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a Flight on the Trivial Pursuit
« on: June 14, 2011, 12:18:14 PM »
I uploaded the 3rd flight of the Trivial Pursuit onto Youtube so you all can see.  Hope you like it!

Flight #4 is uploading as we speak.



I had to record the DVD with my digital camera to get it onto the computer.  The quality isn't that great but it definitely gives you an idea!  H^^
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Re: a Flight on the Trivial Pursuit
« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2011, 12:21:10 PM »
And here is flight #4!



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Re: a Flight on the Trivial Pursuit
« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2011, 12:48:32 PM »
Lookin Good Matt. Keep practicing, the Nats is close! ;D

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Re: a Flight on the Trivial Pursuit
« Reply #3 on: June 14, 2011, 01:10:54 PM »
Lookin Good Matt. Keep practicing, the Nats is close! ;D

17 Days to be exact!!!!!  We leave July 2nd!!!  We also sent in our registration yesterday!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D
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Re: a Flight on the Trivial Pursuit
« Reply #4 on: June 14, 2011, 01:46:50 PM »
SHUT THE FRONT DOOR!, you make it look easy. I'm not going to wish you luck because I think the compatition will need it.  LL~ LL~--LOUIE H^^ D>K

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Re: a Flight on the Trivial Pursuit
« Reply #5 on: June 14, 2011, 02:02:14 PM »
SHUT THE FRONT DOOR!, you make it look easy. I'm not going to wish you luck because I think the compatition will need it.  LL~ LL~--LOUIE H^^ D>K

Thanks Louie!  This was only the 3rd and 4th flights.  I'm sure I'll be a lot better once I get the 50th flight on it!! #^ #^

And I'm going to need a lot of luck, I want to make the top 15 in advanced, and give Ryan Young a run for his money in Senior!
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Re: a Flight on the Trivial Pursuit
« Reply #6 on: June 14, 2011, 02:58:20 PM »
So, do you have a comment on what you think?
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Re: a Flight on the Trivial Pursuit
« Reply #7 on: June 14, 2011, 03:12:29 PM »
Matt,
You have come a long way. You will be very competitive at the Nats. You are bringing back the days when Juniors and Seniors could beat the big guys!
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Re: a Flight on the Trivial Pursuit
« Reply #8 on: June 14, 2011, 03:23:01 PM »
Very nice, Matt, you are lucky to have a Grandfather that takes an interest in your hobby, or is it vice-versa? The terrain looks like Muncie, flat! The Nats is a very unique experience, you are in for a treat. y1

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Re: a Flight on the Trivial Pursuit
« Reply #9 on: June 14, 2011, 03:28:25 PM »
So, do you have a comment on what you think?

I think that I fly that airplane darn well and it still being BRAND NEW!  I'm sidelined for a few days with this plane because somehow the header bolts vibrated there way loose, and I lost one of them, so we ordered a pack of 100 for 8 bucks on the internet.  Once I get them, and put them in the engine (yes we made sure that we ordered 5-40s and the correct length).

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Re: a Flight on the Trivial Pursuit
« Reply #10 on: June 14, 2011, 03:30:02 PM »
Matt,
You have come a long way. You will very competitive at the Nats. You are bringing back the days when Juniors and Seniors could beat the big guys!

Thanks Tom!

I remember when I could barely do a loop, let alone two at the same time, and they also looked like reverse figure 9s. It's kind of amazing that was only 5 years ago, and now I'm flying airplanes with piped engines, and an expert!
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Re: a Flight on the Trivial Pursuit
« Reply #11 on: June 14, 2011, 03:34:00 PM »
Very nice, Matt, you are lucky to have a Grandfather that takes an interest in your hobby, or is it vice-versa? The terrain looks like Muncie, flat! The Nats is a very unique experience, you are in for a treat. y1

My grandfather has been flying stunt since the 50s.  He got out of it for a while, then got back into it again in the 60s (he spent a lot of time around Champione and Gene Schaffer during that period of time).  He dropped out again in the 70s and got back into it once again around 1990.  he's been flying ever since and doesn't intend to quit.

He went to Muncie back in 1996 for the NATS and came in 18th in advanced, hopefully he'll either equal that or be better than that 18th spot.  I've been wanting to go to the NATS ever since I started flying stunt, and now it's finally coming to fruition!!!  y1
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Re: a Flight on the Trivial Pursuit
« Reply #12 on: June 15, 2011, 04:50:00 AM »
My grandfather has been flying stunt since the 50s.  He got out of it for a while, then got back into it again in the 60s (he spent a lot of time around Champione and Gene Schaffer during that period of time).  He dropped out again in the 70s and got back into it once again around 1990.  he's been flying ever since and doesn't intend to quit.

