BOM Yes? BOM No? Last Poll

[RC Storick]

The new pole is a 2 quistion poll

To Stop the Skew and bickering the new poll is yes or no. Please vote your modeling depends on it.

[Bradley Walker]

Hey, look at that!!!

Robert, I wish you would stop being so dramatic.  They have rules cycles every two years.  It will come up again, and again, and again, and again. 

[Louis Rankin]

One question, two outcomes, that is much better than 3 questions and five outcomes!

[RC Storick]

You people think it has no bearing here on the internet. Well all the clpa rules people frequent this board. and if your vote is seen here maybe then they will vote accordingly.

[frank carlisle]

SHOOT!! I just voted and went back to vote again but somehow the machine knew I'd already cast my vote!!

[Dennis Vander Kuur]

Frank,
Are you from Chicago (where they vote early and often)?
DennisV

[steven yampolsky]

Is there a way to undo a vote? I hit the wrong choice

[RC Storick]

No sorry not now.

[frank carlisle]

Frank,
Are you from Chicago (where they vote early and often)?
DennisV

Detroit actually but we like to vote just as much as Chicagoans.

[Chuck Feldman]

Florida here.

We don't know how to vote. LOL

[Louis Rankin]

Statistical evaluation of the “STUNT HANGAR BOM POLL” reveals the following:

126 total votes.  69 (54.76%) vote to keep BOM.  57 (45.24%) vote to eliminate.

The statistical margin of error for any poll is 0.05, meaning that any margin of 0.05 or below is considered a statistical tie.  The statistical margin for this poll is 0.0952.  That is 0.0452 above the margin of error.  The percentage above the margin of error represents the statistical margin of the majority.

Conclusion:  Out of the 126 voters, those who favor keeping the BOM are in the majority by a margin of 0.0452.  Not a landslide; however, it is a statistical majority.

No need to slam or make negative comments.  These are the stats of the results of the 126 voters voting in the poll.

If you have any questions or don’t understand the statistical evaluation, please send me a PM.

[catdaddy]

Statistical evaluation of the “STUNT HANGAR BOM POLL” reveals the following:

126 total votes.  69 (54.76%) vote to keep BOM.  57 (45.24%) vote to eliminate.

The statistical margin of error for any poll is 0.05, meaning that any margin of 0.05 or below is considered a statistical tie.  The statistical margin for this poll is 0.0952.  That is 0.0452 above the margin of error.  The percentage above the margin of error represents the statistical margin of the majority.

Conclusion:  Out of the 126 voters, those who favor keeping the BOM are in the majority by a margin of 0.0452.  Not a landslide; however, it is a statistical majority.

No need to slam or make negative comments.  These are the stats of the results of the 126 voters voting in the poll.

If you have any questions or don’t understand the statistical evaluation, please send me a PM.

Louis
Good job, but shouldn't you have waited until the number of votes at least matched the number in the first poll? Currently we have 126 total compared to I believe around 165 total in the first poll. Also there were more no votes in the first poll compared to this one. Where did they go?

[Louis Rankin]

According to the voting directions, polling closed at 1:37 PM today.  Yes, not as many voted in this poll as the last one.  Remember, a poll is only a representation of those who choose to vote.  It does not necessarily represent the opinion of the total majority of those who build and fly C/L models nationwide.  I imagine everyone is loosing interest in the polls and are busy building their winter projects.

[Ron King]

I imagine everyone is loosing interest in the polls and are busy building their winter projects.

Or they are busy BUYING their 2008 planes. 

Sorry Louis, I just couldn't resist. 

Take care,

Ron

[steven yampolsky]

Conclusion:  Out of the 126 voters, those who favor keeping the BOM are in the majority by a margin of 0.0452.  Not a landslide; however, it is a statistical majority.

here's two more conclusions just for kicks:

1) pro-BOM folk prefer to visit this forum more than anti-BOM folk.
2) pro-BOM folk care more about the issue than anti-BOM folk.

