Author Topic: sbd (Read 4460 times)

roger · « **on:** April 18, 2013, 09:13:10 PM »

back in 06 in another forum , was an article about a profile dauntless. i would like to get a set of those plans. any body know where?

bill bischoff · « **Reply #1 on:** April 18, 2013, 10:51:09 PM »

Was it for carrier or stunt? If it was stunt, it may have been one of Don Hutchinson's. He has done quite a few very attractive profile warbirds, and he's a member here. Gerry Deneau published a .15 profile carrier Dauntless in Model Aviation in the late 80's, but I don't remember any for .36 profile carrier.

roger · « **Reply #2 on:** April 19, 2013, 02:01:44 PM »

no it was justa sport flyer for a 40 motor doc holliday may know maybe john bocksnick or don hutch thanks

Balsa Butcher · « **Reply #3 on:** April 19, 2013, 02:39:29 PM »

That is probably Don Hutchinson's SBD. Plans and short kits are currently available from Jim Snelson at Control Line Central. Don has campaigned his in Profile Stunt. I built the kit prototype. It is an excellent flier. Pictures of the one I built for Jim are posted in the CLC vendor forum thread "Don Hutchinson Warbirds".

roger · « **Reply #4 on:** April 19, 2013, 02:45:12 PM »

ahh shoot just wanted the plans...

roger · « **Reply #5 on:** April 20, 2013, 08:37:13 AM »

dose any body have a set of these plans the coud sell me? since those are not sold by hutch himself at clc.

bill bischoff · « **Reply #6 on:** April 20, 2013, 10:13:29 AM »

Did you contact Don Hutchinson directly? He's on here so you could PM him.

roger · « **Reply #7 on:** April 20, 2013, 12:22:48 PM »

mr. d. hutchinson i hope you get this note, would you sell me a set of your plans for the sbd.and how much? roger

Balsa Butcher · « **Reply #8 on:** April 20, 2013, 03:35:23 PM »

As I stated in my post...plans and short kits are available through CLC. They are currently marketing many of Don's warbird designs to include the SBD. I recommend you purchase the short kit. It will make it a lot easier to build. This is a great design but not necessarily for beginner modelers and the many lazar cut parts will definitely help. For more details refer to the Control Line Central web site.

roger · « **Reply #9 on:** April 20, 2013, 09:34:05 PM »

@wow nice plane.... but there is no sbd on that web for plans that i see

roger

Balsa Butcher · « **Reply #10 on:** April 20, 2013, 10:16:10 PM »

You are right, my apologies. Other Don Hutch plans are listed however only the short kit is shown for the Dauntless. It would be worth a try to contact CLC and see if the plans can be purchased separately.

Mike Anderson · « **Reply #11 on:** April 20, 2013, 10:32:15 PM »

Control Line Central has been out of commission - though not officially dead - for over a year. The last word came in a thread dated March 11 in the Open Forum:

http://stunthanger.com/smf/index.php?topic=30738.0

that he hoped to have things up and running again soon. Is there any news since then?

Randy Bush · « **Reply #12 on:** April 21, 2013, 03:25:04 PM »

Duane Roach, Alameda Aer-O-Nuts, built a nice SBD profile. I'll try to locate a source of plans, and let you know.
Randy

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roger · « **Reply #13 on:** April 21, 2013, 04:45:54 PM »

is that built from dons plans or his kit?

Randy Bush · « **Reply #14 on:** April 21, 2013, 04:56:40 PM »

Quote from: roger on April 21, 2013, 04:45:54 PM

is that built from dons plans or his kit?

Duane says he built it from Larry Richard's plans -- no kit.

I just now traded emails with Larry Richards. He says:
"I use to make this kit but I believe I sold off the rights to that kit to Walter Umland? It is a great flying plane. I also do not have any kits left of it. I sold 23 kits so I know of about 4 guys that actually built it and the rest is 'Closet Collection". You might try on Stuka Stunt or Stunt hangar for someone willing to sell their kit. Larry"

It is clearly a carrier design -- not stunt. Duane built his as per plan except to shorten the nose a bit. It's his current favorite for flight qualities.