He went to Muncie back in 1996 for the NATS and came in 18th in advanced, hopefully he'll either equal that or be better than that 18th spot.  I've been wanting to go to the NATS ever since I started flying stunt, and now it's finally coming to fruition!!!  y1

I have had some great times at the Nats, I am sure you will too. As I leave Muncie every year I am already thinking about the next trip back.

There are so many attractions. The very unhealthy food at the 12th street cafe, The go cart track, The beer bush (your not old enough for the beer but the conversation is fun), and the Texas Road House!!!!!!! Just to name a few........  Oh yea, we fly planes there too.

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Re: a Flight on the Trivial Pursuit
« Reply #13 on: June 15, 2011, 06:45:49 AM »

Good luck to you Matt.  Keep putting in those practice flights before you leave.  I'm sure you will exceed your own expectations.

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Re: a Flight on the Trivial Pursuit
« Reply #14 on: June 15, 2011, 07:59:55 AM »
I have had some great times at the Nats, I am sure you will too. As I leave Muncie every year I am already thinking about the next trip back.

There are so many attractions. The very unhealthy food at the 12th street cafe, The go cart track, The beer bush (your not old enough for the beer but the conversation is fun), and the Texas Road House!!!!!!! Just to name a few........  Oh yea, we fly planes there too.

Derek

There's a Go-Kart track!?!?!?!?!?!?!  I'm also planning on bringing my stunt kite with me for the inevitable winds at Muncie, so if it's so windy nobody's flying, I'll bring that out, should be fun to try out!

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Re: a Flight on the Trivial Pursuit
« Reply #15 on: June 15, 2011, 08:17:28 AM »
Have not been at the NATS for two years now, but the Boy Scouts used to have a tent to serve breakfast and lunch.  For me it beat sitting in a restaurant waiting for the food or service.  Depending on where you stay there is always something going.  Yes do take in the Texas Roadkill. LL~ LL~
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Re: a Flight on the Trivial Pursuit
« Reply #16 on: June 15, 2011, 08:19:28 AM »
Whatever you do, DO NOT eat at one of the many Pizza King joints around.  Worst pizza on earth!  :X
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Re: a Flight on the Trivial Pursuit
« Reply #17 on: June 15, 2011, 08:22:25 AM »
I forgot about the guy with the cart that sells hot dogs and sausages.  Polish sausage with lots of sourkraut. H^^
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Re: a Flight on the Trivial Pursuit
« Reply #18 on: June 15, 2011, 08:44:38 AM »
I have had some great times at the Nats, I am sure you will too. As I leave Muncie every year I am already thinking about the next trip back.

There are so many attractions. The very unhealthy food at the 12th street cafe, The go cart track, The beer bush (your not old enough for the beer but the conversation is fun), and the Texas Road House!!!!!!! Just to name a few........  Oh yea, we fly planes there too.

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Chirrrrp......Chirrrrp......Chirrrrp....ribit.......chirrrrp

1. Pizza outside of Chicago, Boston or New York, is a facsimile in name only, same goes for bagels
2. Orlando has attractions, Munice Indiana has the AMA, a Museum of Anthropology, the AMA, farm land, the AMA, more farm land, Oh did I mention the ............. AMA?
3. Beer? as a attraction? pssssssst....... let you know a leettle secret....... you can get it at any 7-11....... don't tell a soul. Shame on you corrupting the morals of a minor!
4. Pickup Trucks, one thing Indiana and Minnasota seem to have a whole ton of, they seem to congregate at said road houses. Oh and can't forget the tractor pulls.
5. If surveryed people between the ages of 15 and 25 would say that they go somewhere else, anywhere else, to have fun. The rest hang out at the local mall.

Note: This was written tounge in cheek..........almost :)

Cow tipping anyone?
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Re: a Flight on the Trivial Pursuit
« Reply #19 on: June 15, 2011, 08:45:56 AM »
Whatever you do, DO NOT eat at one of the many Pizza King joints around.  Worst pizza on earth!  :X

That was just inscribed into my brain!!!  And I'll definitely take your word for it, there's nothing worse than a bad pizza!
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Re: a Flight on the Trivial Pursuit
« Reply #20 on: June 15, 2011, 10:45:21 AM »
That was just inscribed into my brain!!!  And I'll definitely take your word for it, there's nothing worse than a bad pizza!

