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best tool for cutting lead out wire
« on: October 07, 2020, 09:58:27 AM »
about to lose my religion over trying to get a clean cut on this lead out wire.  who makes the best cutter.

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Re: best tool for cutting lead out wire
« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2020, 10:19:17 AM »
about to lose my religion over trying to get a clean cut on this lead out wire.  who makes the best cutter.
Dremel with a cut off wheel.
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Re: best tool for cutting lead out wire
« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2020, 10:29:10 AM »
since I bought this crimper, all my issues with cutting and line termination are solved.  A little pricey but in my mind worth it.  No more wrapping or sketchy smash style crimping.  Offset cutters on the side make clean cuts

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Re: best tool for cutting lead out wire
« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2020, 10:51:58 AM »
Dremel with a cut off wheel.


I'll second that!

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Re: best tool for cutting lead out wire
« Reply #4 on: October 07, 2020, 10:54:46 AM »
I just use a pair of dikes to cut the wire. I don't use crimps. I use copper wire to wrap them. Guess I'm old school.
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Re: best tool for cutting lead out wire
« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2020, 11:35:32 AM »
Are we talking cable or music wire?

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Re: best tool for cutting lead out wire
« Reply #7 on: October 07, 2020, 11:48:43 AM »
I just use a Dremel Dangerous Disk, for both cable and solid music wire. 

Music wire and cable are both excellent tools for chewing up cutter blades, and I'm too much of a cheap skate to get the really good hand tools that can cut hard wire without getting chewed up themselves.
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Re: best tool for cutting lead out wire
« Reply #8 on: October 07, 2020, 12:10:16 PM »
I've got large and small side cutters that I've had for so long I can'r remember where I got them.  Maybe it was Jim's Hardware that used to be on State avenue in KCK.  Any thing bigger than 3/32 music wire I use the Dremel cut off wheel. D>K
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Re: best tool for cutting lead out wire
« Reply #9 on: October 07, 2020, 12:49:55 PM »
Dremel with a cut off wheel.

excellent choice...as I don't have to buy anything new!

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Re: best tool for cutting lead out wire
« Reply #10 on: October 07, 2020, 01:47:30 PM »
The best is the Knipex 9561150 bowdencable cutting tool, available at Amazon.
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Re: best tool for cutting lead out wire
« Reply #11 on: October 07, 2020, 03:44:43 PM »
Sharp chisel, steel block and a hammer.  Quick and easy.
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Re: best tool for cutting lead out wire
« Reply #12 on: October 07, 2020, 03:54:03 PM »
  A pair of American made dikes in good condition ..  nothing fancy.
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Re: best tool for cutting lead out wire
« Reply #13 on: October 07, 2020, 04:35:00 PM »
about to lose my religion over trying to get a clean cut on this lead out wire.  who makes the best cutter.
Drop of CA to keep it from fraying then a thin Dremmel cutoff blade.  If you have some really professional dikes they are OK too.  Wire is hard and will destroy the cheap ones.

Sorry, I have been informed that dikes is no longer an acceptable name for dikes.  They are all officially "Side Cutters".

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Re: best tool for cutting lead out wire
« Reply #14 on: October 07, 2020, 05:06:49 PM »
dremel didn't work for me but then again wasn't pulling it taught. finally went up the street to the little high end bicycle store and got these. work like a charm. trick is to cut fast not slow. they work perfectly. 

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Re: best tool for cutting lead out wire
« Reply #15 on: October 07, 2020, 05:48:41 PM »
   One of the tools every ne should have in there tool box or work shop is a pair of 10 or 11 inch lineman pliers. A pair made by Klien will cut 1/16" usually with now problem, and I can bend a Z bend with a pair of these tighter that any Z bend special tool.  Just don't buy a tool that is too small and abuse it.
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Re: best tool for cutting lead out wire
« Reply #16 on: October 07, 2020, 06:09:20 PM »
Thanks for the tip on the z Bend...yeah the Z bend pliers I bought$ were a hunk of junk...made the bend too small for a Sig bellcrank and I end up having to make the bend with a vise and small mallet

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Re: best tool for cutting lead out wire
« Reply #17 on: October 07, 2020, 06:17:21 PM »
Sharp chisel, steel block and a hammer.  Quick and easy.

Yea, a Cold Chisel . Like a pematic hammer , but smaller . S?P ( could nick a wood chisel blade ) . As above is clean & quick .

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Re: best tool for cutting lead out wire
« Reply #18 on: October 08, 2020, 05:45:33 AM »
I use a Tin Snip, works great with a clean cut.

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Re: best tool for cutting lead out wire
« Reply #19 on: October 08, 2020, 04:21:22 PM »
latest discovery...make sure push rod doesn't run so low it scrapes against lead out wire.  HB~>

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Re: best tool for cutting lead out wire
« Reply #20 on: October 09, 2020, 08:01:33 AM »
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 A good share pair of Dikes. Clean cut every time.

