Author Topic: Profile 2013 Build complete (Read 3427 times)

Wayne J. Buran · « **on:** November 15, 2012, 01:22:06 PM »

Well, I finally finished my 2013 Profile Guardian. I have continued with the highly modified Brodak Guardian kit. Previous changes were a reduction of the stock span by the two outer bays, shrink the airfoil, moved the wing forward a half an inch and changed the stab, elevator and rudder to reflect the early production AF2S. Commonly called the "Round Tail version. It's equiped with an Irvine .36 ABC that has an OS4BK installed. It also has a standard Brodak three line system. It carries six ounces of fuel in a Brodak standard wedge ATF tank. New changes for this year includes spruce spars, 3/32 ribs and wing sheeting. It's covered totally with Brodak dark blue covering. I also switched to dropping the hook with the up line. It weighs 48 ounces dry. I will try to post some pictures.
Thanks
Wayne

Joe Just · « **Reply #1 on:** November 15, 2012, 07:19:59 PM »

Wayne, Great loking plane! What Brodak film are you using?
Joe

Wayne J. Buran · « **Reply #2 on:** November 15, 2012, 07:59:33 PM »

BH-1802 Dark Blue
Thanks
Wayne

Jim Oliver · « **Reply #3 on:** November 15, 2012, 09:13:32 PM »

Wayne,
How does the Brodak film compare to M.C. and U.C.?

Thanks,
Jim

roger · « **Reply #4 on:** November 15, 2012, 10:42:17 PM »

nice work but wrong decals...........

Wayne J. Buran · « **Reply #5 on:** November 16, 2012, 04:27:19 AM »

Quote from: roger on November 15, 2012, 10:42:17 PM

nice work but wrong decals...........

How do you figure, see page 10, Grumman AF Guardian, Naval Fighters #20.
Wayne

Wayne J. Buran · « **Reply #6 on:** November 16, 2012, 04:31:45 AM »

Quote from: Jim Oliver on November 15, 2012, 09:13:32 PM

Wayne,
How does the Brodak film compare to M.C. and U.C.?

Thanks,
Jim

Jim, my only other experiance with other films has been Monokote and I find that it works easier than Monokote especially around corners. I seal as many edges as I can with Trim Solvent. This is the only airplane I have done so far that is totally covered. I am to old for paint anymore. We will see this summer.
Thanks
Wayne

john e. holliday · « **Reply #7 on:** November 16, 2012, 09:00:30 AM »

Looks great and I hope it does well for you.

Bob Heywood · « **Reply #8 on:** November 17, 2012, 03:37:32 AM »

Slick...!

skyshark58 · « **Reply #9 on:** November 17, 2012, 10:58:26 AM »

Nice job Wayne! Correct decals too. The change to the red bar happened in the late fortys so both styles were used on the early Guardians. Seems like if they were unpainted they had no red bar and if they were blue they did. Of course as with all military paint schemes there will be variations. Mike

Balsa Butcher · « **Reply #10 on:** November 17, 2012, 05:57:35 PM »

Looks good Wayne. I notice you are still using "The Device" for hook release. Glad it works for you. I may have to build my Brodak Guardian this winter, it's been on the list now for about 3 years.

Wayne J. Buran · « **Reply #11 on:** November 18, 2012, 04:07:38 AM »

Quote from: skyshark58 on November 17, 2012, 10:58:26 AM

Nice job Wayne! Correct decals too. The change to the red bar happened in the late fortys so both styles were used on the early Guardians. Seems like if they were unpainted they had no red bar and if they were blue they did. Of course as with all military paint schemes there will be variations. Mike

The Blue and White star and bar was used from 9/43-1/47. The red stripe was added 1/47 until camo started coming in. The first prototype #90504 was seen with both insignia in early 1948 which was pictured in the previously mentioned book.
Thanks
Wayne

Paul Smith · « **Reply #12 on:** November 19, 2012, 06:15:00 AM »

Speaking of decals, it would be nice if somebody offered 48-star American flags so we could use them on pre-1960 models.

Wayne J. Buran · « **Reply #13 on:** November 19, 2012, 12:50:12 PM »

good Idea, I'm with you Paul. I cant believe there is't one although I have yet to see one. What should the dimnsions be.
Thanks
Wayne

Wayne J. Buran · « **Reply #14 on:** November 19, 2012, 12:52:59 PM »

Quote from: Balsa Butcher on November 17, 2012, 05:57:35 PM

Looks good Wayne. I notice you are still using "The Device" for hook release. Glad it works for you. I may have to build my Brodak Guardian this winter, it's been on the list now for about 3 years.

