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Best 36 size Combat plane?
« on: September 29, 2021, 01:29:08 AM »
What would be some suggestions for the best flying, best designed and best looking 36 size combat plane?
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Re: Best 36 size Combat plane?
« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2021, 09:49:25 AM »
What would be some suggestions for the best flying, best designed and best looking 36 size combat plane?
Kevin
What era?  Best looking - old time - Flight Streak, best designed/flying - 60's Sneaker.
I am not fluent in current designs.

Worst in all categories - T-Square

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Re: Best 36 size Combat plane?
« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2021, 10:58:30 AM »
Nemesis 2  Ain't bad.


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Re: Best 36 size Combat plane?
« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2021, 03:45:34 PM »
I'll nominate my Psycho III circa 2012.  (sorry for calcuation errors)  I had the privilege of flying a couple practice matches with Don Cranfill(God rest his soul) , probably at the 2011 NATS.  We had a good match.  I got a couple of quick cuts prompting him to something like "how'd you do that" and then came back with a kill.  Don was very smart and experienced.

The Psycho III has a 54in. span, wing area of 540 squares.  The aspect ratio is 5.4. The span loading is 0.5 oz/in.   The wing loading is 0.41 oz/sq.in.  The root chord
 is 12.5 in., the tip 7.5.  It makes for a pretty plane.  It's big advantage is that with the high aspect ratio the plane bogs down less in maneuvers.     

With a decent Nelson, which I still have, it goes well over 100 mph on 15% fuel and an 8/5 Apc prop.  28,000 rpm.  Henry will probably chew me out!  The only problem is the rpm starts to destroy the prop reinforcing.  So after4-5 flights just bend the blade .  If it breaks, throw it away. Looking closely you can see very thin flex marks building up around mid blade.

Just for a compare, at 16 oz. 340 squares- A meticulously built nemesis 39in. span Nemesis, very light, carries 0.047sq.in./oz  The aspect ratio is about 4.5.  The span loading .48-.5 oz./in. 

The span loading, a measure of maneuver drag build up as the wing turns harder.

Just fix my arithmetic, please don't complain!  I've had enough trouble last spring to last me the rest of my life!
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Re: Best 36 size Combat plane?
« Reply #4 on: September 29, 2021, 05:27:26 PM »
Best looking, easy  - Bosta.
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Re: Best 36 size Combat plane?
« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2021, 06:43:15 AM »
Going back to the Vintage era, Howard's Nemesis(both) probably best overall performing! Coolest looking is probably Scarinzi's Werewolf. Current models are superior in performance but are more of function and not of looks. I agree with Pat, the Bosta is another good looking bird. 60's era slow combat you can't beat a flite streak!! I have to mention  my favorite the Super Satan! The first of the high aspect wing combat planes of the mid to late sixties. Phil's Psycho is a very good flying modern plane that one can aquire and build.

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Re: Best 36 size Combat plane?
« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2021, 11:01:52 AM »
Best looking old time  Lancer
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Re: Best 36 size Combat plane?
« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2021, 04:01:00 PM »
Carl Berryman's Super Twister was another good looker.

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Re: Best 36 size Combat plane?
« Reply #8 on: October 01, 2021, 05:53:26 AM »
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Re: Best 36 size Combat plane?
« Reply #9 on: October 01, 2021, 09:10:20 AM »
Sweet Sweep  is one of the best looking combat planes. Doesn't fly bad either. But I would think newer engines might blow it apart.
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Re: Best 36 size Combat plane?
« Reply #10 on: October 01, 2021, 09:38:05 AM »
Hunt has an electric sweet sweep. He loves the way it flys. It really looks like a B52 in the air. Vey cool!!!
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Re: Best 36 size Combat plane?
« Reply #11 on: October 03, 2021, 01:04:57 PM »
 I vote for the super twister as it was the model I used for a log time. I found it to be fast as it was small. It looks fragile put it held up well.
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Re: Best 36 size Combat plane?
« Reply #12 on: October 03, 2021, 02:24:26 PM »
Remember, the life span of a combat plane could be well under five minutes.  It was NOT a beauty contest.

A pair of Combat Cats (two for $4.95) was a good buy in 1964 and a better flyer than a Double Voodoo. Of course, you needed to center the engine mount.

Based on my visits to England in 1974 and 1976 I was made to believe that Richard Wilkin's Superstar was the best design of it's time.  I used them in five different events (fast, slow, FAI, 1/2A and Fox 35).


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Re: Best 36 size Combat plane?
« Reply #13 on: October 03, 2021, 03:00:41 PM »
.......... I agree with Pat, the Bosta is another good looking bird. .........
I have to agree with Tom, despite the bribery,. the Bosta is probably the best looking design.  It also was amazingly strong for a fast ship flying over grass.  I've seen several go straight in with very minimal damage.  The build time was  slower and more critical than tapered wings.  The Bosta, even with a jig, took longer to build.  The best you could do was build a couple of jigs and a mold - one to frame the plane, and the other to shape the wing leading edge sheeting.

Phil's Psycho is a very good flying modern plane that one can aquire and build.

IMHO,
Tom
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Re: Best 36 size Combat plane?
« Reply #14 on: October 04, 2021, 06:24:30 PM »
Super Satan  VD~ and The Slasher  ;D
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Re: Best 36 size Combat plane?
« Reply #15 on: October 04, 2021, 10:22:23 PM »
My favorite model from the early "80s was the Buckstaff  "Mirage" , it flew under other names. It had an airfoil more like a stunt model. With it's vertical spar, it was an easy model to rebuild.  The leading edge sheeting, ribs and seemed to come and go, but the center section lived on.  Stubblefield flew a couple of Buckstaff's  original models at the Oklahoma city contest a few weeks ago.

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Re: Best 36 size Combat plane?
« Reply #16 on: Yesterday at 12:59:06 AM »
How about my Challenger. Looks good two.
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