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Offline Joe Messinger

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Fox .25
« on: May 22, 2010, 10:36:53 PM »
Well, here's another 'Fox" question(s) . . .
  
  I put together an S-1 Ringmaster last winter and the only engine I have that might be suitable for it is a Fox .25.  I did say "might be" because I know very little about the Fox .25 engines. This one is marked 'RC' on the case and has a bolt on c/l venturi.  No muffler or provision for one.   Here are my questions:

*Is the "Fox Burp" inherent to the .25 as it is with the .35 & .40 (perhaps others)?  
*Is there a boost port and might blocking that (if it has one) help?  
*Is the 'RC' ported differently from the standard c/l engines?  
*Are there any other NVAs that will work on the .25?
*Would a 9/5 prop be suitable for this Ringmaster/Fox .25 set up?
  
  I don't have any ambition to compete with this Ringmaster, just try and have some fun sport flying with it.
  
  I'm sure an OS, LA .25 engine would be a much better choice for this plane but the Sterling kit and Fox .25 engine were given to me by a friend and I would like to be able to fly it, pretty much, as it was given to me.
  
Thanks for any advice and suggestions.

Joe

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Re: Fox .25
« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2010, 11:08:05 PM »
*Is the "Fox Burp" inherent to the .25 as it is with the .35 & .40 (perhaps others)?  
YES. But to reduece the burp lower the pitch and rev-up the engine
*Is there a boost port and might blocking that (if it has one) help?
Yes..But I never tryed to block one before It's not a boost port it's a intake that needs to be smaller
*Is the 'RC' ported differently from the standard c/l engines?
NO the five I have are the same 
*Are there any other NVAs that will work on the .25?
YES...Any super tiger..HOWEVER you will need the venturi opened up and washers to fit the center of the hole
*Would a 9/5 prop be suitable for this Ringmaster/Fox .25 set up?
YES and 9.5x4.5 10x4
USE ALL CASTOR FUEL.
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Re: Fox .25
« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2010, 01:44:14 AM »
If its the light 70s one, vertical intake, two weeny screws ,

they work rather well .Little ribs below exhaust port ,

usually a bolt hole over and under cenre of exhaust .

and / or lugs fore and aft. Take a .35 silencer .

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Theres a 19 the same but 1 fin lower , thats a howler

as the holes are the same size and the timings hotter.

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Like Nitro , will switch / change tone . 9x4 if its lugging.

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Re: Fox .25
« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2010, 02:55:08 PM »
  If it is the Four bolt backplete, six bolt head, baffled piston, non-ball bearing shaft version with th verticle venturi/carb that Matthew seems to be referring to,, then it probably will not have the "Fox Burp" (none of mine did).  It already has a fairly small by-pass.  It does not 4-2-4 break easily, but runs well in a Rich two setting.  a 9 X 4 to 9 X 5 prop and up to 15% nitro with 25 to 30% CASTOR oil  should give you a pretty good run.

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Re: Fox .25
« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2010, 04:40:15 PM »
Don't cheat on the oil either. The Engines don't have pads on the wrist pin and have been known to scour a line on the liner if abused.
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Re: Fox .25
« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2010, 10:31:20 PM »
Thanks to all who answered my questions. 

Marvin: Yes, the engine is the same as you described.

I'll install another NVA and give it a try.

Regards,

Joe

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Re: Fox .25
« Reply #6 on: June 08, 2010, 08:30:30 PM »
My flying buddy Tom has an S-1 ( average to slightly porky weight) with the 4 bolt  .25.  Stock except for a strap on lightweight tounge muffler.  10-4 wood  prop ( Zinger maybe?)
Good solid slightly rich 2- cycle run pulls the plane around on .015 X 60 with good tension and lap times around 5 secs.  No burp or funny run, stunts well and pretty easy to fly. It  seems to like a Fox Miracle plug with PowerMaster GMA 10% nitro all castor fuel.
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Re: Fox .25
« Reply #7 on: June 09, 2010, 09:51:47 AM »
JOE...Hows the engine working now!!??
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Re: Fox .25
« Reply #8 on: June 09, 2010, 09:46:24 PM »
Scott,

Well, I haven't gotten around to changing the NVA on the Fox.25 yet or trying the engine/plane.  That project got sidelined due repairs being made on another plane. Unexpected encounter with a field box while landing resulted in a broken wing.  Proves field boxes are allot tougher than planes.  Of course field boxes don't fly so good although I felt like hurling the thing as far as I could after the incident.  Though better of it because I would then need to repair both the plane and the field box. 

I hope to get the broken plane back in the air this week and will see what the Ringmaster/Fox.25 will do.

Regards,

Joe
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Re: Fox .25
« Reply #9 on: June 10, 2010, 10:56:50 AM »
Unexpected encounter with a field box while landing
When I was a kid my "field box" was my back pocket.  Now, I make sure to keep my field box at least six feet away from the expected flight line of the plane, and fetch what I need as I need it.

Of course, I'm flying with a bunch of old RC guys who want to stand right next to my field box, so there's more than the safety of the plane involved...
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