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Offline Rudy Taube

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Spray Can to Jar to Brush??
« on: December 01, 2007, 12:20:48 AM »
Hi Guys,

I know this may sound backwards, but has anyone sprayed their paint from a spray can into a jar so that they can use a brush to paint their plane?? (in my case, just the fuselage)

The reason I ask is that the MK spray cans are almost a perfect color match for my MK wings, but I do not have a place to spray paint my fuselage. (I already have the MK spray cans)

I know that spray is the best way to a perfect finish, but my building skills are so poor that a wire brush would be OK.  LL~

TIA for any help on this.
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Re: Spray Can to Jar to Brush??
« Reply #1 on: December 01, 2007, 01:46:16 AM »
Rudy,
ya does what ya gotsta do,,,,
that being said, I have done that for a color I wanted to use when I was building plastic models. Not sure how well it will translate for doing a whole airplane. I might suggest that you could spray it outside on a semi warm day, more important would be for it to be calm. If its say 55 degrees, just get the plane warm and the spray can warm, take them outside and spray a coat, bring them in and put the thing in the bathroom with the exhaust fan running for awhile till it gasses off. Just a thought
As for spraying it into a jar, I am not really confident that you could accomplish much that way. first issue would be the waste of spraying it into the jar, you will undoubtedly loose a great deal of paint backwashing out of the container, and in the process of doing it you will also loose some thinner which will be difficult to overcome because you dont know what kind of thinner to replace it with. Now understand I haven't tried this on the scale you are suggesting, I am just supposing sitting here thinking about it, It may in fact work fine. I cant say that its something I would want to try, I would rather monokote the thing entirely than try that FWIW.
but thats me, and I haven't any expertise in what you are thinking about,, cant say dont know,,,,,
Heck load the thing up and come on up, we can paint it in the shop for ya,,
oh well, maybe a touch far to drive huh,, well offer stands
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Re: Spray Can to Jar to Brush??
« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2007, 07:11:32 AM »
This will sound zany to some, but I spray the can into an airbrush jar to use for trim colors.  I hate the way the stuff sprays out of the can for even if I warm it up it splatters and has big drops that really bug me so I do the airbrush thing.
I simply hold a piece of wax paper over the opening in the jar, covering all but enough of the top to allow the spraying while overlapping the paper over the spary nozzle.  I then tilt the jar and letterrip, spraying down the side of the jar.  (Yes, the inside, of course, guys.)
This is bazaar, but I did run into losing thinner to the point of needing more once, as Mark suggested might happen.  I experimented by putting 3608S in it and it worked fine.  Hmmmmmmm. ???  That makes me wonder what the base of the stuff is?
I can't imagine brushing a whole ship's fuse' with it, though, wow.  Do like Mark says by spraying outside.  Plus, I spray in an unheated shop in the winter, sometimes down to 30 degrees or so, and as long as the subject, and the paint, are warm, it works fine.  I've done that for over twenty years now and have never had a problem.  I even leave the beast out there 'til it gasses off for an hour before bringing it inside to my other shop.  (It stinks the place up even then, but not nearly as bad.)
Have fun with this & be sure to keep us informed as to your results.
Blessings,
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Re: Spray Can to Jar to Brush??
« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2007, 09:05:49 AM »
This was in the instructions for the (dark arts) TF Sea Fury that I reviewed for RCM som time back.  The instructions were for Lustrecote - but should work for others???

Make a paper tube around 1/2" dia x 8" long.  Hold it close to the nozzle when you spray, then point the other end into a jar.  The tube catches the spray and directs & drips it into the jar.  (I like Will's suggestion to use wax paper with a hole in it over the top of the jar).  Even spraying this way the paint has a lot of aerosol left in it - you have to let it gas-off for a couple hours.

I only did it for a few drops of touch up (worked fine) but did not try to empty a complete can that way.