I agree with Steve, The pizza king is terrible. However, my dad loves it and looks forward to going there every year...........

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P.S. Yes there is a go cart track. You will have to join the Moon brothers and i for some laps around the track!

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Re: a Flight on the Trivial Pursuit
« Reply #21 on: June 15, 2011, 10:55:36 AM »
Chirrrrp......Chirrrrp......Chirrrrp....ribit.......chirrrrp

1. Pizza outside of Chicago, Boston or New York, is a facsimile in name only, same goes for bagels
2. Orlando has attractions, Munice Indiana has the AMA, a Museum of Anthropology, the AMA, farm land, the AMA, more farm land, Oh did I mention the ............. AMA?
3. Beer? as a attraction? pssssssst....... let you know a leettle secret....... you can get it at any 7-11....... don't tell a soul. Shame on you corrupting the morals of a minor!
4. Pickup Trucks, one thing Indiana and Minnasota seem to have a whole ton of, they seem to congregate at said road houses. Oh and can't forget the tractor pulls.
5. If surveryed people between the ages of 15 and 25 would say that they go somewhere else, anywhere else, to have fun. The rest hang out at the local mall.

Note: This was written tounge in cheek..........almost :)

Cow tipping anyone?

Beer is an attraction, at least in Muncie it is!  ;D

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Re: a Flight on the Trivial Pursuit
« Reply #22 on: June 15, 2011, 11:49:58 AM »
Beer is an attraction wherever one happens to be! n~

Sometimes though, it makes it hard to fly well the next day(!)
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Re: a Flight on the Trivial Pursuit
« Reply #23 on: June 15, 2011, 01:07:02 PM »
Hi,
Nice flight – can you give us some details about your pipe settings (pipe length, prop, RPMs etc.) I understand you are using RO JETT 76.
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Re: a Flight on the Trivial Pursuit
« Reply #24 on: June 15, 2011, 01:14:18 PM »
Another thing to do at the Nats is hang out at the L Pad in the evening and watch the show Banjock and the Moons put on.  Dan can let loose all the oddball freeflight stuff he can't launch anywhere else, and the Moons have their annual HLG build and fly, plus you can watch Steve Moon drive the Baja 1000 freeflight retrival suburban...!
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« Reply #25 on: June 15, 2011, 01:17:13 PM »
Another thing to do at the Nats is hang out at the L Pad in the evening and watch the show Banjock and the Moons put on.  Dan can let loose all the oddball freeflight stuff he can't launch anywhere else, and the Moons have their annual HLG build and fly, plus you can watch Steve Moon drive the Baja 1000 freeflight retrival suburban...!


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Re: a Flight on the Trivial Pursuit
« Reply #26 on: June 16, 2011, 08:53:05 AM »
Hi,
Nice flight – can you give us some details about your pipe settings (pipe length, prop, RPMs etc.) I understand you are using RO JETT 76.
Thanks,
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Thanks Marek,

I'm using a RO Jett 76 like you said, and my pipe length is 19.25".  The prop I'm currently using is a 14-5 Rev Up.  These props are getting very hard to find since they aren't being made anymore.  I'm going to be trying out a few other props to see what the plane and engine like better before we go to Muncie.  My launch RPMs is 8500.  I'm also using a 6 ounce metal tank and total run time is about 6:30.

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Re: a Flight on the Trivial Pursuit
« Reply #27 on: June 16, 2011, 08:54:20 AM »
Another thing to do at the Nats is hang out at the L Pad in the evening and watch the show Banjock and the Moons put on.  Dan can let loose all the oddball freeflight stuff he can't launch anywhere else, and the Moons have their annual HLG build and fly, plus you can watch Steve Moon drive the Baja 1000 freeflight retrival suburban...!

I've seen that UFO that Danny had last year on Windy's video.  Definitely looks very cool and I saw a picture where his van was all loaded with stuff, and it was amazing all of it was intact!
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Re: a Flight on the Trivial Pursuit
« Reply #28 on: June 16, 2011, 09:06:46 AM »
I've seen that UFO that Danny had last year on Windy's video.  Definitely looks very cool and I saw a picture where his van was all loaded with stuff, and it was amazing all of it was intact!

Yep, Dan is the Man when it comes to fun!

