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Offline Louis Matts

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Bill Melton
« on: February 20, 2016, 05:41:59 PM »
When one of the greats if not the greatest passed away, what happened to all of Bil's carrier planes, engines and equipment? I became good phone friends with Bill after meeting him at the 91 Nat's. Bill was an insperation to me and Doug (my PC flying partner back in 91-97), and I was truly sad to hear we lost Bill.

I would love to have one of Bill's PC planes, not to fly, only to admire. I also understood Bill had Carlos Aloise's 91 winning PC plane & engine, if I recal correctly Bill had told me Carlos gave him the plane & engine as a gift after the 91 Nat's...that would be very cool to have those two PC planes on my or any wall.

LM

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Re: Bill Melton
« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2016, 08:57:41 PM »
I believe all of his stuff was sold/ auctioned. I think Bill Calkins has Carlos Aloise's profile MO-1.

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Re: Bill Melton
« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2016, 01:42:48 PM »
Thanks Bill Bischoff.  :)

That's very cool for Bill Calkins to have one or both PC planes. I would love to hear from Bill C. about either/or both PC planes, thoughts, nuggets of info, all good stuff/planes from the great one Bill Melton #^

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Re: Bill Melton
« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2016, 09:10:31 AM »
Was going through old notes from 91-95 and found one I had made after one of my many phone calls with the "great" one Bill Melton.

I noted Bill told me he had tried the reverse rotation MO-1 Carlos Aloise had given Bill as a gift and Bill did not care for it. Bill told me he found the reverse rotation Aloise-Super Tigre X-36 engine to be more difficult to fly than the standard rotation engines he had been using. Bill noted this was the case for both the Carlos A MO-1 and his own Guardian.

My questions is: does anyone else have any experience with reverse vs standard rotation PC engines?

LM

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Re: Bill Melton
« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2016, 10:45:40 AM »
Was going through old notes from 91-95 and found one I had made after one of my many phone calls with the "great" one Bill Melton.

I noted Bill told me he had tried the reverse rotation MO-1 Carlos Aloise had given Bill as a gift and Bill did not care for it. Bill told me he found the reverse rotation Aloise-Super Tigre X-36 engine to be more difficult to fly than the standard rotation engines he had been using. Bill noted this was the case for both the Carlos A MO-1 and his own Guardian.

My questions is: does anyone else have any experience with reverse vs standard rotation PC engines?

LM



I have flown both and I prefer reverse rotation just because I think it helps with line tension on low speed, especially on a windy day.  Something else with reverse rotation, if you are someone that isn't as smooth on the throttle it can make learning to hang easier. I cant count the number of times when I was learning to hang that I lost tension and the plane cut across the circle because the plane rotated in from the engine torque. Now when I was learning I also didn't have the best flying planes because I was learning about trimming too. I really think that the only "advantage" to a reverse rotation is that little bit of tension on the upwind side of the circle on a windy day.

David

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Re: Bill Melton
« Reply #5 on: February 26, 2016, 10:58:15 AM »
     You will probably find that the people that have one or the other for an extended amount of time will do quite well with what they are using and not wanting to change what they are using. Bill Melton and Pete Mazur use standard rotation engines and both have won many National Championship's. I could be wrong but think that Bill Bischoff was the carrier flier that did the most to introduce the reverse rotation engines in carrier. He did a lot of work with the Fox combat engines and went on to use the Wylie engines with the Fox reverse crank. I started flying carrier about 5(?) years after BB had been using the reverse cranks and read every article that BB had written about the engines he used and ended up using the reverse cranks in my Nelson 36, 40, 45. When Burt Brokaw started flying carrier he also started with the reverse rotation Nelsons. So I think it has a lot to do with what you start out with.
     I got 2 of Bill's MO-1s after he passed away and found them to be "very competitive" planes, super light and a little easy to break it they were manhandled. They both had beam motor mounts and I was using radial mounts with my MO-1s so I ended up giving one to Burt Brokaw who has won several national championships with it, the other one I gave to Mike Potter in the NW who will use it to get the North West regional record one of these days. I had the pleasure of sitting next to Bill Melton at one of Ted Kraver's dinners after one of the Carrier+ contest and he was such a nice man, we talked about Alfalfa one of his special interests in his life. A wonderful man missed by many.  Eric
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Re: Bill Melton
« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2016, 12:00:41 PM »
I had one of Bill's  Gaurdians for Class II.  It was an easy plane to fly, but I remembered I never seen Bill hang it.    Well some one was going to show me that it would hang and I made the mistake of letting them try.   It got to about 30 degree angle and immediately flopped over doing quite a bit of damage.  The person was going to rebuild it and I haven't seen it since.   I still think of the first meeting with Bill at the Lincoln NATS and watched him fly.  That year he was about 4 or 5 foot off the flying surface through the whole flight.  I still miss him and Lois and guess that is one of the reasons I don't attend the NATS any more.  Loosing too many friends.
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Offline Louis Matts

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Re: Bill Melton
« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2016, 12:39:57 PM »
I am a big fan of Bill Melton and his PC planes. Had the pleasure of meeting Bill at the 91 Nat's along with Carlos A, spent a lot of time talking to both, taking pictures, getting information at the Nat's. Later on the phone, specially with Bill M. For me, Bill M is one of the "Greats" if not the "Greatest".

I have always found it interesting that Bill M did not like the reverse rotation Aloise-Super Tigre X-36, yet Carlos A won the 91 Nat's with that combination on an MO-1, dominated & was the standard in PC slow speed in the 90's. Bill M said he could never get the Aloise Super tigre X-36 reverse rotation engine to work as good as his normal rotation engines, Bill credited Carlos A's flying skills to Carlos's success more than the use of a reverse rotation engine.

Could their be that much of a style, plane, engine or preferential difference in PC?

PS: I am a big fan of PC, and a history buff of the event. Spent many a time reading about CL & PC growing up. Somewhere I have all the old magazines with Nat's coverage from the early 70's on up y1 

LM

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Re: Bill Melton
« Reply #8 on: February 27, 2016, 12:41:16 PM »
It is all in how you prepare and practice.
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Re: Bill Melton
« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2016, 10:05:45 AM »
I agree with you John H. Practice-practice-practice, standard or reverse engine rotation not that important, just set your plane to work with the best combination, and practice till the cows come home  #^

LM


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