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Offline nathan Metzner

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Question about prop selection for a .049
« on: September 18, 2010, 07:51:48 AM »
I have two 1/2 A planes that I fly fairly regularly. I've had great luck with the gricsh tornado 5.5/3 props. Both engines I use are cox's they have dual port cylinders and merlin drop in plug heads. I've also done some messaging on the carb. They run great but I have had almost no luck with other props. I'm almost out of the gricsh props and as far as I can tell you can't get them anymore. I havne't tryed the APC 5.7x3 yet. I do know that prop selection is very personal and each engine/plane combo is different despite that I'd like to know what props are you guys running on your cox's. My golden Bee is closer to a Black Widow then it is to a Baby Bee but any input will help. I really don't like the Cox 5x3 they flex too much and I get inconsistent runs on them.
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Re: Question about prop selection for a .049
« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2010, 08:01:46 AM »
Back in the day I always used 6x3' or even 6x2's.
But I also never used high nitro fuels.

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Re: Question about prop selection for a .049
« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2010, 08:12:37 AM »
Well I'm running 22.5% fuel. Hmmmm I don't know what a 6x2 prop would act like maybe I'll give that a try.
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Re: Question about prop selection for a .049
« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2010, 09:39:11 AM »
APC makes three props that seem to be good for the 049 -- there's a 5.5 x 2.5, a 6 x 2, and a 5.7 x 2.something with really skinny blades.  I have a similar engine to yours, and they all let the engine turn up significantly higher than with a 6 x 3.

The two 5.something props are good for making the plane go fast.  The 6 x 2 prop is much nicer for a "stunt style" flight -- it has lots of acceleration from launch and from hard maneuvers, but the top speed is lower.

Just get all three, and experiment.

You'll find that the prop hole is the wrong size, and that no one knows what adapter to use.  I made little aluminum bushings to go on mine.  Other people here have reported using fuel tubing.  One guy gave me an APC part number that is supposed to be good but which isn't on the APC web site -- a call to APC might be a good idea, there.

I have yet to break one in a normal power-off, no-landing gear landing, but they'll break long before the rest of the airframe will if the earth unexpectedly jumps up a few feet during an otherwise normal flight.
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Re: Question about prop selection for a .049
« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2010, 09:49:30 AM »
Yeah Tim my bipe makes daily contact with terraforma. That's how you learn lol. I didn't know about the APC hole diameter being too big. Ughhh I'll try them and make a shim or something. Maybe I'll make a thrust washer with the shim built into it.
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Re: Question about prop selection for a .049
« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2010, 01:12:43 PM »
      Nathan , I use a APC 5x3 pretty much for most of my COx engines. I let them wind up using Sig 25%-35% nitro. Indeed the prop hole is a problem but I do use the smaller fuel tubing. I've found a piece just cut slightly smaller than the hub width works well. I put the screw through the hole and then thread the tubing up the screw slightly. I then pull the screw back with the tubing so it nestles up inside the hub then I screw it onto the engine. It works and its simple and available. I believe the Cox gray 5x3's are being made available once again. Just keep in mind the Cox gray and the APC props do and will break very easy. The 5x3 APC props are almost $4.00 a piece. I strongly suggest sanding all edges of these props as they can leave a nasty bite. Ken

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Re: Question about prop selection for a .049
« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2010, 03:24:07 PM »
The APCs, sizes mentioned, work well.  For .049 I use the 5x3 or 5.5x2.5.   I run the 6x2 on my .061, lets it rev as Norvels like to do but controls the speed.  Yes, a small length of fuel line in the hub.  Do sand the TE of the blades if you're hand starting, they're sharp as a knife blade.

 I recently acquired a bunch of old Tornado 5x3 narrow-blade white nylon props, I'm using them on my Coxes at present. Seem be fairly well sized for the .049s.

If you have some of the Cox wide-blade 5x3s, cutting them down to 4.5 or even 4.25 dia. works pretty well on the reedies, unbreakable too.
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Re: Question about prop selection for a .049
« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2010, 03:56:14 PM »
Do sand the TE of the blades if you're hand starting, they're sharp as a knife blade.
I just wear my good ol' starting glove -- I've got enough funny scars on the backs of my right-hand fingers, thank you very much.
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