak of heart
« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2007, 09:12:54 PM »
OK, am I nuts but is the thing spawning wing panels as the photos are taken? All of a sudden there are 3 wing panels in the last photo.

My suggestion would be to bury it as there are strange happenings going on.
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Re: Broken Up Line----Not for the weak of heart
« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2007, 11:41:58 PM »
Way to go Peter although I'm not qualified to comment on the nuts part.  I didn't think anyone would ever notice.  I threw in a wing panel from an old Nobler for the last pic.  It just happened to be the same colors.  You win the booby prize.  Unfortunately I gave away my last booby yesterday

Sam.
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Re: Broken Up Line----Not for the faint of heart
« Reply #8 on: June 03, 2007, 12:20:39 AM »
Sam...we need to work on the pictures. They should be about 450 to 650 pixels wide. I think Sparky has the upper limit of 1000kb, but 50 to 100kb would be very easy to do. IrfanView works real well, and it's free. I'm willing to help, if you're using a PC. I don't speak MacIntosh.  mw~ Steve
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Re: Broken Up Line----Not for the faint of heart
« Reply #9 on: June 03, 2007, 07:22:41 AM »
Is this better?

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Re: Broken Up Line----Not for the faint of heart
« Reply #10 on: June 03, 2007, 07:43:55 AM »
Mucho better picture.  That plane is begging to be put back together, unless it is like my Olympic was.  The stab had broken ribs, the stress cracks in the fuse ran almost full length and the wing center section was a shambles.  Myself I hardly ever rebuild a plane.  I let someone else do it if they want it.  DOC Holliday
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Re: Broken Up Line----Not for the faint of heart
« Reply #11 on: June 05, 2007, 05:40:53 AM »
Hi, Sam - I would go ahead and fix it - check out my article in pampa stunt news.
Or, I can send you the photos and the article.

It really isn't all that much of a chore.

Bob Z.

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Re: Broken Up Line----Not for the faint of heart
« Reply #12 on: June 05, 2007, 10:58:41 AM »
Hi, Sam - I would go ahead and fix it - check out my article in pampa stunt news.
Or, I can send you the photos and the article.

It really isn't all that much of a chore.

Bob Z.
Hey Bob....I was never very good with jig saw puzzzzeleee's!! n~ I only hope our Sammy's puzzels skills are better honed than mine. I had a beloved old Nobler that I dorkolddo'd into the ground and I managed successfully to put all the pieces (uhh? Most of them) back together. The model looked pretty good and even took a 1st place win afterwards with it...
BUT!! A HUGE BUTT! With in a month of flying...little stress cracks started appearing all over that plane in the darnest places until finally the entire tail section parted ways.....
After careful crash investigation----NOT ONE NEW GLUE JOINT FAILED!!!  It was those little un noticed hairline cracks that wasn't visible during the rebuild process...THAT FINALLY "REKITTED IT FOR THE LAST TIME!"
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Re: Broken Up Line----Not for the faint of heart
« Reply #13 on: June 05, 2007, 12:03:47 PM »
You have got to learn how to crash thes with a little more smack. I broke an up line on my Rebel in the sixties and there was nothing left to put togather. the plane only wieghed 39 ounces. and crashed like it wieghed 100 lb.s. I those days we soldered our lines, big mistake. sorry this happened but we all know our planes are not going to last forever. that is why each tme we try to build them better. I also it is better to put them away and then return to repair them latter. There are worse senareos like catching them on fire. that really does a job on your mind.

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Re: Broken Up Line----Not for the faint of heart
« Reply #14 on: June 05, 2007, 06:55:19 PM »
There are worse senareos like catching them on fire. that really does a job on your mind.

Leo...
Over the years.... guess we have seen more than our share of prime-jobs on those old beloved Fox 35's bring about!!!"FIRE IN THE HOLE!"

Especially after  the first flip of the prop resulting in that INFAMOUS BELCH OF FLAME!!!