I didnt use the spring device this time. I changed it to a simple rod attached to the elevator horn so I could release on up. I think this might work better.
Thanks
Wayne

john e. holliday · « **Reply #15 on:** November 20, 2012, 08:52:01 AM »

Quote from: Paul Smith on November 19, 2012, 06:15:00 AM

Speaking of decals, it would be nice if somebody offered 48-star American flags so we could use them on pre-1960 models.

I think you make decals/stick ons. Anyway to see the 48 star flags as well as others, go to www.law.ou.edu/ushistory/flags/ .

Mike Anderson · « **Reply #16 on:** November 20, 2012, 09:05:48 AM »

Quote from: Wayne J. Buran on November 19, 2012, 12:50:12 PM

good Idea, I'm with you Paul. I cant believe there is't one although I have yet to see one. What should the dimnsions be.
Thanks
Wayne

Someone should check with CFC Graphics - in the vendors corner.

david smith · « **Reply #17 on:** November 20, 2012, 01:47:34 PM »

Quote from: Mike Anderson on November 20, 2012, 09:05:48 AM

Someone should check with CFC Graphics - in the vendors corner.

Lets just say that based on my personal experience I would not recommend CFC Graphics for anything.

Edited to be nice....

Mike Anderson · « **Reply #18 on:** November 20, 2012, 08:14:37 PM »

OK -- noted.

skyshark58 · « **Reply #19 on:** November 20, 2012, 10:18:17 PM »

SIG has both star and bar decals and flag decals too! http://www.sigmfg.com/ Mike

Wayne J. Buran · « **Reply #20 on:** November 21, 2012, 06:45:55 AM »

I'll try some more pictures.
Thanks
Wayne

david smith · « **Reply #21 on:** November 21, 2012, 08:29:27 AM »

That is a great looking plane Wayne! I wish I could put monocote on that well. I have used monocote but I prefer Ultracote, it has seemed more forgiving for me, I think because it uses a lower temp to put it on and shrink it. I like the recessed gear mount.
David

Wayne J. Buran · « **Reply #22 on:** November 21, 2012, 01:28:51 PM »

Truthfully. I don't let anyone stand closer than 5 feet. So it always looks good. BTW it's the Brodak covering, I cant make Monokote work at all when it's time for a radius of any kind.
Wayne

Mike Anderson · « **Reply #23 on:** November 21, 2012, 01:42:06 PM »

Quote from: skyshark58 on November 20, 2012, 10:18:17 PM

SIG has both star and bar decals and flag decals too! http://www.sigmfg.com/ Mike

Don't see any 48 star flags, however, for WWII era.

skyshark58 · « **Reply #24 on:** November 21, 2012, 08:51:33 PM »

You are probably correct but my eyes can't see the difference unless I get out the magnifying glass and squint! Mike

Mike Keville · « **Reply #25 on:** November 21, 2012, 08:57:40 PM »

Quote from: david smith on November 20, 2012, 01:47:34 PM

Lets just say that based on my personal experience I would not recommend CFC Graphics for anything.

Edited to be nice....

...and that would be because . . . ? ? ?

Mike Anderson · « **Reply #26 on:** November 22, 2012, 08:05:46 AM »

Quote from: skyshark58 on November 21, 2012, 08:51:33 PM

You are probably correct but my eyes can't see the difference unless I get out the magnifying glass and squint! Mike

But the original question was specifically about 48 star flag decals, for pre-1960 models. Plain old flag decals are everywhere, of course.

john e. holliday · « **Reply #27 on:** November 22, 2012, 09:30:27 AM »

Mybe some one with the equipment and expertise can take the photo I posted and do something with it. Didn't realize how many stars and bars flags were designed thru the years. Now if Puerto Rico becomes a state. How would you arrange 51 stars?

don Burke · « **Reply #28 on:** November 22, 2012, 10:56:16 AM »

Quote from: john e. holliday on November 22, 2012, 09:30:27 AM

Mybe some one with the equipment and expertise can take the photo I posted and do something with it. Didn't realize how many stars and bars flags were designed thru the years. Now if Puerto Rico becomes a state. How would you arrange 51 stars?

There was a suggestion after Hawaii and Alaska (don't remember in which order) became states that stars be added for new states in the red stripe just below the existing star field. Obviously wasn't adopted!

Chris McMillin · « **Reply #29 on:** November 24, 2012, 11:09:06 AM »

I've used Control Line Central for graphics. Emily does a great job and she's cheap.
She did these Gulf logos and all other stuff. She made a set for me of Chuck Tuckers P-63 with all Phillips logos and race numbers, different fonts, sizes, etc. All custom.
As a matter of fact, she made the Bridi logo on the Kaos in the background from the same sample that Charlie Aviojet couldn't use to do the same job. It came out perfectly.
Chris...

Author Topic: Profile 2013 Build complete (Read 3427 times)

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