Randy

Randy Bush · « **Reply #15 on:** April 21, 2013, 05:20:31 PM »

Here's some info about the Don Hutchinson's warbirds:
http://www.clstunt.com/htdocs/dc/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=103&topic_id=321721&mesg_id=321721&page=10

500 square inches is bigger than I would want for carrier.

Balsa Butcher · « **Reply #16 on:** April 21, 2013, 05:44:08 PM »

As far as CLC goes - yes he is still in business albeit at a reduced capacity. They had a sales booth at VSC and hope to be taking and filling orders later this year. A note or call from Roger should get a reply. The .15 sized Dauntless profile carrier (shown) is worth a look also. Two sheets, much detail, very scale like. AMA plans service Plan #458, November 1984. I imagine it could be scaled up to a .35 sized fairly easily.

Balsa Butcher · « **Reply #17 on:** April 21, 2013, 06:08:15 PM »

If you are looking for a carrier plane, either the Larry Richards Dauntless or the .15 Dauntless shown above would be a better choice than Don Hutchinson's version. It is a sport/stunt plane, not a carrier design. And Randy, let me know when the carrier sails into Port Alameda. I'll dust off some planes and join ya.

roger · « **Reply #18 on:** April 21, 2013, 10:01:54 PM »

hey mr umland do you have the plans for dons sbd?

Balsa Butcher · « **Reply #19 on:** April 21, 2013, 11:02:44 PM »

Roger, Buddie...a responder mentioned that Walter may have plans for Larry Richard's SBD, not Don's. Jim Snelson at CLC is the sole distributor of Don Hutchinson's SBD plans unless a forum member wants to send you a copy. I don't have a stake in this but do know the parties involved and some back story. Again, Don's SBD is not a carrier model and the toughest one of the bunch to build (split flaps, dihedral, built up fuselage). Are you sure this is the one you want?

roger · « **Reply #20 on:** April 22, 2013, 08:59:03 AM »

H^^well all this trouble maybe ill just forget it. thanks all roger.

bill bischoff · « **Reply #21 on:** April 22, 2013, 05:21:26 PM »

Send Don Hutchinson a personal message. Click on "MEMBERS" above, search for him by name, and click on "send this member a personal message".
He may not ever look at the carrier section, so the only way to make sure he sees it is send the message directly to him.

wwwarbird · « **Reply #22 on:** April 22, 2013, 07:35:24 PM »

Quote from: roger on April 22, 2013, 08:59:03 AM

H^^well all this trouble maybe ill just forget it. thanks all roger.

Not much trouble at all if you'd just read what the guys are telling you.

roger · « **Reply #23 on:** April 26, 2013, 07:10:05 PM »

balsa butcher
the split flaps dont work and the dehdral is no problem nor the builtup fuse. cause its a profile

roger · « **Reply #24 on:** May 06, 2013, 04:13:43 PM »

any other shots of that skelton sbd awsome..

Randy Bush · « **Reply #25 on:** May 06, 2013, 04:30:02 PM »

Quote from: roger on May 06, 2013, 04:13:43 PM

any other shots of that skelton sbd awsome..

Roger,
I don't understand. Please clarify.
Randy

Balsa Butcher · « **Reply #26 on:** May 09, 2013, 06:18:02 PM »

I think he is referring to the built up profile construction of Don's SBD. And yes, the split flaps do work, dihedral and all. Quite well in fact.

roger · « **Reply #27 on:** May 11, 2013, 10:55:02 AM »

i started to look over the plans on the sbd , and when i looked at the pic. on the site , the fuse. pic. dose not match with the plans. it dose not show the fuse. having several parts. can you correct me on this...
roger

Balsa Butcher · « **Reply #28 on:** May 12, 2013, 12:17:20 AM »

Well, it's a built up profile fuselage so it does have several parts. After completing the inner structure it is sheeted with 1/16' balsa. The picture was taken during the build. It was a while ago and the pieces may just have been placed roughly in position. But so as not to add further confusion...it's gone. In the remaining picture, the tail wheel assembly is not yet in the correct postion.

roger · « **Reply #29 on:** May 12, 2013, 09:04:34 AM »

well i dont want to show my stupidity but the plans show a single unit , the pic. shows , parts and peices , like a puzzle . they dont show where to cut it up. oh well ill do the best i can.

roger