Author Topic: Laughs from e-bay (Read 4025 times)

FLOYD CARTER · « **on:** October 19, 2009, 11:56:20 AM »

Anyone follow the auction last week? An Orwick 73 (low S/N) went for $700+

Some people have wallets bigger than brains.

Floyd

Robert McHam · « **Reply #1 on:** October 19, 2009, 02:43:17 PM »

There was a Wen Mac P-38 that went for 3700 dollars and while the plane looked spectacular, one wonders how much that same plane in a really nice condition box?

Also saw a Ace R/C brand throttle sleeve for a Cox 049 engine sell for 27 or 28 dollars.

You know, its one thing to know that there are people out there that will pay this much but keep in mind that it is only because someone else bid darn near as much to drive it that high.

Robert

Steve Helmick · « **Reply #2 on:** October 19, 2009, 08:17:42 PM »

Probably a lot of those high bids don't get paid, too. Easier to change User ID than have the wife chop you off at the knees for being an idjit.

Steve

PS: I've never (yet) bought or sold anything on eBay.

kenneth cook · « **Reply #3 on:** October 19, 2009, 08:28:48 PM »

I'm not familiar with this particular engine described. I can only speculate that regardless of the quality you do have to realize these products are out of production and depending on condition just may warrant that price. One can ask how many of these are actually left. As for the p-38, I had only seen one of these personally. I guess if you are that hardcore collector it just may be the holy grail to that individual. Our memories seem to go back in time and think about how we could of bought that item for its at time price. I own several Mccoy's redheads that my father gave me and who would think that these engines could even bring more than $45.00 but they do. My father laughs when he tells me how they would virtually ruin one a week just to fulfill a weekend flying session. He recalls paying under $5.00 for some of them. They do have a neat look to them which may explain the desire to want to run one but just like the above mentioned plastic planes they made a lot of these. I guess the majority have either made it to the trash cans or when the owners lost interest they gave these items away. I can't say that some of these numbers don't impress me because it does its just that individual wanting it more than myself. As much as I use Ebay's services, I think it does some harm to driving the prices up. It seems when an item sells for a high cost the public feels as though this sets the premise for that item. I've witnessed similar items for sale that were minutes apart sell for completely contradicting prices. On the other hand, I owe a lot to the service as I've been able to find what would've been impossible parts to find otherwise. Ken

James C. Johnson · « **Reply #4 on:** October 23, 2009, 06:55:08 PM »

I just bought a new Enya 45 6001 for $32.. it was dirty.. when I got it I was surprised that it was new.. A month ago I sold a Fox Combat 35 Special for $202.. NIB.. and just recently sold a RH 35 and RH 29 for $240... they were pristine, no boxes or directions... I was very surprised... I saw a Berkeley Custom Privateer list for $500 with the reserve not met... It had one bid and didn't sell.

Steve... all these guys pay.. several years ago I bought a NIB OS 40H Stunt for $138.. I have not seen anoher in new condition since..

It's all relative.. I liken eBay to fishin'... once in awhile you can hook a big one.. but ya still gotta go fishin'...

I am amazed at the prices ... truth is they aren't going down.. another notable auction an Elf 4 went for $2,562.99,

a 1957 SUPER TIGRE G31 1.5cc Diesel went for $405.58

The good stuff always gets top dollar... but there are diamonds in the rough out there too.. in early 2003 I have a Wen Mac P-38 in Pristine cond. selling for $2600, in my book , RTFs are getting quite a following.. it is one of those "cross collectible" toys..

Jim

Jim Kraft · « **Reply #5 on:** October 23, 2009, 09:13:35 PM »

I think that may be the secret here as there were only 125 of the Orwick 73's built from 1942-45. In 1945 Henry went to the "64". I don't imagine there are to many of them left. There were a few 73's built by others as repros, but if that was an original, it may have been needed for someones collection.

