Author Topic: Veco 19, Good stunter? (Read 1639 times)

louie klein · « **on:** August 27, 2011, 12:59:02 PM »

I picked up a Veco 19 ball bearing engine at a yard sale and I was wondering if it was a good stunter, like can I look for a 2/4 break or just use it to fly combat? Thanks ---LOUIE

Brett Buck · « **Reply #1 on:** August 27, 2011, 01:29:50 PM »

Quote from: louie klein on August 27, 2011, 12:59:02 PM

I picked up a Veco 19 ball bearing engine at a yard sale and I was wondering if it was a good stunter, like can I look for a 2/4 break or just use it to fly combat? Thanks ---LOUIE

The Veco is an excellent stunt engine, think of it as an ancestral 20FP with just a touch less power. Good for the smaller 35-sized airplanes with a 10-4, like a Banshee, Twister, etc. Goes like stink on a Ringmaster, too much, actually.

As far as I know it doesn't do much of a classic 4-2 break but you don't need that for stunt, and most people in the US haven't done it that way for close to a quarter of a century.

Brett

Tim Wescott · « **Reply #2 on:** August 27, 2011, 02:42:45 PM »

I'm confused -- 10-4 like you said, or 9-4 like one uses on an FP?

(Not that I have any Veco 19's to make the experiment on...)

Brett Buck · « **Reply #3 on:** August 27, 2011, 03:46:58 PM »

Quote from: Tim Wescott on August 27, 2011, 02:42:45 PM

I'm confused -- 10-4 like you said, or 9-4 like one uses on an FP?

It doesn't seem all that confusing to me. I said a 10-4, and that was on purpose. It's *like* a 20FP, not a clone of a 20FP.

You can also try a 9-4 but the Veco is less unhappy with larger props than the 20, and the larger prop can make up for some of the power deficit.

Brett

Tim Wescott · « **Reply #4 on:** August 27, 2011, 07:56:43 PM »

That's clear. Each motor and task combination is going to have the prop that's best for it, and it makes sense that a hot baffle-piston engine from the sixties (fifties?) is going to have a best RPM that's lower than a same-displacement hot Schnuerle ported engine from the 80's or 90's or whenever.

Bill Little · « **Reply #5 on:** August 27, 2011, 09:52:54 PM »

Quote from: Tim Wescott on August 27, 2011, 07:56:43 PM

That's clear. Each motor and task combination is going to have the prop that's best for it, and it makes sense that a hot baffle-piston engine from the sixties (fifties?) is going to have a best RPM that's lower than a same-displacement hot Schnuerle ported engine from the 80's or 90's or whenever.

Actually the Veco .19BB will run at about the same rpm as the .20FP. They were by far the strongest .19 size when they came out. Not much power loss compared to the .20FP. BTW: did anyone mention that they are LOUD?

Big Bear

Air Ministry . · « **Reply #6 on:** August 28, 2011, 05:45:46 PM »

9x4s and 8x6s for wailing , high nitro . Combat in N.Z. was 3.5cc . One won it once back then .
Were two intakes and two heads available .Needs to be bedded in considerately .
Grunty little suckers.

louie klein · « **Reply #7 on:** August 29, 2011, 06:27:53 AM »

Thanks for the feedback all, but to my shagrin after I cleaned and freed her all up, no compresson. Now I will start to search for parts. Thanks again.---LOUIE

Bill Little · « **Reply #8 on:** September 01, 2011, 11:28:01 PM »

Quote from: louie klein on August 29, 2011, 06:27:53 AM

Thanks for the feedback all, but to my shagrin after I cleaned and freed her all up, no compresson. Now I will start to search for parts. Thanks again.---LOUIE

Hi Louie,

I have seen piston/sleeves on ebay and MECOA still makes the engine so parts can come from there.

Big Bear

Joseph Patterson · « **Reply #9 on:** October 08, 2011, 11:12:30 PM »

I had a K&B Torpedo 19 when I was a kid- I think the motor was mfg. between 1954-58? It was slightly used when I got it in 1958. My question is does it bear any kinship to the Veco 19's of that era. I have not seen a K&B Torp 19 since those days. Recently I bought an old Veco 19 in very good condition and a much as I can remember (which isn't much) they look similar.
Thanks,
Doug

Bill Little · « **Reply #10 on:** October 09, 2011, 03:23:05 PM »

Quote from: Joseph Patterson on October 08, 2011, 11:12:30 PM

I had a K&B Torpedo 19 when I was a kid- I think the motor was mfg. between 1954-58? It was slightly used when I got it in 1958. My question is does it bear any kinship to the Veco 19's of that era. I have not seen a K&B Torp 19 since those days. Recently I bought an old Veco 19 in very good condition and a much as I can remember (which isn't much) they look similar.
Thanks,
Doug

The Series 100 Veco .19 was a plain bearing engine like the K&B.19GH. Not sure if it was as "highly timed" as the K&B. The latter Ball Bearing version was a horse for its time, and still probably the "best .19" that's been produced. About as strong as the OS .20FP.

I would say that the early Veco .19 would be similar in performance to the K&BGH, but probably not as capable of the higher rpm of the K&BGH.

Big Bear

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