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Old kit Super Ringmaster
« on: September 26, 2018, 02:52:16 PM »
Just for the big flyathon for Ringmasters.  OLD Sterling kit, Super Ringmaster, missing parts, now fabricated.  Reminds me of the car Donald Duck drives, pure caricature. D>K LL~
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Re: Ringy thingy
« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2018, 10:14:00 AM »
Well I tried to find a picture of my Super Ringmaster.  It was a scratch build using Baxter plans(Now Bob Mears has them).  I hope to get at least a flight on each of my Ringmasters plus variant.   Looks like you are doing good. H^^
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Re: Ringy thingy
« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2018, 07:41:00 PM »
Kit was advertised as missing stuff.  So I had to make a TE, LE, main spar, cut three ribs, repair two ribs, replaced the sorry motor mounts, bent wire for the  landing gear, supply the "J" bolts, all of which was no problem and I have done this before on other kits. All part of building older kits.   Now to find some proper wheels, a bell crank ( I have dozens in a box) and see if I can replicate the box art.  So far I have an old McCoy .19 red head set aside as well and on OS .25 FP (which may be too  much power)  for this little thing. I have a few OS LA .20's in the "back room", could use one of those.  All this for a few flights, on one day, soon. Then, on the wall, like all the others. H^^ LL~
Bring it to BR

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Re: Ringy thingy
« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2018, 08:58:03 PM »
Hi Jamie.  I will if it is finished in time. So far things are progressing.   D>K
I need to dig in my closet. I bought a super ringmaster kit from a guy online forever ago.... what i recieved was a box with the "drawings/instructions". 2 different set of ribs. Fuse sides.. some formers.. and bunch of other random balsa. Need to take it out and see whats up with it

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Re: Ringy thingy
« Reply #4 on: September 29, 2018, 10:52:22 AM »
Some progress and the epoxy bottle trick.
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Re: Ringy thingy
« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2018, 03:46:13 PM »
Well, this is a typical Sterling kit. Nothing lines up.
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Re: Ringy thingy
« Reply #6 on: October 03, 2018, 03:47:27 PM »
Well, this is a typical Sterling kit. Nothing lines up. Lots of cutting, trimming and sanding.  But wing  is installed, covered, doped and fillets in place. Sides of the turtle deck are in.  Now for the top,

stab/elevator, rudder, pants and wheels. Oh yes forgot, I have to paint the darn thing in time for Saturday Ring Master fly in..... It may just fly in clear. LL~ LL~ LL~
You have sunday as well :)

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Re: Ringy thingy
« Reply #7 on: October 05, 2018, 01:26:27 PM »
Some progress on a pain in the neck.
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Re: Ringy thingy
« Reply #8 on: October 05, 2018, 01:26:59 PM »
Front view.  Rather light in weight as of now. Still needs fuselage covered and painted. Not sure of the scheme, but more likely the box art. H^^
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Re: Ringy thingy
« Reply #9 on: October 05, 2018, 01:28:03 PM »
Lookin good!!

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Re: Old kit Super Ringmaster
« Reply #10 on: November 08, 2018, 11:31:44 AM »
Simple, quick and poor paint job. 30.8 oz RTF.
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Re: Old kit Super Ringmaster
« Reply #11 on: November 08, 2018, 11:33:15 AM »
Cock pit window gave me fits.
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Re: Old kit Super Ringmaster
« Reply #12 on: November 08, 2018, 01:55:59 PM »
Cock pit window gave me fits. I gave up. NOT important enough to worry about a plane used for a few round and round flights. LL~ LL~ LL~
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Ty,

We always heat formed them around a bottle. Today a soda can would probably do just as good. A thinner piece of plastic would not hurt either.

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Re: Old kit Super Ringmaster
« Reply #13 on: November 08, 2018, 02:03:43 PM »


Back in mid 1970 I had similar problems with my first Smoothie.
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Re: Old kit Super Ringmaster
« Reply #14 on: November 08, 2018, 08:45:34 PM »
Ty,

I keep posting this picture of my Super not because it is the best one ever made but because it can with some rework be made to look better than it looks on the box. Granted this is a Pat king kit and the Sterling kit was really bad we still did get them together and flew them overweight that they were.I still had to cut the pattern for the windshield and make it fitfor Pats kit. The Sterling pattern needed some rework also.
I actually had been at the Sterling plant about 4 times as a teenager. Ed Manaulkin was a nice guy and even took the time to show me that making kits was not the route to becoming Jeff Bezos. Most businesses bought the wood they could afford and still make a living. It will still fly the old timer pattern.

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Re: Old kit Super Ringmaster
« Reply #15 on: November 09, 2018, 05:43:18 AM »
Yes, very challenging to build. I had to make all new plywood parts but otherwise used all kit wood. 28oz with Fox .35. Will do a loose version of AMA pattern. Fun!  Sorry, no picture.  TS

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Re: Old kit Super Ringmaster
« Reply #16 on: November 09, 2018, 11:38:40 AM »
Hi Dennis.  Very nice looking Super Ringmaster.
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Re: Old kit Super Ringmaster
« Reply #17 on: November 09, 2018, 12:53:03 PM »
I scratch built mine and substituted 1/64 ply for the wind screen.  Besides it is plane that brings back a lot of memories. D>K
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Re: Old kit Super Ringmaster
« Reply #18 on: November 09, 2018, 02:20:40 PM »
Hi Dennis.  Very nice looking Super Ringmaster.  I have to admit that I was in a hurry to try to finish it in time for the Ringmaster Flyathon but got behind. Thus a sorry looking model. I do have a different kit of the Super Ringmaster, forget who put it out, but a much nicer kit. Will soon see.  D>K


Ty,

That was a few years ago. It was made by a person that used to work for Sterling models if my memory is still working. It was offered as a CL or an RC version. From what i heard and saw in the ads
they were nice kits. Probably slow sales killed them off.

