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Offline John Desrosiers

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AP Yellow Jacket
« on: August 09, 2012, 12:44:02 PM »
Can someone give some info on this little 15 size engine? I want to use it on a sig. akromaster.

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Re: AP Yellow Jacket
« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2012, 07:43:47 PM »
Well, if you have the AP already, give it some run time on the bench and see how you like it. Before doing that, open it up and rinse out the internals of the engine to get rid of dirt left inside it from machining.

If you don't already own it, then there are probably other engines that people would recommend for the Akromaster. Something like an OS 10FP or Enya 09-IV or Enya 15-V.

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Re: AP Yellow Jacket
« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2012, 05:39:04 PM »
I just ordered one of these for my Akromaster I was planning on using a 15X on it but my a buddy at work gave me a case of 12.5 nitro heli fuel he turned his heli into a pile of magnesium and carbon fiber chips and said he is getting back into gardening at his wife's request so I will see how it works out. T.J.
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Re: AP Yellow Jacket
« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2012, 02:11:10 AM »
              The weight factor is certainly going to be a bit of a concern as it usually is on the Akro. The 15x unmuffled is what the plane was designed for. I know this was quite problematic with the Enya .15 I had on mine. I stated in a earlier thread with regards to the rear exhaust. I truthfully don't know how you can get around that aside from mounting your tank inboard. That just may be the solution. A standard wedge places the pickup of the tank too far outboard and through the flight about midway the engines I used would want to start leaning rapidly and fuel draw would suffer and you just couldn't control the run. I would have the plane dead rich on launch barely able to leap off of the ground and then it would go bananas. The short nose of the Akro doesn't allow for much in tank design and having the rear exhaust would certainly complicate that factor.

Many on here suggested to increase the wing length of the plane on the Akro. Although, I've never done this I certainly recommend it. I think the problem  the Akro is faced with is,  for the amount of squares it has, it's already taxiing the wing using  the lighter Fox.15. When you start using heavier engines, the plane now has to fly much faster which works well, but it doesn't  seem  to allow for the graceful flying of a larger stunter. Ideally, I would bet an engine such as the Cox Medallion .15 would be a terrific choice if unmuffled engines are an option. All of my Akromaster's were from kit built wood. I made no alterations to any of the Akro's I built,  so my best suggestion is to keep it light. I built 3 of them all using different engines. I've run the AP.09 and I wanted to try this engine on a plane, the rear exhaust however has me stumped. The engine just runs poorly with the factory muffler so I suppose the .15 Yellow Jacket wouldn't be any different seeing that it's the same muffler. Ken

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Re: AP Yellow Jacket
« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2012, 07:28:18 AM »
Hi Ken ,I have just started on my kit so far I have gotten the leading and trailing edges cut and spars cut and glued . I have a 15x for this plane but nothing is set in stone yet . I think the engine is coming from Hong Kong , lord knows how long that will take ? I am a retread and having a blast , I also have a flite Streak trainer I am building next. I think I am enjoying the tinkering with the engines as much as flying and building. I have a good friend with a machine shop and I swap welding for machining , so I was thinking about having him make me a tongue muffler for the 15 x. I was looking at the AP muffler and was thinking about drilling more holes in the side of it but want to get it running first and have my buddy make me a venturi for it, he makes prototype surgical instruments for cardiologists to test for patent purposes, but he is a gear head at heart he just thinks on another level than most people I know I will show him what I need and leave it up to him , and he never fails to amaze me.Thanks for your insight from your experience on this build you might have saved me some trouble. T.J.
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Re: AP Yellow Jacket
« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2012, 08:38:57 AM »
              T.J., I would be very interested in hearing your experience using this engine as I own one myself. As for things from Hong Kong, it certainly could surprise you. Mine was an Ebay purchase some time back also from Hong Kong. I don't recall the wait but it didn't come with box or instructions. It was just factory sealed in a bag. I wasn't concerned with that issue as I'm quite familiar with the smaller brother the .09. I thought of making a adapter that threaded into the case but extended out the rear with a barb like fitting. I would think something like a tuned pipe like the R/C car group uses would be quite interesting. This style muffler/pipe could be attached to the adapter via a silicone coupler. A elbow for the header may also get things out of the way for the tank. Ken

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Re: AP Yellow Jacket
« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2012, 06:31:16 PM »
I have an .061 wasp with a Jan Holuszko venturi in it and I love it eventually it is going to end up on a mini peacemaker I saw the plans for on an English web site. I remember reading that the yellow jacket is actually a 13.5 or so and not an actual . 15 . The flite streak trainer is probably going to get a clamp motor mount set up as I have a bunch of .15's to .19's to try out. I figured at $31.00 I didn't have a lot to lose and I figured they might stop making it before long so I snatched it up, what I really wanted was an ASP .12 but they haven't been in stock for ages. I will let you guys know how it works out. T.J.
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Re: AP Yellow Jacket
« Reply #7 on: October 04, 2012, 08:49:07 PM »
The only thing that I found was that the venturi you could get from hobby people was a little to big. You had to block off the muffler to get pressure in the tank to get it to run. balance was good and the power was good. Try to put a spray bar in it, and now I need a new venturi.

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Re: AP Yellow Jacket
« Reply #8 on: October 06, 2012, 09:57:22 AM »
Mine is some where between Hong Kong and New Jersey Lol
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Re: AP Yellow Jacket
« Reply #9 on: October 10, 2012, 05:57:40 PM »
Well my engine arrived today it weighs approx 4.75 oz the 15x weighs approx 2.75oz I am going to see how it runs and depending how that comes out see where I go from there . I bet I could drop 1/3 oz with a venturi instead of the carb . A lot of people used to fly these thins with McCoy 19's with no problems but that decision is a while away maybe an RSM Balloon tank might be in my future.
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Re: AP Yellow Jacket
« Reply #10 on: October 21, 2012, 08:53:24 AM »
Well I ran one of the 15'xs yesterday and really liked it my daughter had ear plugs in and didn't seem at all scared of it, it was running on 10 % nitro 22 % 50/50oil blend 8x4 master airscrew prop. It seems happiest in a wet 2 cycle and has a nice little break. I decided not to re invent the wheel and will use it on my Akromaster. I am also putting together a Flite Streak Trainer and will use a brodak engine mount set up so it can do double duty as a test bed after the kids get bored with it because I have a shoe box full of different 15's & 19's I want to try. Thanks for all the suggestions.T.J.
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Re: AP Yellow Jacket
« Reply #11 on: October 21, 2012, 09:02:32 AM »
I think a profi 15 and a bladder tank would be a good match for the acromaster VD~

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Re: AP Yellow Jacket
« Reply #12 on: June 29, 2013, 08:07:46 AM »
Well I finally got around to running this engine a bit on the stand ,it is super smooth and very quiet and seems to have a little more pull than a 15x. I am running it with the carb wired open I like how the needle valve is angled back towards the head and I plan on making a Just Engines style venturi for it , with such a short snout your fingers would be really close to the prop otherwise. I think it going to be a great engine for my flite streak trainer since it is so quiet my nephews will be able to hear instructions at the handle no problem.My daughter has been doing so good with the Sig Buster I think she is already advanced enough the she will be bored with the Flite Streak Trainer. T.J.
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