Thinking about a .15 carrier.  Are there any reasonably easy to obtain .15 engines that can get the 70 mph high speed?

Darrel

Darrel
No longer made but good, cox 15 conquest, mvvs 15, Nelson 15,
New mag 15, os 15, not the la.
Have not seen the asp
Fox 15, I have seen some get there

If your interested in Nelson or mvvs I have some I am willing to sell

John

I just happened to be looking around and found this
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__25464__AP_Hornet_0_15_Two_Stroke_Glow_Engine.html

I don't know anything about it but I really like the AP .061,so this is probably the quality. Don'twoory about dealing with Hong Kong, you can use paypal and except for slow delivery they are OK, I but most of my electrc stuff from them.

I have one of those, tried it in a Clown racer.  IMO the Magnum XLS15 a better choice.

I have this engine as a Yellowjacket in a Carrier Flying Clown.  I am using muffler pressure and that reaaly restricts top end rpm, but the engine is so user fiendly I like it for non competitive flying.

Too bad we can't get the big guys to let us use muffler pressure on stock mufflers nation wide in AMA carrier competition.  Would have made a proposal before now, but almost get tarred and feathered every time I bring it up.

We also allow muffler pressure at Brodaks in Sportsman
John

I have been fooling around with the Enya 15s.  The old version, like the III and IV are very cheep on ebay, but will not hit the speed limit.  The new SS 15 will hit the speed limit, but the one I purchased was a total kit motor.  The Piston liner fit was so tight, I could not turn the engine over with an electric start, even when I heated the heat with a torch!  So I fitted the piston correctly bit the engine still felt tight at botton dead center--the rod was dragging on the case!  So once I ground the flash off the rod, and got that taken care of, it was a very fine performer on a 7x5 prop, turning in 17,300 RPM static on 10% nitro fuel and 25% oil.  Next I rotated the front cover 90% counter clock wise (looking form the front) and now it runs exactly the same backwards. One thing I did have to do, was don the muffler to get the air bleed carb to work correctly, but with the Muffler (yes on muffler pressure) it idles very nicely.

As for the other engines mentioned, I would go with an engine that can be made to run backwards.

Rules changes should be submitted through the regular channels.

True, but no pressure of any kind allowed in profile. You might go too fast or idle better. 

A .15 cubic inch engine with reverse rotation that can turn 31,000 and hold a reliable idle would certainly be with $1,200 to me.  Anything to win!

Maybe here is the long wished for .15 in a pair for my Tigercat!  Just think, for about $600 I didn't need to orry about getting off the deck! WOW!
Joe

The Fora 2.5 cc F2D engine sold for $240 in 2008, and that did not include shipping from the Ukraine, which was more than just a little.  If you want to fly FAI Combat you need a minimum of four engines at a cost of over $1,000.  And that was for a mass-produced product of which hundreds, maybe over a thousand were sold.

A 15 Profile Carrier engine as described would probably sell less than a half-dozen units.  I would not be the least bit surprised if somebody who developed such a unit would ask $1,200 for it.  A person who bought such a unit would have a much higher chance of victory than somebody who bought five F2D engines and tried to win at combat.

I doubt that the mythical engine will be created, but it happens, I expect that one or two guys would buy them.

I'd have a real hard time paying $200 for a .15 carrier engine. 

I'd have a hard time paying $200 for THREE .15 carrier engines.   

Why do you need 3 .15 carrier engines? 

One for the club penguin .15 trainer, one for the newbee I'm trying to get to take up the event, one for the buddy who needs another event and who I already gave a plane to, a couple for my grandsons, a couple for me to dink around with.  If I ever get REALLY serious about .15, I'll put together an electric .. can't let Eric have all the fun.     

I think Dave Rolley had an OPS a long time ago -- whoever's it was, it was plenty fast enough.

Very true.  The original sell job was based on utilizing the abundance of unemployed F2D engines put out to pasture by the new generation of muffled Russian engines.

I did exactly that.  I pulled out an old combat engine and epoxied on a carb from an LA15 which was used on a Clown racer.  Zero out of pocket cost.

Pardon my sarcasm at the idea of having a Cylon, Zorro, or Fora converted to back-handed rotation, but that would be way over the top and typical of what kills events.

I think you may be right about killing the event Paul. I'm trying to figure if the event was ever a competitive event or just an event. I know I go to contests and one of the events is almost always .15 carrier so I enter the contest to compete (competition). If it was just an event at a contest I would still enter but would probably be inclined to go with a plane that was very dependale and pretty much idiot proof which would make the whole experience more enjoyable. To me there is a big difference between an event and a competitive (competition) event.

When I first started flying competition carrier events I got to fly a lot but not place as well as I wanted (there wasn't a .15 class then). So after I thought I had mastered flying the event pretty much and I was still not placing where I wanted to I started looking around to see what I could do about it. Well there was one plane (MO-1) being used by the leaders of the pack but I was already flying one of them so I started looking at the engines that were being used. I found that the top carrier guys were using much modified K&B engines with high nito fuels. I could buy the K&B engines but not the modified ones and I am not an engine builder so I kept looking and finally decided on a Nelson combat engine because my friends were using them in combat and they were superior to all the other engines at that time. I called Henry and he talked me out of the combat engine and into the heavy case pylon engine with a reverse crank shaft. I purchased one from him ($245 at the time) and have used that engine 18 years (yes "that engine"). Henry had these engines available to anyone that wanted one from 1995 on up until he stopped producing engines a couple of years ago. The point being that there is no one out there flying carrier for the last 18 years that hasn't spent a lot more than $245 on engines over the same period of time.

So I think I have rambled on long enough and yes I'm old and would enjoy flying in events.  Eric