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Re: Old kit Super Ringmaster
« Reply #19 on: November 10, 2018, 10:05:22 AM »
My other kit is by Micro-Scale Models. 
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Re: Old kit Super Ringmaster
« Reply #20 on: November 10, 2018, 10:36:19 AM »
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Re: Old kit Super Ringmaster
« Reply #21 on: December 26, 2018, 07:09:57 PM »
Maybe not...

http://micro-scale.com/catalog/airplane-kits/
Has anyone built any of the Micro-Scale Super ringmasters.
 If so how were they when building. Pro /cons, wood quality
They look good.Like their color schemes.

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Re: Old kit Super Ringmaster
« Reply #22 on: December 26, 2018, 08:03:15 PM »
Micro Scale will no longer be making the kit. A few are still available only thru e-bay
I have purchased 2 but have not even opened the boxs yet
https://www.ebay.com/itm/323581251548?ViewItem=&item=323581251548
 

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Re: Old kit Super Ringmaster
« Reply #23 on: December 26, 2018, 09:55:39 PM »
Thanks Kevin.

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Re: Old kit Super Ringmaster
« Reply #24 on: December 29, 2018, 11:52:27 AM »
I found their site and it seems they are into HO model railroading and the  Super Ringmaster was a one time deal. It can be assembled as IC or Electric.  Looks to be easier to build than the Sterling version and it is laser cut.. D>K
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Re: Old kit Super Ringmaster
« Reply #25 on: December 29, 2018, 04:24:50 PM »
Some photos of the kit.
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Re: Old kit Super Ringmaster
« Reply #26 on: December 29, 2018, 04:25:22 PM »
More.
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Re: Old kit Super Ringmaster
« Reply #27 on: December 29, 2018, 04:26:03 PM »
Hardware.
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Re: Old kit Super Ringmaster
« Reply #28 on: December 29, 2018, 04:26:56 PM »
Supplied decal, etc.
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Re: Old kit Super Ringmaster
« Reply #29 on: December 29, 2018, 10:45:51 PM »
Note that the wing of the MSM Super Ringmaster has a sheeted leading edge wing construction like the S-1A, not a formed leading edge like the original Sterling kit.
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Re: Old kit Super Ringmaster
« Reply #30 on: December 30, 2018, 01:19:23 PM »
Simple, quick and poor paint job. 30.8 oz RTF.

Hi Ty,
That looks really good for a model but from a started old kit!  Nice job and pleased to see you didn't just pitch in the trash.  I built a bunch of them years ago and power then with McCoys and flew the heck out of them. 

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Re: Old kit Super Ringmaster
« Reply #31 on: December 30, 2018, 08:39:50 PM »
    What size tank can you get in these things? At least 4 ounces with out too much cramming? I have at least one original kit, I think. If the air foil is still classic legal it would make a nice small Classic airplane to toss in the car. Even with a FP or LA.25 in it, you would need between 3 and 4 ounces for the full pattern unless the model was pretty light and you could choke the venturi down some.
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Re: Old kit Super Ringmaster
« Reply #32 on: December 31, 2018, 02:38:20 PM »
My Sterling Super  Ring Master has a 3 1/2 oz tank in it.  With an OS .25LA, I think it will do the AMA pattern in Classic. But as I have yet to fly the beast, who knows for sure?  D>K D>K
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Re: Old kit Super Ringmaster
« Reply #33 on: December 31, 2018, 11:17:50 PM »
My Sterling Super  Ring Master has a 3 1/2 oz tank in it.  With an OS .25LA, I think it will do the AMA pattern in Classic. But as I have yet to fly the beast, who knows for sure?  D>K D>K
   
  I think when you get ready for the first flights, be cautious and have the stop watch ready. My experience with the LA.25 on bigger models is that they use more fuel when you have to turn bigger props. # 1/2 ounces will be borderline. A couple of locals were running them on Ringmasters with 3 ounce Hayes tanks, and they would barely get OTS pattern in. As the saying goes, your mileage may vary, given your area and altitude.
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Re: Old kit Super Ringmaster
« Reply #34 on: January 03, 2019, 08:38:16 AM »
I'm building the MSM Super Ringmaster for a friend. Good balsa, good laser cutting- and then you have to sand off all of the freaking burned edges! Good parts fit, good hardware- wheels included- instructions are quite poor. The airplane's nose is odd-looking, for some reason. Another weird item is that the stabilizer and elevator are the same size. I was certain that Ringmasters had a larger elevator than it's stabilizer. Hmmm. Let's see if I am able to get a picture to stick. If not, it looks like a Super Ringmaster, without covering or color. Oh, McCoy. 35 for power.
I will build it. It's gonna be really difficult to find me with an ARF. I know every bit of my airplane!

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Re: Old kit Super Ringmaster
« Reply #35 on: January 03, 2019, 10:04:07 AM »
Looking at the picture that plane is far from the original Sterling kit in which I had one way back then.  Now have one that is scratch built from Baxter plans now owned by Bob Mears if I remember right. 
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Re: Old kit Super Ringmaster
« Reply #36 on: January 03, 2019, 10:50:06 AM »
The Ringmaster stab and elevator are the same, not unlike the Barnstormer. The kit was not intended to be Classic legal and overall is easier to construct.  I like the fact that one can do it either electric or IC, it is laser cut and jigged much better than the original.  But no matter how one looks at it, it is still a Donald Duck or Mickey Mouse looking airplane, very much like the cars they drive in the cartoons. Pure caricature. LL~
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Re: Old kit Super Ringmaster
« Reply #37 on: January 05, 2019, 04:11:59 PM »
Nah, ....it wasn't supposed to be a caricature.

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