Well I have had some stuff on the bay that did not even get enough to pay for listing. I beleive there is a group that watch out for each other. When I see a kit go for about four times what it is actually worth and then a week or two later the same type kit going for almost nothing. Yes I have gotten some items at the starting bid. But, then again I have often thought that maybe the seller ought to give me a commission for the amount an item got. So if a person doesn't like the high starting price, don't bid.