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Re: Spray Can to Jar to Brush??
« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2007, 06:21:01 AM »
How about turn the can upside down and let it sit for a few hours or over night.  Ease the can outside still upside down -- do not shake it up.  While still holding the can upside down spray it until all the pressure is relieved.  Holding the can inverted means that the dip tube which goes from the nozzle to the paint will not be in the paint but extend above the paint into the propellent.  When all and I mean all preasure is relieved turn the can right side up and pry off the end of the can.  Pour the paint into a suitable container.  Wipe off the marble that was inside the can for making the rattle sound.  Give the marble to a nearby kid as a means of bribing him not to tell the authorities that your punctured an aerosol can.  Rinse out the can and save it for soaking paint brushes.  Narrow tall can = less thinner to cover the bristles. Wear sunscreen for a few days as protection from the disturbance in the ozone layer caused by the release of the propellent into the atmosphere.  Use the liberated paint with a brush or airbrush.  Reading the label on the can may give a clue to a compatible thinner.  USE EYE PROTECTION
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Re: Spray Can to Jar to Brush??
« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2007, 06:57:47 AM »
That's a really cool idea, Wayne - I'll give it a try someday!
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Re: Spray Can to Jar to Brush??
« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2007, 07:52:44 AM »
Hi Guys I think we all have done it , years & years ago I did it also , but I use a set up like W/D 40 or carb cleaner tip with tube, by the way it works great.
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Re: Spray Can to Jar to Brush??
« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2007, 08:28:36 AM »
Wayne I have done that numerous times for a spray paint color I needed and could not get in a regular can of paint.  I learned that method of retreiving ether from starting fluid cans.  Still make sure you have the can pointed in the right direction when you punch the hole in it.  DOC Holliday
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Re: Spray Can to Jar to Brush??
« Reply #8 on: December 04, 2007, 07:27:18 AM »
No need to to turn the can upside down. just take an icepick and at the very top of the can  slowly start to twist the ice pick until you start to hear the gas coming out let it sit a while till all the gas is out enlarge the hole and pour away. I have done this many many times with paint and just about anything in an areosol can

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Re: Spray Can to Jar to Brush??
« Reply #9 on: December 04, 2007, 06:34:43 PM »
Hi Guys
 last year i actually did this because i couldn't find enough duck egg blue and light sae gray for my Cougar that i painted in royal navy colors.
i actually did the turn the can over and vent out the aerosol. then carefully punched a hole in the bottom and poured the paint into a jar.
it was way too thin too have brushed on but the cans were old and cept clogging so i thought it would work to spray it with a gun.
well it workes with some exceptions!
do not and I repeat DO NOT SHAKE THE JAR OF PAINT OR THE GUN FULL OF PAINT. even after severall days the paint still apparently has propellent
in it! the wall of my shop still has the nice coat of light sea gray on it . it actually blew the top off of the jar when i shook it to make sure it was mixed before pouring it into the gun.I lost most of the jar on the wall, the floor and oh yeah ME! luckilly i was far enough away from the model it was about the only thing that didn't get paint on it.
so yeah it works BUT i dont think you could brush it and i probable wont do it again unless i had to.
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Re: Spray Can to Jar to Brush??
« Reply #10 on: December 05, 2007, 01:41:27 PM »
Dave,
Thank you for the heads up on this!  I will definitely be using these techniques for my trim colors and can now avoid the lurking disaster you described.  I'm glad the paint missed the Couger, it looks great!  y1 y1 y1 y1 #^ #^
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Re: Spray Can to Jar to Brush??
« Reply #11 on: January 08, 2008, 11:01:07 AM »
Guys,

This has been used to get starter fluid from spray cans for making diesel fuel for some time. For paint you first shake the can to make sure it is mixed really good, next invert the can, let it settle for a minute or so then keeping the can inverted spray out the propellant. Put the can in the freezer for an hour, shake it good again then invert and spray off any remaining propellant, set the can upright. Now take a sharp center punch or ice pick and punch a hole along the top and slowly pull the punch out to releave any remaining pressure (make sure you have eye protection on just in case it spurts, not likely but why take the chance). Now you can use a can opener to open a large hole and pour out the paint into a jar, put a small amount of thinner back into the can and wash out any remaining pigment then thin as you need for spraying or brushing. Big advantage with doing this is to be able to add thinner and retarder if needed for better flowability and a smoother finish.

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Re: Spray Can to Jar to Brush??
« Reply #12 on: January 08, 2008, 12:52:21 PM »
Also works great for repairs!! Don't ask me how I know.
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