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Offline Allen Eshleman

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Brodak Uniflow Nobler Tank
« on: August 02, 2010, 09:41:38 PM »
I just bought a four ounce uniflow tank from Brodak which is advertised as the one for a Nobler.  I have it in a Nobler.  However, there are no directions with it.  My question is, which tube does the fuel go in?  These come out of the bottom or a Nobler fuselage and go up along the outside of the fuselage with one end on top of the of the other.
Which is for fill and which is for overflow?

Another question - do either or both get capped off during flight?

Thanks in advance for your help.




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Re: Brodak Uniflow Nobler Tank
« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2010, 09:59:02 PM »
Fill it through the top (uniflow tube). Bottom tube is the overflow. During flight it is normally capped off.  8)
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Re: Brodak Uniflow Nobler Tank
« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2010, 04:42:23 PM »
Is only the overflow capped off? 


Would letting the fill tube uncapped provide a bit of pressure?

Thanks for the info.


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Re: Brodak Uniflow Nobler Tank
« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2010, 05:25:44 PM »
Correct, only the overflow is capped off. The top (uniflow vent) can either be vented to the outside (cap left off) or attached via a piece of tubing to a fitting on the muffler. That is what is referred to as muffler pressure. Some engine/set-ups (and fliers) like it, some don't. Try it both ways and see which way you prefer. You will have to adjust the needle valve when switching from one to the other. Leaner on muffler pressure if I remember correctly.These are the set-ups most fliers use with uniflow tanks but there are others...

If you block off the uniflow vent and leave the overflow uncapped, you will have just turned your uniflow tank into an an old style suction tank. Not to my liking. You can also keep the uniflow blocked and attach a muffler pressure line to the overflow. This will pressurize the tank and can work OK.

As a starting point, just block the overflow, keep the uniflow vented to the outside, and go fly. You can experiment with these other variations if you have trouble getting a consistent run with the first two set-ups.  8)
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Re: Brodak Uniflow Nobler Tank
« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2010, 09:18:34 PM »
Thanks Peter,


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Re: Brodak Uniflow Nobler Tank
« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2010, 09:21:16 PM »
Thanks Pete,

      Now I just have to get to the field and try.  I don't currently have a muffler set up for pressure.   The overflow tube is forward facing.

    Thanks again.

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Re: Brodak Uniflow Nobler Tank
« Reply #6 on: August 03, 2010, 10:25:21 PM »
That should work fine. One last thing. If it is the type of tank I think it is the uniflow and overflow tubes come out the bottom of the tank, bend 180 degrees around the fuselage and end above the top of the tank. That's a lot of unsupported tubing in the airstream. I have had the solder crack where it comes out of the bottom of the tank.

I suggest glopping, I mean neatly applying some JB weld where the tubes exit the bottom of the tank.  This will keep the vibration from cracking the solder joint. 8)
« Last Edit: August 04, 2010, 04:38:39 PM by Pete Cunha »
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Re: Brodak Uniflow Nobler Tank
« Reply #7 on: August 12, 2010, 08:51:11 PM »
I'm sad to report.  I got one half decent flight in but didn't have the needle right.  It was running rich.  Then I switched lines from 52 ft to 70 ft.  We thought it was 60 ft.  Well, it was running great but hit a pole with the outside wing tip and buckled the plane.  I don't know if we'll try to reconstruct the cranky Nobler, as I had it on another post in Open Forum.  I was getting it to fly better with the suggestions made there about trim.

The B-40 and the tank are now in a Smoothie, awaiting a new first flight in that plane.

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Re: Brodak Uniflow Nobler Tank
« Reply #8 on: August 13, 2010, 11:04:25 AM »
If you leave the overflow open then it's just an ordinary suction tank (with or without a plug in the uniflow line).  The point of the uniflow tank is that it makes the tank act as if there were just a bit of fuel left all the time, so the fuel mixture isn't sensitive to the varying fuel level.  That only happens if there's one vent, right by the fuel pickup.

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