I think you can and should add all the NEW events you want.

In no case should you ever try to mix piston and electric power in the same event.  Piston engine modelers have supported these events for 60+ years.  DO NOT try to hyjack them.  Start your own new event.

Seems to me that the "hijackers" are basically the same guys who are actually competing in Carrier today, so I'm not sure if you can hijack yourself!
I think the rubber guys felt the same way back in the 40's (? or was it earlier) when gas motors invaded their turf.

Seems to me that the "hijackers" are basically the same guys who are actually competing in Carrier today, so I'm not sure if you can hijack yourself!
I think the rubber guys felt the same way back in the 40's (? or was it earlier) when gas motors invaded their turf.

Rubber Free Flight and Gliders are still seperate events from gas engines.....  as electric must ALWAYS be.

If electric events can't stand on their own,  they have no place in modeling.

 

I think you can and should add all the NEW events you want.

In no case should you ever try to mix piston and electric power in the same event.  Piston engine modelers have supported these events for 60+ years.  DO NOT try to hyjack them.  Start your own new event.

Of course electrics should be flown in the same classes together with IC. No doubt about it.... F3A and F2B are good examples here.

Variety is the spice of life.  I have no problem with those who want to go electric.  They deserve their own event.  But they need to be seperate events.  I think that there is no real way to establish equivalence between electric and IC.  Power is the determining factor.  It's fairly simple to determine with electric, volts x amps.  IC is a little harder, that's why you don't see real HP ratings on IC engines.  Electrics are easily classified by Watts, and it's very easy to measure displacement on an IC engine.

Keep 'em in their own classes.  Electric will die out when the "newness" wears off, and people get tired of the battery life and cost anyhow.  And don't forget the "latest wind" syndrome that pretty much killed slot cars and R/C electric cars. 

I would like to see the electrics by them selves. To hard to manage gas and electric together.
Thanks
wayne Buran

I'm really glad to see the discussion of the proposed rules. That was the intent when they were drawn up, to get people talking and gather input. Remember that this is a trial period for electric carrier. We want to get people involved and flying the event to gather further data for the future of the event and how it will be eventually incorporated into the official rules cycle. This won't start to happen for at least 2 years.

Here are a couple of excerpts from the proposal that are very important:

"They are to become the "electric carrier rules" maintained by the NCS.
They will be the rules used for the 2008 contest season for unofficial competitions, including the
unofficial events at the Nats. We decided not to submit our rules to AMA as Provisional rules
during this rules cycle as we had no experience with the events. This can be reviewed in two
years for the next cycle."

Note that it says  UNOFFICIAL COMPETITIONS, this is to gain experience with the capabilities of the electric systems.

Also:

"Then contest
directors can either combine the electric and gas events or keep them separate, as they choose."

It will be up to the CD to determine how these unofficial events will initially be integrated into each competition.

When there is more data and experience on how electrics perform we can then better judge how to proceed.

I would like to encourage anyone who is interested in this new, and exciting, variation of a very fun and enjoyable event to take the plunge and try something new. I am currently building a 36 profile sized electric to see how what I have learned with the smaller 15 sized plane scales up in performance. I think it will be an interesting project.

There is another forum with some good information at:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cl_carrier/

You must sign up to Yahoo newsgroups (which is free) to view and post. There has already been a lot of discussion and technical background published here. Give it a look.

Good luck and start builing!!!

Bob

It was a failed attempt at identity theft. I didn't do it!!!!!!! I'm innocent.