Bill Morell · « **Reply #6 on:** October 24, 2009, 06:03:55 PM »

How do you put a price on someones happiness? Why does someone make fun of another when they are willing to spend to be happy? That Orwick 73 was part of the collection of Ted Etnikiknap ( I know I spelled that wrong). His collection was/is amazing. A lot of his engines were proto types or just plain rare. While I wouldn't spend that much for a Orwick 73 I would still love to have one.

dssit · « **Reply #7 on:** October 25, 2009, 07:34:58 AM »

a picasso painting that looks like a 3 year old drew sells for big bucks. I'ts the gotta have it I don't care what it cost. look around your hobby room . I am sure you will find something like that. I know I am guilty.

Terry Bolin · « **Reply #8 on:** October 27, 2009, 08:33:12 AM »

I listed some Vintage Fox motors on there yesterday and was VERY suprised to see Fox 35's for $155.00 and more. What's up with that? Why would you pay over a hundred for a Fox 35?

john e. holliday · « **Reply #9 on:** October 29, 2009, 07:49:32 AM »

To me I say there are still people out there with more money than brains. If I could only get them to adopt me. But, really gets me when I see something go for more than you can still get it at. I had two kits that were almost identical. One was still in shrink wrap and the other one was started. It was a foam wing kit. One wing panel was messed up trying to sand dehidral. The fuselage was started. The opened kit that was not all there went for more than I paid for it. The new kit didn't get close to the reserve I had on it, which was 3/4's of the original price. It may wind up being my fun scale plane. Have fun, DOC Holliday

Ralph Wenzel (d) · « **Reply #10 on:** October 29, 2009, 01:40:13 PM »

Quote from: Terry Bolin on October 27, 2009, 08:33:12 AM

I listed some Vintage Fox motors on there yesterday and was VERY suprised to see Fox 35's for $155.00 and more. What's up with that? Why would you pay over a hundred for a Fox 35?

Simple answer: Take a NIB Fox .35 ($55 w/trade-in); add a Smith/Nelson crank ($50); add a Hemi-head ($35); add a Stuffer Backplate ($20) and presto! You got a $160 Fox .35. Now add custom fitting and assembly by Randy Smith, Lew Woolard or Larry Foster and maybe a Ceramic piston/cylinder assembly, and you got . . .

Paul Smith · « **Reply #11 on:** October 29, 2009, 05:20:25 PM »

I've got a few NIB old engines I was tinking about flying.

But now you're making me wonder if I can afford to.

Dan Labine · « **Reply #12 on:** October 29, 2009, 07:28:51 PM »

I agree that Ebay is like going fishing. I enjoy looking at whats for sale. Lots of history in these items. I have seen some stuff that I think is selling for way to much so I don't bid. There are some kits I see there that I would be willing to pay top dollar for because they are of sentimental value to me. Unfortunately "snipers" have beaten me to them.
I'll keep trying though..

In fact I prefer to buy stuff in the "classifieds" here and SSW.

Matt Colan · « **Reply #13 on:** October 29, 2009, 07:53:07 PM »

Here's one that I think is particularly humorous. $75 would be about all I would pay for an OS 35S.

260497852153

That's the item number

Greg L Bahrman · « **Reply #14 on:** October 29, 2009, 10:09:37 PM »

A $100.00 for a new in the box reliable stunt motor is not unreasonable. And a proven design at that. Actually perfect for many classic ships. No I don't want it, but whoever gets it will be happy.

Matt Colan · « **Reply #15 on:** October 31, 2009, 05:21:47 PM »

Look who's laughing now, we are thinking of shooting a bid on that OS 35. While I was looking through the pages of stuff that was up for auction, I found a couple of old ignition spark plugs that the guy wants $45 DOLLARS for it, I found that ridiculous.

john e. holliday · « **Reply #16 on:** November 01, 2009, 08:04:48 AM »

Not to a collector.

dennis lipsett · « **Reply #17 on:** November 02, 2009, 07:09:38 PM »

Quote from: Ralph Wenzel on October 29, 2009, 01:40:13 PM

Simple answer: Take a NIB Fox .35 ($55 w/trade-in); add a Smith/Nelson crank ($50); add a Hemi-head ($35); add a Stuffer Backplate ($20) and presto! You got a $160 Fox .35. Now add custom fitting and assembly by Randy Smith, Lew Woolard or Larry Foster and maybe a Ceramic piston/cylinder assembly, and you got . . .

