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Offline Tim Wescott

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How big a tank
« on: May 10, 2010, 07:42:49 PM »
For an OS Max 25?  That's a plain old OS Max 'nothin' 25, not LA or FA or Slartibartfast or anything.  Venturi size is "the RC carb wired open".

I've got an old Perfect wedge tank that's 1 x 1.75 x 3, which I'm estimating at around 2.5 - 3 ounces, but I suspect it'll be too small for a full pattern.

(I'm putting together a practice/backup/'dangit I broke my real plane' plane).
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Re: How big a tank
« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2010, 08:45:20 PM »
I never had the RC version, but it's probably near the same size as the CL venturi. Three ounces of fuel is probably more than enough. So if you've got a 3 oz tank, use it and reduce fuel if you're going over the time limit.
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Re: How big a tank
« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2010, 10:45:44 PM »
Thanks.  That's what I was hoping to hear.
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Re: How big a tank
« Reply #3 on: May 15, 2010, 12:46:13 PM »
For an OS Max 25?  That's a plain old OS Max 'nothin' 25, not LA or FA or Slartibartfast or anything.  Venturi size is "the RC carb wired open".

I've got an old Perfect wedge tank that's 1 x 1.75 x 3, which I'm estimating at around 2.5 - 3 ounces, but I suspect it'll be too small for a full pattern.

(I'm putting together a practice/backup/'dangit I broke my real plane' plane).

    3 ounces is probably enough if you run it normally. Depending on what airplane it's in, you may want to pump it up (nitro, etc) and then you might be in a bit of trouble with 3 oz.

    I note that the 25 we are talking about putting in full-size Noblers, Twisters, etc. is not the motor you are describing. I have a motor like yours (25-S Baffle piston from the 70's) and while it's a nice runner it won't fly typical 35-sized models very well. A Still Stuka is about the max and that won't have a lot of margin with conventional fuel. A light Ringmaster would be OK.  I would also note that I broke the crank in my engine running it on Cox Racing fuel to get more ponies out of it.

   The last airplane I flew with mine was a Jr. Nobler, and that had *a lot* of margin. Until I crashed it trying to do a reverse wingover. That's not an ideal combination either - if I had another Jr.Nobler I would use either a Cox Sportsman 15 (I have *two* of those), a Max III/II 15, or an LA15 (because I know how to handle the grossly excessive power). A 15LA has considerably more power than a 25-S.

     I am curious - what sort of airplane are you planning to fly with a 25S? There aren't a lot of airplanes in the right size range.

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Re: How big a tank
« Reply #4 on: May 15, 2010, 03:54:46 PM »
I note that the 25 we are talking about putting in full-size Noblers, Twisters, etc. is not the motor you are describing. I have a motor like yours (25-S Baffle piston from the 70's) and while it's a nice runner it won't fly typical 35-sized models very well.

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I am curious - what sort of airplane are you planning to fly with a 25S? There aren't a lot of airplanes in the right size range.
There aren't -- so I'm making one.  That's why I'm asking all the questions about airfoils and nose moments and such on the design group.

I'm kind of interpolating between older designs for baffled 15s and 19s, and the Nobler for a baffled 35, and coming up with somewhere around 400 or 450 square inches.  I'm going for 400 squares, because I can always throttle down, but throttling up is hard (and hard on cranks, apparently).

I've also had a hankering to build something with a V tail, so the model is a semi (very semi) scale Waiex.  There's probably a bazillion different reasons to build something more conventional is smarter -- this may be my only chance to build this aircraft and have it be more capable of the pattern than I am!

For an idea, see http://www.sonexaircraft.com/aircraft/waiex.html -- imagine the fuse squished down to normal stunt dimensions, ditto the V tail, and the wing moved up with the dihedral removed.  I was going to keep the dihedral even though it is supposed to be deleterious to performance in the wind -- but got lazy, and decided a plank wing would work just fine.
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