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Offline Air Ministry .

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Oh Dear.
« on: September 19, 2016, 09:14:45 PM »


There Should Be a LAW Against Some THINGS ! . Many a tall but true story on these monsteres .

Read The Last paragraph, if nothing else .  LL~ LL~ LL~ %^@ S?P S?P
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Re: Oh Dear.
« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2016, 04:06:48 PM »
I once had a Kumar-produced "Indian Mills 1.3cc". At least it ran, on a 10x3.5 Top Flite paddle blade. I held it in my hand to run it, and wasn't skeered in the slightest.  LL~ The thing the "Indian Mills" had going for it was long stroke/small bore. The piston speed goes up radically as the stroke, making piston fit less critical. And, FWIW, it is said that the Mills Brothers produced engines (England) weren't much better made.

The Katipo was optimistically designed with a modern short stroke, and the piston fits of the samples just weren't up to the task. There should always be some suspicion of engines assembled from leftover parts...very likely rejects.

Tolerances for model engine parts are shockingly tight in the world of commercial machine shops and yes, even "ArrowSpace" (sic) shops.  y1 Steve
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"The United States has become a place where professional athletes and entertainers are mistaken for people of importance." - Robert Heinlein

In 1944 18-20 year old's stormed beaches, and parachuted behind enemy lines to almost certain death.  In 2015 18-20 year old's need safe zones so people don't hurt their feelings.

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« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2016, 06:31:49 PM »
Reminds me of the Deezil, sold by Gotham Hobbies in the 50s.   n~

Anyone remember them?

I still have mine somewhere - never could get it to run.

  Bob Z.
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Re: Deezil
« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2016, 08:04:36 PM »
Quote from: Robert Zambelli on September 21, 2016, 06:31:49 PM
Reminds me of the Deezil, sold by Gotham Hobbies in the 50s.   n~

Anyone remember them?

I still have mine somewhere - never could get it to run.

  Bob Z.

There used to be casting kits available to build reproduction Deezils (there may still be).  It was the only full-scale reproduction casting set the guy offered.  Normally he didn't offer full-scale castings because he didn't want to be a party to someone counterfeiting a vintage engine -- but in the case of the Deezil, he figured that if you built one that actually ran people would understand that it couldn't be an original.

http://modelenginenews.org/ad/deezil.html
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Re: Oh Dear.
« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2016, 09:30:42 AM »
When we were about 11 , two teenagers used to get their jeans covered in fuel & blood , would get two or four flights , with two staggering around , sagging and colaposing .
Next summer when it would actually start and stay going they lost intrest , as it was no challene . :## or maybe it just BROKE ( I think this may be correct ) .
Later they took up something safer .
Hang Gliding .
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OURS - the hobby shops used to porn them off - no wonder theres no aeromodellors - They Wouldnt GO . :P

After ever lad and a few of their fathers had tried to beat it for three months , and lost intrest  LL~ it mightve been Run In , From FLICKING . And I manadged to start it . One warm day - Indoors .

A Irdiut Teacher bought one and a plane . Got good value for the generous 20 bucks ea for ' build and test '.
A Mechanic with a DB5 refitted it , the brother motored it over for hgours on a 3/4 horse drill , dripping motor oil in the intake .
It went like an Oliver & Started Easilly . Her Boyfriend manadge to start it . No Trouble . :o :o and was very pleased with it .

A easy 40 Hrs Work all up , for $ 40 .  S?P LL~ LL~ LL~ My mission was ' the Plane ' , the Brothers ' The Engine' . Didnt see him for a week there . LL~ LL~ %^@ Oh Dear .

Probly one of the few well behaved ' Examples ' extant .  LL~ :(
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Re: Oh Dear.
« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2016, 03:59:51 AM »
Now now, here in New Zealand we make fine things, mostly wine chocolate and things made from sheep.

I had a Katipo 1.5cc when I was a kid. It wasn't a bad little engine.

I believe they were quite widely used here in their day. But their day was a long time ago indeed.
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Re: Deezil
« Reply #6 on: September 24, 2016, 05:38:28 PM »
Quote from: Robert Zambelli on September 21, 2016, 06:31:49 PM
Reminds me of the Deezil, sold by Gotham Hobbies in the 50s.   n~

Anyone remember them?

I still have mine somewhere - never could get it to run.

  Bob Z.

Try about 50/50 mix of ether and castor oil. If you get it running, have the video camera nearby to record such a historical event.

FWIW, I was told by a friend in California that a typical "Indian Mills 1.3" would turn a 10 x 3.5 TF at the same rpm as an O&R .23. I think that's probably true enough, but I don't know what rpm that might be.  :X Steve
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"The United States has become a place where professional athletes and entertainers are mistaken for people of importance." - Robert Heinlein

In 1944 18-20 year old's stormed beaches, and parachuted behind enemy lines to almost certain death.  In 2015 18-20 year old's need safe zones so people don't hurt their feelings.

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Re: Oh Dear.
« Reply #7 on: September 24, 2016, 08:42:39 PM »
Yours mustve been One in a Thousand !  %^@ You Dont Know How Lucky You Are .





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Now now, here in New Zealand we make fine things, mostly wine chocolate and things made from sheep.

you overlook the TREKA , NZETA , BRITTEN . Chinese Gooseberrys , authentic non tiny tourist trinklets made with dremels by tribesman thatd be more use to me for porting work ,
The odd Yacht or Two , and smooth curves in the Higway North that Ruins it for Anglophile Motorcyclists , Though they finally woke up to CAMBER corrections after Cosmic Barrage
unlike HERE where they seldom wake up to ANYTHING , but what do you expect with the people who think theyre running the place .

Bring back a bit of disapline & none of this namby pamby liberal soggy brained vegetariables .
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Sounds l;ike theyve re written the FILM as usual . Sick of thumping idiots who think ' The Worlds Fasrest Indian' is a acurate portrail of Munro . But WHAt does ACCURACY matter These Days .



Bring Back the Katipo , I Say . ( it gives a warm fuzzy feeling between the ears , like a bite from its namesake , the SPIDER ) ( Probly a Commie CNC abc oned actually RUN , on the Whole  LL~)



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