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Re: a Flight on the Trivial Pursuit
« Reply #29 on: June 16, 2011, 12:15:02 PM »
I just looked at the long range weather forecast for the Muncie area.  According to the Old Farmer's Almanac, they're saying thunderstorms and hot temps prior to the NATS, and then sunny and seasonable temperatures during the week! #^
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Re: a Flight on the Trivial Pursuit
« Reply #30 on: June 16, 2011, 12:25:15 PM »
Good luck Matt!
Looks like you got it! y1


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Re: a Flight on the Trivial Pursuit
« Reply #31 on: June 16, 2011, 07:11:36 PM »
Today was a bad day to be a stunt engine in northern Vermont.  My grandfather's Double Star .50 in his Big Job had the muffler break from stress and vibration.  I need a new header for my RO-Jett 76, and my OS. 35 in the Ares saw her last flight as the bushing finally wore out.  It was belching and coughing through half of my pattern and not to mention lost power, and also I can move the spinner up and down and side to side.  Oh well, we'll swap out for another OS 35 we have in the next couple days and get that one rebushed since it ran so nice earlier.
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« Reply #32 on: June 16, 2011, 07:46:58 PM »
Today was a bad day to be a stunt engine in northern Vermont.  My grandfather's Double Star .50 in his Big Job had the muffler break from stress and vibration.  I need a new header for my RO-Jett 76, and my OS. 35 in the Ares saw her last flight as the bushing finally wore out.  It was belching and coughing through half of my pattern and not to mention lost power, and also I can move the spinner up and down and side to side.  Oh well, we'll swap out for another OS 35 we have in the next couple days and get that one rebushed since it ran so nice earlier.

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Re: a Flight on the Trivial Pursuit
« Reply #33 on: June 16, 2011, 11:09:42 PM »
Whats wrong with the header?
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Re: a Flight on the Trivial Pursuit
« Reply #34 on: June 16, 2011, 11:11:47 PM »
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       What happened to the header?
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Re: a Flight on the Trivial Pursuit
« Reply #35 on: June 17, 2011, 04:27:38 AM »
told you electric was the way to go

Because electrics never wear out, break, or explode? Now thats funny!

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Re: a Flight on the Trivial Pursuit
« Reply #36 on: June 17, 2011, 07:00:37 AM »
Whats wrong with the header?

The header is slotted, not a hole through the metal, and we've determined after talking to Richard Oliver that that's one of the reason's why the header came loose.  Also the bolts that were in the engine were the incorrect length.  Richard is sending us a new header, and the correct length bolts, and everything should be good after that.

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Re: a Flight on the Trivial Pursuit
« Reply #37 on: June 17, 2011, 07:15:28 AM »
Ok, that makes sense now.
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« Reply #38 on: June 17, 2011, 09:59:47 AM »
Hmmm...did the previous owner slot the header bolt holes perhaps to "drop" the header and gain more cowl clearence? (or raise it to clear the corner of the tank?) If so, be sure the new one (or the coupler or zip ties) doesn't rub the cowl belly or tank.

Minor tweaks can be done to the header bend without disturbing the internal dimension and hurting flow as long as done properly. Many ways to do this, some people fill with sand, etc. others insert a dowel... none of us probably own a mandrel bender, and even if we did, it's probably too late after the flange is welded on to use the mandrel machine. Bending carefully by hand, you can get it to budge maybe a degree or two, which would probably give any needed minimum clearence change. More than that and a proper rise header should be ordered.

Of course all this is just guess work and supposition, so I let's hope that's nothing you actually have to contend with, this is just a head's up.
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Ok, that makes sense now.

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Re: a Flight on the Trivial Pursuit
« Reply #39 on: June 17, 2011, 11:02:12 AM »
Hmmm...did the previous owner slot the header bolt holes perhaps to "drop" the header and gain more cowl clearence? (or raise it to clear the corner of the tank?) If so, be sure the new one (or the coupler or zip ties) doesn't rub the cowl belly or tank.

Minor tweaks can be done to the header bend without disturbing the internal dimension and hurting flow as long as done properly. Many ways to do this, some people fill with sand, etc. others insert a dowel... none of us probably own a mandrel bender, and even if we did, it's probably too late after the flange is welded on to use the mandrel machine. Bending carefully by hand, you can get it to budge maybe a degree or two, which would probably give any needed minimum clearence change. More than that and a proper rise header should be ordered.

