What would be a good engine/prop combo for a Chizler? Article states it is designed to fly about 45 mph. Are there any current engines that will run well while flying the plane at that speed? Also doesn't look like there is a lot of ground clearance for large props...

thanks,
Ken

Ken,

What Bill said.  Also you may want to try an LA 25 it should haul it around nicely and you can go to a lower pitch prop to slow it down.

My first choice would be the Fox though.

I think the original ran a Tornado 3 blade....   ?9x6 
Jim

I think the original ran a Tornado 3 blade....   ?9x6 
Jim

Hi Jim,

Richard did have a 3 bld. gray Tornado on it for the article pictures.  I guess I could go check out the pictures of it on the PAMPA site......

He flew it in 3 NATS, but I'm not sure if there were 1 or 2 different Chizlers.  The first one had the red Jap Tissue finish on it.  Then I think Dick painted it and maybe built another one.

Bill <><

Hi Jim,

Richard did have a 3 bld. gray Tornado on it for the article pictures.  I guess I could go check out the pictures of it on the PAMPA site......

He flew it in 3 NATS, but I'm not sure if there were 1 or 2 different Chizlers.  The first one had the red Jap Tissue finish on it.  Then I think Dick painted it and maybe built another one.

Bill <><

Here is what I know about the original Chizler that Dick Mathis published in Flying Models.

The original was finished in red jap tissue with a clear dope finish.  Trim was with black tissue under the clear dope.   This is the one that is in the pictures in the magazine article and is the way it looked when he placed second at the 67 Nats (Los Alamitos).  He later painted that same model white with red and blue trim.  This is what he flew (the same model) at the 68 Nats (Olathe).  When he published the design and when he flew it at the 67 Nats and maybe the 68 Nats, he was using a 3-blade Tornado prop, (like the old gray ones).  I may be mistaken, but I am fairly certain that he used a 10-4 cut down to something around a 9 inch diameter.  That is about all the Fox 35 could turn  of those 3-blade props, but it gave him the lap times he was looking for.  (In the pictures, the blades look very wide.  Thisis what happens when you cut the tips off of those three blade props.)  Basically, it had a Nobler wing.  His article even suggests that you could use a wing from a Nobler kit.  However, I think the magazine plans showed an airfoil that was slightly thicker.  The airplane is a supurb performer. 

Dick had several later versions, one which he experimented with retracting gear.

RSM now puts out a supurb kit of this.  The plans for the kit were approved by Dick Mathis

I have had two and hope to have another someday to use for Classic.  I used an OS 35S as reworked by Tom Lay.  I used a Brian Ether three blade carbon prop, about a 10/5.5 cut down to around 9.5 inches.  It really worked well for me.  I really feel that it is one of the best airplanes I have flown.  This is the way I felt about the two Chizlers I had as well as the Chizler that Ted Fancer has (still) which I have flown on several occasions.

Keith

Ted's Chizler flies exceptionally well. He had an OS35S with a Grish Tornado 3 blade. Could have been a cut down 10x6 or a 9x6. The engine fried, unfortunately, but the plane flew very well.