Do you remember that contest that was held in NE Tacoma on that grass field when  Tim Dunlops beautiful metallic Blue side mounted McCoy 40 powered modified Nobler, suddenly belched flame..(which we didn't see at first...because Looking down..Tim didn't know that he had that FIRE IN THE HOLE... until the grass around that airplane started burning...and his cowling started to blister.
LUCKY for Tim... (BEING A TRAINED FIRE-FIGHTER) had  a wiping rag next to his model...and quickly put out the flames on the ground and on the model....
Again, who was it that had a cowling fire going...after take off and level flights at the old Albany Ore. contest???

 After the inside loops the fire finally burned out...he bravely continued to finish the pattern.   VD~ :X n~
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Re: Broken Up Line----Not for the faint of heart
« Reply #15 on: June 05, 2007, 11:54:31 PM »
Yup, I remember Tims Noblers and him trying to fly them 10 mph. Fire foxes that were the dragons of the winter. In Montana in the winter if you top prined them at 32 degrees they woud throw a flame a foot long. Tim did a lot better after he gave up the idea of flying slooooow moooootion. Then the Supertigre 46 was the best motor of the day for him. He was one of the first to use them. Boy those were the days. tight jeans an cigerettes rooled up in the sleeve of your t-shirt. Man we were somebody. mw~

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Re: Broken Up Line----Not for the faint of heart
« Reply #16 on: June 06, 2007, 07:49:03 AM »
Hey Bob....I was never very good with jig saw puzzzzeleee's!! n~ I only hope our Sammy's puzzels skills are better honed than mine. I had a beloved old Nobler that I dorkolddo'd into the ground and I managed successfully to put all the pieces (uhh? Most of them) back together. The model looked pretty good and even took a 1st place win afterwards with it...
BUT!! A HUGE BUTT! With in a month of flying...little stress cracks started appearing all over that plane in the darnest places until finally the entire tail section parted ways.....
After careful crash investigation----NOT ONE NEW GLUE JOINT FAILED!!!  It was those little un noticed hairline cracks that wasn't visible during the rebuild process...THAT FINALLY "REKITTED IT FOR THE LAST TIME!"


Ok Schultzie,  who is the good looking lady holding that plain looking old Nobler?   We keep forgetting the ladies that support our fun things we do.  DOC Holliday
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Re: Broken Up Line----Not for the faint of heart
« Reply #17 on: June 06, 2007, 01:27:14 PM »
Ok Schultzie,  who is the good looking lady holding that plain looking old Nobler?   We keep forgetting the ladies that support our fun things we do.  DOC Holliday

John....
The young lady was with a friend of Chris Sackett and for certain was far and away more interested in Chris Sackett than either Ben or me....
just the same I walked over and asked if she would hold our models above her head while we took a couple of pictures.
I think Ben sealed the deal...saying that our models were going to be featured in the VanCouver news paper the next day and "they" (we) needed some glamour shots?
Hummm? Pretty "lame-line" huh?
I was single in those days...however Ben's wife had a lot of questions for me to answer when I got that roll of Kodachrome 10 processed from our 2 day 1965 Canadian Internats trip. She was at least savy enough to send Ben's young son Benny ( now all grown up with a family of his own)with us to keep our eyes out of trouble.  mw~LL~
Check the photos....We arrived at the Canada flying site waaaaaay early in the morn. and about got kicked out of the Park by the 'Roger Ranger' who hadn't been informed about the event to follow later that day. As you can see the stadium is quite empty that was FILLED to standing room only, later that day. Gee, those VanCouver folks...gotta get a life if that was the only entertainment in town.
The crowd was thrilled when (little Benny and his Dad flew together in the same circle later that afternoon. That big Growling Shark 45 of his father Ben...really drowned out that little ready to fly half A powered model of Benny's.
After little Benny's engine ran out he sat there at the circle center and cheered his Daddy on and that really got the crowd going that day.
Nuttin like kids and dogs...to thrill a crowd. Benny became quite a good stunt flyer...that is...until he became a teen and discovered Girls were a lot more fun.  %^@
Ahh..to the memories of our trips to Canada. The VanCouver Gas Model Club always were the greatest host's with the most. GADS! I LOVED THEIR MOLDY-MOLSON BEEEEEEER!
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