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Offline Allen Eshleman

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Building a Brodak Profile Pathfinder
« on: December 07, 2023, 10:26:48 AM »
I just received a Pathfinder in the mail.  This one I bought.  I have had two hand me downs, both ARF's.  The first one was the best plane I personally ever flew and I was developing a lot of confidence with it.  But the - pulled the controls the wrong way flying inverted and the grass came up fast and not the sky.  It had one of those circular, 2 0z. weights built into the nose.

I am just simply asking if there are any particular modifications or advice on the build process. 

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Re: Building a Brodak Profile Pathfinder
« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2023, 10:47:48 AM »
The Pathfinder is a fine aircraft, only thing I have found is you could add some large fillets along the wing and stab connections to strengthen the nose and add stiffness to the stab. What type of power are you planning on using? For the finish using film on the wing an tail surfaces and paint the fuse (or at least the nose) will keep is light. Put in strong control system, 4" bellcrank, carbon fiber pushrods.

Best,   DennisT

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Re: Building a Brodak Profile Pathfinder
« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2023, 10:49:49 AM »
Thanks Dennis.  I will be using an LA 46.

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Re: Building a Brodak Profile Pathfinder
« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2023, 02:01:01 PM »
Allen,

The only change I can say to be aware of is the use of spruce wing spars instead of balsa. I'm planning to use my Brodak Pathfinder Profile kit I've had for several years to make a twin engine Pathfinder this winter. I bought the 3 magazine articles from Flying Models and read where Gordan Delaney March 1995 described how his original wing folded up forcing him to use 1/8 x 3/8 inch spruce spars instead. I have not opened the kit to see if Brodak has included the spruce. My original thought here when I read this because I always lean toward being more conservative was to add a strip of 1/32 plywood CA'd to the 3/8 surface to have a 5/32 x 3/8 heavier spar. Any change here will require opening the notch in every rib.

Keep us posted on your build.

Steve

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Re: Building a Brodak Profile Pathfinder
« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2023, 02:14:26 PM »
The Brodak Pathfinder kit is pretty good as supplied. Watch your weight build-up, Use a good 4" bell crank, strong flap, and elevator horns with quality ball links and carbon rods, and you should be good to go.

If you want to do what Gordan has done lately, add about an inch to the top of the vertical stab.

The Pathfinder 60 that Gordy folded the wings on was not one of Brodak's kit versions, the Pathfinder Mk2.

The earlier versions of Pathfinders had a faux I-Beam construction where the 1/8" thick I-Beam was slotted, top and bottom, to allow a locate, twist, and lock, method that made building the wing easy. Unfortunately, it proved to not be as strong as it needed to be under rough conditions. Gordan's wing folded while doing what appeared to be numerous 10-foot dia. loops, both inside and outsides. He was flying it like a combat ship, probably trying to see how tight it could turn I think. After about 30 or so seconds of this flogging, the wing folded in a bang.

The First one published, The Pathfinder PRO-file (Flying Models and kitted by Smith in Calif. (200 kit run, and rare), as well as My full-bodied version The Pathfinder 40, (never published), and the Pathfinder 60, for lack of a better name,(also never published),  all used this style of faux I-Beam wing design.

This failure caused Gordan to revise the design to a "C" tube wing. It was renamed Pathfinder Mk2 and is the one Brodak is kitting. As far as I am aware, there have been no failures with this version's wings as designed. Going to spruce spars may make for good feelings, and will be stronger, but adding weight to the design, carried to extremes, will ensure it might survive a crash, but it likely won't fly as well as it could have. Keep this in mind as you build your kit

If you feel you need stronger spars, laminate a .006" Carbon Fiber strip between 1/8" balsa strips. They will be lighter, and stronger than Spruce if you do it right.

Enjoy your build. Do it well, and you'll have one of the best flying Stunt Profiles that are currently being kitted.

Fly and have FUN.

Getting a line on life. AMA 1601

Offline Allen Eshleman

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Re: Building a Brodak Profile Pathfinder
« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2023, 06:20:18 AM »
Thank-you Steve and John.  You have given me some good advice and observations.  It's about time to get to work.


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