Of course all this is just guess work and supposition, so I let's hope that's nothing you actually have to contend with, this is just a head's up.
(The internet sucks for diagnostic's, nothing like being there in person)

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That's my guess why the header became slotted, to gain some clearance inside the engine compartment.  There's also a little ding on the header, probably to help it clear the tank so the previous owner probably had space issues in the plane.
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Re: a Flight on the Trivial Pursuit
« Reply #40 on: June 17, 2011, 04:39:16 PM »
I just looked at the long range weather forecast for the Muncie area.  According to the Old Farmer's Almanac, they're saying thunderstorms and hot temps prior to the NATS, and then sunny and seasonable temperatures during the week! #^

Don't beleive the old Almanac.   What NATS I have attended have had at least one storm during the week.   H^^
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Re: a Flight on the Trivial Pursuit
« Reply #41 on: June 17, 2011, 09:59:41 PM »
Don't beleive the old Almanac.   What NATS I have attended have had at least one storm during the week.   H^^

Well the dates before the week of the nats, something like the 2nd-6th, they're saying thunderstorms and hot!  Usually they're pretty good, I read a couple years ago, for Long Island to expect a hurricane during the last week of september.  That was in January that year, and sure enough the last week of september came and there was a hurricane!

Today, I got two more flights on the Ares, and the motor started detonating, so tonight we swapped it out for a newer OS 35, that I already like better, as it has more compression and a larger venturi than the one I was using.  Hopefully a test flight or two or three tomorrow!
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Re: a Flight on the Trivial Pursuit
« Reply #42 on: June 18, 2011, 08:36:56 AM »
I love the texas roadhouse..

Last time I went - I got a 1.8 kg Steak....... didnt finish it but I gave it a good scare :)

If you always put limit on everything you do, physical or anything else. It will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them.” - Bruce Lee.

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 I Yearn for a world where chickens can cross the road without having their motives questioned.

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Re: a Flight on the Trivial Pursuit
« Reply #43 on: June 18, 2011, 10:00:29 AM »
Header screws for the RO-JETT 76 are 5-40 X 1/2" hex head.  I know because I dropped one on the carpet and it was gone forever!  Also, I had to enlarge the holes slightly on the muffler because they didn't line up with the crankcase.  Other than that........

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Re: a Flight on the Trivial Pursuit
« Reply #44 on: June 18, 2011, 05:41:44 PM »
Yep, Dan is the Man when it comes to fun!

One of my favorite pictures of Banjock free flight activity.  My other favorite is the one of Dan and Jim Lee diving for cover as the flying boomerang comes off the launching pole...
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Re: a Flight on the Trivial Pursuit
« Reply #45 on: June 18, 2011, 09:08:36 PM »
Header screws for the RO-JETT 76 are 5-40 X 1/2" hex head.  I know because I dropped one on the carpet and it was gone forever!  Also, I had to enlarge the holes slightly on the muffler because they didn't line up with the crankcase.  Other than that........

\Floyd

Yea, that's we have except they're an 1/8" too short.  the new bolts and header should arrive by monday or Tuesday.

Today we took the plastic tank out of my Oriental Plus because I'm sick of it, and cut into the wing to get enough room for a 6 ounce metal tank.  We reinforced everything after we cut it out and put a box in it.  That took well over half a day.  And tonight, I tried out the new OS 35 in the Ares.  This motor has more compression, runs better, and has more power than the other one I had in it.  Just need to add some tailweight because I couldn't put a tongue muffler on it.  Also grandpa flew it tonight and he really liked the way it flew!!

12 more days!!!!!!!!
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Re: a Flight on the Trivial Pursuit
« Reply #46 on: June 18, 2011, 09:11:13 PM »
One of my favorite pictures of Banjock free flight activity.  My other favorite is the one of Dan and Jim Lee diving for cover as the flying boomerang comes off the launching pole...

I'm sure he'll have plenty of goodies to try out during free time at the NATS!  ;D
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Re: a Flight on the Trivial Pursuit
« Reply #47 on: June 18, 2011, 11:37:13 PM »
The Pizza King thing cracks me up.  I have lived in the Muncie area my whole life and I love Pizza King pizza.  They ship those pizzas in dry ice all over the country and when my brother visits from Wisconsin the first place his family wants to go eat is Pizza King.  Its just funny to hear comments about Muncie from people from other parts of the country.  Safe travels and good luck at the Nats.

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Re: a Flight on the Trivial Pursuit
« Reply #48 on: June 19, 2011, 08:26:57 PM »
Really good Matt. Looks a little fast for an old guy like me. What are your lap times?
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Re: a Flight on the Trivial Pursuit
« Reply #49 on: June 20, 2011, 07:13:46 AM »
Really good Matt. Looks a little fast for an old guy like me. What are your lap times?

Thanks Greg,

Lap times were 5.1 on 67.5 feet of line center to center.
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