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Re: best tool for cutting lead out wire
« Reply #21 on: October 09, 2020, 11:29:41 AM »
I’m kind of surprised, no one has mentioned the Zuron wire shear. Cuts much cleaner than diagonal pliers, doesn’t squash the cable and leaves a square cut on solid wire. It’s a smaller version of the cable cutter you see in bike shops. It’s cheap enough to leave a pair in the box with the bulk wire. See: https://www.amazon.com/Xuron-2193-Wire-Shear/dp/B000IBQECE/ref=sr_1_4?crid=1MF2W787RI39F&dchild=1&keywords=xuron+cutter+pliers&qid=1602263916&sprefix=Xuron+cutter%2Caps%2C208&sr=8-4

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Re: best tool for cutting lead out wire
« Reply #22 on: October 09, 2020, 01:24:15 PM »
Um...what's wrong with a pair of side cutters?  Is this a real question?

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Re: best tool for cutting lead out wire
« Reply #23 on: October 09, 2020, 01:35:47 PM »
Um...what's wrong with a pair of side cutters?  Is this a real question?
Side cutters can separate the windings too easily, especially if they are dull.  So, I use side cutters that are sharp!

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Re: best tool for cutting lead out wire
« Reply #24 on: October 09, 2020, 02:55:29 PM »
Go to:  https://www.savacable.com/cable-cutter-light-duty

I've had mine for thirty years.
As far as I'm concerned, it's the best out there.
Not cheap.
SAVA also sells all types of cables.

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Re: best tool for cutting lead out wire
« Reply #25 on: October 09, 2020, 06:50:05 PM »
My wife’s sewing scissors worked well ‘till I got caught......
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Re: best tool for cutting lead out wire
« Reply #26 on: October 09, 2020, 08:54:15 PM »
Go to:  https://www.savacable.com/cable-cutter-light-duty

I've had mine for thirty years.
As far as I'm concerned, it's the best out there.
Not cheap.
SAVA also sells all types of cables.

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I have to 2nd this.
I have also had a pair for 30 years.
You can easily cut much larger cable than we use with one hand. I bought the cutters back when I was cutting seals off of railroad tanker cars. They were about 3/16 inch thick.
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Re: best tool for cutting lead out wire
« Reply #27 on: October 10, 2020, 06:51:23 AM »
We want a device that cuts through the cable as opposed to crushing through it.

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Re: best tool for cutting lead out wire
« Reply #28 on: October 10, 2020, 09:06:48 AM »
Steve - that's EXACTLY what the SAVA product does.

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Re: best tool for cutting lead out wire
« Reply #29 on: October 10, 2020, 02:22:56 PM »
Bob,

That's why I use a good grade aviation tin snip. It cuts or shears through the strands leaving a clean cut.

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Re: best tool for cutting lead out wire
« Reply #30 on: October 12, 2020, 09:12:45 AM »
Um...what's wrong with a pair of side cutters?  Is this a real question?

I agree. A good quality side cutters works just fine, especially if you don't ruin it on music wire.  Top-of-the-Line from a big box store or the upper price range in smaller hardware stores.  It takes about 3 seconds to twist the end of cable in a slip joint pliers if the flattened end offends you.
There is also a popular eletrician's pliers that can cut, crimp, and strip insulation on every size wire.  Even the cheap ones are decently hardened.
If you're into crimped sleeves they work great, but you have to grind a 1/16in. crimp slot below(towards the hand grip).  It doesn't have to be perfectly round or centered.  Just rotate the crimp 3-4 times while squishing it and it will form an almost perfect, factory style crimp.

I always use stainless steel twisted wire for leadouts(0.021 for smaller planes, 0.027 for anything over 32oz.)  The electricians pliers can handle over 0.027in cable.  To form a leadout mark where you want the end of the loop with a marker.  Put the wire through the crimp with lots of slack.  The crimp should be able to take 3 strands of cable.  They come in different sizes to allow for this.
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Bend the loop where it's marked by bending it around 3/32 or so music wire.  Feed the free end back through the crimp.  position the crimp for the size loop(around 1/2 inch usually is fine) you want and bend the free end 90deg.  Then make some slack in the standing end by pushing it through the crip and working the bend an inch or so clear of the crimp.  Trim the free end to 3/8in. or so.  Bend it over tight so the free end can slide into the crimp.  Using pliers and fingers  get the short free end bent over and into the crimp.

Pull the standing cable back so the end of the loop is in the right position. Put the crimp in the crimping slot you ground.  Squeeze it moderately  at least three time around the crimp, then repeat with more pressure.  Do three squeezes around the crimp as hard as you can.

The loop is done.  It is nearly impossible the pull this arrangement apart.  The multiple bends on the loop and the crimped end of the wire tend to lock up on the crimp if anything does slip.

You can buy crimping plyers that are designed to crimp like this, primarily for electricians, but they work just fine.  They do cost  more though, but they will do the final crimp very professionally in one squeeze.
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Re: best tool for cutting lead out wire
« Reply #31 on: October 12, 2020, 04:49:56 PM »
I use large tin snips on cable and a dermal on music wire ...


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