Ralph, not to argue with you but for that money I'd as soon as buy a good motor that actually is made to run well from the beginning. There is something really wrong with buying a sows ear and trying to make it into a silk purse. Only the most die hard Fox afficianado can justify the expense of doing that. Don't take it personnel, it's only my opinion..
Dennis

Greg Howie · « **Reply #18 on:** November 06, 2009, 02:19:52 AM »

How do they out bid you with 3 seconds left at 4:00 AM ?

Matt Colan · « **Reply #19 on:** November 07, 2009, 06:12:03 AM »

Quote from: Greg Howie on November 06, 2009, 02:19:52 AM

How do they out bid you with 3 seconds left at 4:00 AM ?

Lotsa' coffee!!

Quote from: Matt Colan on October 29, 2009, 07:53:07 PM

Here's one that I think is particularly humorous. $75 would be about all I would pay for an OS 35S.

260497852153

That's the item number

This motor ended up going for over $150, so grandpa didn't put a bid on it.

Bob Reeves · « **Reply #20 on:** November 08, 2009, 10:58:34 AM »

Quote from: Matt Colan on November 07, 2009, 06:12:03 AM

Lotsa' coffee!!

This motor ended up going for over $150, so grandpa didn't put a bid on it.

Wow, I sold all my Max 35s' when the Brodak 40 came out thinking they would end up not being very desirable in light of the much better B40. I didn't get that much even for a GMA rework NIB. Guess I should have hung on a bit longer.

Jim Thomerson · « **Reply #21 on:** November 08, 2009, 12:51:32 PM »

I will share one of my ebay secrets. At one time, I would not bid on an item with excessive postage. Then I broke my rule and got the item, postage and all, for less than my highest bid. Did that successfully a couple of more times. I have too much stuff already, so fine for you to out bid me.

Ralph Wenzel (d) · « **Reply #22 on:** November 08, 2009, 02:57:11 PM »

Quote from: dennis lipsett on November 02, 2009, 07:09:38 PM

Ralph, not to argue with you but for that money I'd as soon as buy a good motor that actually is made to run well from the beginning. There is something really wrong with buying a sows ear and trying to make it into a silk purse. Only the most die hard Fox afficianado can justify the expense of doing that. Don't take it personnel, it's only my opinion..
Dennis

No problem, Dennis, - - -I was just answering a question . . .

Jim Thomerson · « **Reply #23 on:** November 08, 2009, 07:36:14 PM »

I took the hemi-head off my Fox 35 as it was too powerful. It is just right with with the stock head.

dennis lipsett · « **Reply #24 on:** November 10, 2009, 02:38:46 PM »

Jim,
I'm in shock. Never in my life have I ever heard the words, my Fox was too powerful. Usually it was the opposite.In fact the Fox 35 was usually greeted with a few explatives in this area.
Dennis

Jim Kraft · « **Reply #25 on:** November 10, 2009, 06:16:03 PM »

All of my later Fox 35's have been that way also. Generally go back to a stock head to detune them a bit. I think a lot of guys run to cold of a plug in them. Mine make gobs of power on Thunderbolt R/C longs. Pull 48 oz. planes with eze.

Jim Kraft · « **Reply #26 on:** November 11, 2009, 04:58:17 PM »

Hey Guys; A late model Orwick 64 just went for $688.00 last night. There was something like 24 bids on it. You just never know. I have noticed that many old sparkers are down in price a bit, as the economy goes down. Good time to pick up some bargains if you need a sparker. As long as it is not an Orwick.

