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Online Gordon Tarbell

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Full fuselage Bearcat
« on: January 19, 2008, 08:26:32 AM »
Back about 75' I saw a guy testing a full fuselage f8 Bearcat in the parking lot of Sears in Orlando where I used to fly every weekend. I believe it had a rear intake KB 40 . Was this a kit or just a scratch built deal ? Did J Roberts offer a full fuse version or one of the Japenese kit companies.
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Re: Full fuselage Bearcat
« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2008, 12:07:30 PM »
J.Roberts made two scale kits, the Martin AM-1 Mauler and the Chance-Vought F4U Corsair. Consolidated had a Grumman TBF Avenger and a Ryan FG-1 Darkshark. Sterling had the Grumman AF-1 Guardian, but that came around in the mid 60's. These were the only scale made for carrier event kits. The Japanese made quite a variety of scale kits and the one you saw very well could have been one of them or of course scratch built.  Mike
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Re: Full fuselage Bearcat
« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2008, 09:42:25 AM »
I believe that the flyer could have been Gabe Manfredi. If it was, the plane was scratch built. I no longer have Gabe's address, perhaps a look in the phone book might be a possible contact.
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Re: Full fuselage Bearcat
« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2008, 12:18:19 PM »
If memory serves me correct he was an aquaintance of two other flyers (mostly combat and rat race) Jeff Davis and Randy ?---?, they were a few years my senior. I can still vividly remember most of the planes and other flyers of that place. Alot of encouragment and support in the group especially towards younger flyers like my self.
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Re: Full fuselage Bearcat
« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2008, 12:26:27 AM »
There is a guy on eBay that sells plans and he offers the plans WITH ribs and former tracings of the Berkeley/Fox/Sig F8F that is 3/4 inch to 1 foot. It has a wingspan around 29 inches. It is the same size as Keith Trostle's Bearcat.
Berkeley offered a kit in the late forties of a 36 inch Bearcat, too.
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Re: Full fuselage Bearcat
« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2008, 12:04:30 PM »
It's too small for modern (helicopter mode) carrier, but just right for Nostalgia.  I've seen Keith's F-8F and Ron Duly's MO-1 fly.  Both do real well to the old rules.
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Re: Full fuselage Bearcat
« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2008, 12:25:30 PM »
I have a OS 40 VRP powered Texan built from the Berkley/Fox/Sig kit.  Sheeted the wings with 1/16" balsa and then glassed it with 3/4 oz cloth.  Originally built with a OS 40 SR rear intake and flown that way during the period they now refer to as Nostalgia Carrier.  It was an absolute blast coming of the deck.  118 mph high speed wasn't uncommon.  Best low speed was in the 27 mph range.  Landing were a challenge.  Basically cut the throttle at shoulder high and 1/4 lap out.  If it sank too fast, add power and go around.  Generally it would hit about the 3rd line area.  If it didn't pick up a line you could wait til you passed the last line to hit the power cause it came off the deck easily with all the excess HP.

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Re: Full fuselage Bearcat
« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2008, 04:26:04 PM »
Quote from: Ty Marcucci on January 24, 2008, 09:28:07 AM
Hi Chris. 26 1/2" to be exact. It is for .15 to .19 engines. Don McGovern design. 1958. I have the kit. Great plans, but way too small  for Carrier I.

Maybe Ty,
But one could blow up the plans.
Keith flies his really well, and often wins not only Nostalgia but Class 1 in local meets.
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Re: Full fuselage Bearcat
« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2008, 06:22:10 PM »
Thanks guys I will hunt for it on Ebay.
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Re: Full fuselage Bearcat
« Reply #9 on: January 24, 2008, 09:59:39 PM »
Office Depot charges about 1/4 the price of Kinko's and they do the copying! Hope there is one near you to try.   Mike
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Re: Full fuselage Bearcat
« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2008, 10:13:37 PM »
When Kinko's merged with FedEx the prices went Thur the roof! About $20.00 a plan. The Office Depot is about $4.00. They have about the same equipment as Kinkos but newer.
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Re: Full fuselage Bearcat
« Reply #11 on: January 26, 2008, 09:16:02 AM »
I guess it must be who is behind the counter.  I had a plan printed off a disc(2 copies) and was only $15.00.   Went back later and used big machine to make another copy of the parts sheet and it cost $7.00.  Last fall a different guy charged me $25.00 to make one copy of a plan.   DOC Holliday
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Re: Full fuselage Bearcat
« Reply #12 on: January 26, 2008, 09:38:44 AM »
Sounds like a price quote is needed prior to printing !!    Mike
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Re: Full fuselage Bearcat
« Reply #13 on: January 30, 2008, 07:44:02 PM »
Ty , would you consider selling be a copy of your bearcat plans?
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Re: Full fuselage Bearcat
« Reply #14 on: January 31, 2008, 07:43:42 AM »
these plans were published in the magazines.
F8F Bearcat   1961 AM Feb p19 -   26.50 span -138.50 area - .19 engine - by Musciano, Walt A.
F8F Bearcat   1979 AT CFM-S p89 - 24.00 span - 102.00 area - .23 i engine - by Noonan, Bill
either can be scaled up to suit your engine.  send me an email off forum and i'll send the scan of the magazine article.

tawilk36@cpinternet.com
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