I guess I fail to see the need for making conclusions. Making the conclusion sound "scientific" is just PR, especially with these kinds of numbers. 126 votes is not even 10% of this forum's memership(1352)! Now, that's a number large enough to make conclusions out of! 9 out of 10 forum members DON'T CARE about the issue!

[Louis Rankin]

Or they are busy BUYING their 2008 planes. 

Sorry Louis, I just couldn't resist. 

Take care,

Ron

Yes, or busy buying their 2008 planes.  I have it all covered for this winter.  I am building a Colossus kit, a Tom Morris Quick Build (ARC), and a scratch built Ringmaster 576.  Well, almost scratch, I did have Dee Rice make me some leading edges for the Ring576.  All BOM legal!

[RC Storick]

here's two more conclusions just for kicks:

1) pro-BOM folk prefer to visit this forum more than anti-BOM folk.
2) pro-BOM folk care more about the issue than anti-BOM folk.

I guess I fail to see the need for making conclusions. Making the conclusion sound "scientific" is just PR, especially with these kinds of numbers. 126 votes is not even 10% of this forum's memership(1352)! Now, that's a number large enough to make conclusions out of! 9 out of 10 forum members DON'T CARE about the issue!

You will find the same numbes elections for the USA. You get what you get if you don't vote!

[RC Storick]

Statistical evaluation of the “STUNT HANGAR BOM POLL” reveals the following:

126 total votes.  69 (54.76%) vote to keep BOM.  57 (45.24%) vote to eliminate.

The statistical margin of error for any poll is 0.05, meaning that any margin of 0.05 or below is considered a statistical tie.  The statistical margin for this poll is 0.0952.  That is 0.0452 above the margin of error.  The percentage above the margin of error represents the statistical margin of the majority.

Conclusion:  Out of the 126 voters, those who favor keeping the BOM are in the majority by a margin of 0.0452.  Not a landslide; however, it is a statistical majority.

No need to slam or make negative comments.  These are the stats of the results of the 126 voters voting in the poll.

If you have any questions or don’t understand the statistical evaluation, please send me a PM.

Why the commintary? Everyone can see for them selfs the numbers?

[Randy Powell]

I would point out that with this low a vote total, statistical analysis becomes an exercise in futility. There isn't a statistically significant number of people participating. Just the staight numbers are enough without much analysis.

There probably should have been a third choice: Don't care.

This has been such a devisive issue that I suspect "don't care" would be the winner. But that's what folks do that know the majority is against them. They make the entire question so unpleasant that people become apathetic.

[frank carlisle]

You know what?
BOM or no BOM, I'm going to keep building my own planes.

As I see it the BOM rule makes no allowances for ARFs and ARCs. I could live with dropping the BOM rule so long as the model still garnered appearance points. ARFs and ARCS should be on the low end of the scale. Perhaps with caps on how many points they are allowed.
A premium should be allotted to kit, plan and scratch built models so as to promote and continue the art of building.

[RC Storick]

You know what?
BOM or no BOM, I'm going to keep building my own planes.

As I see it the BOM rule makes no allowances for ARFs and ARCs. I could live with dropping the BOM rule so long as the model still garnered appearance points. ARFs and ARCS should be on the low end of the scale. Perhaps with caps on how many points they are allowed.
A premium should be allotted to kit, plan and scratch built models so as to promote and continue the art of building.

Frank thats what the wole BOM debate is about. To TAKE AWAY APPEARANCE POINTS THAT YOU EARNED!

[frank carlisle]

Frank thats what the wole BOM debate is about. To TAKE AWAY APPEARANCE POINTS THAT YOU EARNED!

That is exactly why I voted to KEEP the BOM.
Plus taking away appearance points for building is equal to giving up to 20 extra points to any yahoo that's too lazy to build and buys an ARF instead.

[steven yampolsky]

The 2004 elections in the US brought out more than 58% of the voting age population to poll stations, not 10%.

[Randy Powell]

So, less than 2/3 voted. In fact, not very much over half of the registered voters. And that was considered good. The previous election, it was closer to 45%.