De Hill · « **Reply #27 on:** November 12, 2009, 04:09:20 PM »

Who needs an Orwick .64? I have one for sale that's relatively cheap. ( $300.00)

Don Hutchinson AMA5402 · « **Reply #28 on:** November 12, 2009, 09:25:55 PM »

De-
Condition of main bearing and compression?? What is the serial #?
Don

De Hill · « **Reply #29 on:** November 12, 2009, 09:58:09 PM »

Quote from: Don Hutchinson AMA5402 on November 12, 2009, 09:25:55 PM

De-
Condition of main bearing and compression?? What is the serial #?
Don

Hi Don,

The serial number is 64394. In the upper R/H corner of the backplate, the number 275 is stamped. There is a little paint loss on the bottom and bypass side of the engine. It looks like someone tried to touch up the paint under the exhaust stack. (not me)

The main bearing and compression are great.A Champion plug is included, and it has the Orwick motor mount brackets installed. Two have Orwick stamped on them and two don't.

There are no broken or missing fins on the cylinder and head, and no cracks on the crankcase.

De

Don Hutchinson AMA5402 · « **Reply #30 on:** November 13, 2009, 02:24:43 PM »

Thanks for the info Dee- Could be an Orwick built or Cunningham built engine. Based on the S/N I would guess it is from the 1946 builds. Orwick built 162 of them and Cunningham built 700. I am actually on the lookout for the 1947 4000 series engines.
Don

Mike Lauerman · « **Reply #31 on:** April 02, 2010, 07:06:52 PM »

Quote from: Greg Howie on November 06, 2009, 02:19:52 AM

How do they out bid you with 3 seconds left at 4:00 AM ?

THEY HAVE A MACHINE. IT IS AN OUTRIGGER THAT PLUGS INTO YOUR COMPUTER. MY BROTHER AND I WERE TRYING TO BUY SOME AMT '36 FORD ROADSTER KITS AND THIS GUY HOMER KEPT BEATING US TO THEM. BY SECONDS SOMETIMES. WE MET A FRIEND OF HIS AT A COLLECTO, AND HE TOLD US ABOUT THIS 'SNIPING MACHINE'! SOME PEOPLE...

Bill Gruby · « **Reply #32 on:** April 03, 2010, 06:14:30 AM »

Quote from: Mike Lauerman on April 02, 2010, 07:06:52 PM

THEY HAVE A MACHINE. IT IS AN OUTRIGGER THAT PLUGS INTO YOUR COMPUTER. MY BROTHER AND I WERE TRYING TO BUY SOME AMT '36 FORD ROADSTER KITS AND THIS GUY HOMER KEPT BEATING US TO THEM. BY SECONDS SOMETIMES. WE MET A FRIEND OF HIS AT A COLLECTO, AND HE TOLD US ABOUT THIS 'SNIPING MACHINE'! SOME PEOPLE...

All you have to do to bid in the last 3 seconds or less is join one of the sniper clubs. I believe Ebay has their own. Look at the time and date the auction ends, tell them how much you want to bid and when you want the bid placed. You don't have to be on line, they bid for you automatically. Don't forget you pay for this little edge. Done deal.

"Billy G"

Jim Thomerson · « **Reply #33 on:** April 03, 2010, 12:52:47 PM »

Years ago, I had a Super Tigre G27 diesel, a 19 size plain bearing. I didn't really know how to run it and replaced it with a Torp 19 and went flying. The engine got out of my hands and I would like to have one back. A while back my friend ureelybob put a NIB one on ebay. I bid $150, and it went for $400. He put several more on, with each one going higher; last one for $800. I don't think I even got in fast enough to bid $150 on any of the later offers.

Paul Smith · « **Reply #34 on:** April 03, 2010, 01:11:29 PM »

Quote from: Greg Howie on November 06, 2009, 02:19:52 AM

How do they out bid you with 3 seconds left at 4:00 AM ?

They do that with "AUTO SNIPE" programs. They are rigged to automtically beat the high bid by the lowest permissible increment. I guess if several of these were focused on the same item, it would be HAPPY DAYS for teh seller.

Of course, auto snipe generally has an upper limit.

But what if a Cox Sportsman-powered Piper Commanche (NIB) was up for auction and Bill Gates, Warren Buffett, and the Walton brothers all wanted it?