Author Topic: Ambroid glue in quarts (Read 3470 times)

Ty Marcucci · « **on:** April 24, 2009, 07:33:15 PM »

Gone, but remembered. RIP Ambroid

john e. holliday · « **Reply #1 on:** April 27, 2009, 11:03:39 AM »

Have they discontinued the large 4 ounce tubes of Ambroid. My local hobby shop states they can't order the glue anymore. DOC Holliday

Bill Little · « **Reply #2 on:** April 28, 2009, 11:51:01 PM »

HI Ty!

I got my old metal glue gun out just last night. I think the nylon washer is about shot, but I am going to try it out! About 40 years ago I had two, on one I filed a groove in one side of the tip so that it would track right down the top edge of 1/16th ribs!

It sure holds a lot more glue than the diabetes syringes.

Mongo

posthole_digger · « **Reply #3 on:** April 29, 2009, 09:18:57 AM »

Will these work? They are really ear irrigators.

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LX9164&P=ML

Paul

Brian Massey · « **Reply #4 on:** July 24, 2009, 10:33:48 PM »

Is there anywhere/anyone making the old glue guns anymore? I remember mine well, and remember how well it worked.

Brian

PS: I'll check out the other tips; any thoughts/experience on those?

james dean · « **Reply #5 on:** July 25, 2009, 06:40:34 PM »

I beg your pardon gentelman, I've used the "Ambroid" glue back in the '70s. Had all the usual problems with the stuff.

I can't imagine why anyone would ever want to use this glue ever again what with the excellent CA and epoxys available now?

Thank you for your replies, just wanted to know

Frank Sheridan · « **Reply #6 on:** July 26, 2009, 07:39:29 AM »

I'm with james on this one. It was never my favorite thing to use, but then I never cared for dope either and a lot of people still use it today.

john e. holliday · « **Reply #7 on:** July 26, 2009, 12:23:41 PM »

Some of us can only use so much CA or even Epoxy before the old rashes and breathing problems kick in again. I use just enough to hold parts and finish with Elmer's Glue All. But, is only on joints that will not need sanding. DOC Holliday

james dean · « **Reply #8 on:** July 27, 2009, 12:05:25 PM »

Ty,

I'm with you about the plastic covering as I only use it for sport models like for trainers and such. On my stunt machines there is only Polyspan and silkspan w/dope for finishing.

Not to instruct but it just has become the norm to have my work area well ventelated and I use a respirator for painting and heavy sanding of balsa, and nitril gloves for epoxy.

The vapor given off by CA is pretty irritating

Anyway, I was just curious why Ambroid would still be in use today as it also gives off a great amount of vapor and has a pretty short life span when compared to CA or epoxy.

I found an old model I constructed in the 70s up in the attic and it just fell apart in my hands and was amazed to see that the ambroid had turned to dust.

James Dean

john e. holliday · « **Reply #9 on:** July 28, 2009, 08:29:28 AM »

I still have a Nobler that was built 40+ years ago that I have thought of flying again. The fuel tank and covering keep it hanging on the wall. My first Thunderbird was built before the Nobler. Tried to recover, but, the balsa wood in some places was non exhistant. The Ambroid joints were solid enough that I broke peices of wood trying to rebuild. Remember we used to double glue the joints as reccommended in that time frame. DOC Holliday

Bill Little · « **Reply #10 on:** August 02, 2009, 04:15:44 PM »

Quote from: john e. holliday on July 28, 2009, 08:29:28 AM

I still have a Nobler that was built 40+ years ago that I have thought of flying again. The fuel tank and covering keep it hanging on the wall. My first Thunderbird was built before the Nobler. Tried to recover, but, the balsa wood in some places was non exhistant. The Ambroid joints were solid enough that I broke peices of wood trying to rebuild. Remember we used to double glue the joints as reccommended in that time frame. DOC Holliday

Hi Doc, (and Ty!

)

Ambroid does hold up pretty good over the years as long as it was double glued. Testors and Duco are the same way.

Before anyone dies laughing, I was told this by one of the lightest builders on the planet: "CA glues are heavy".

Ambroid is some kind of acetate (or plastic stuff) dissolved in solvent. The solvent evaporates (and smells, but I like it!) and leaves the acetate (or whatever) in the joint. That stuff is really light! If you REALLY want to build light, you can (probably should) use an *Ambroid Type* glue except for the areas that must have epoxy. That, and properly done glue joints (no gaps, tight fitting), WILL save weight.

On a stunt plane, it will save weight versus CA usage. CA is great, but it IS heavy.
Mongo

FLOYD CARTER · « **Reply #11 on:** August 13, 2009, 04:35:13 PM »

I'll remind you that CA adhesives only work for tight or very close-fitting joints. Also, ever try to double glue with CA when the first application didn't hold? Well, it doesn't work.

I use mostly Ambroid, although SIG-ment is nearly as good. Works regardless of the quality of my balsa-to-balsa joints (which are sometimes nothing to brag about).

Floyd

minnesotamodeler · « **Reply #12 on:** August 13, 2009, 06:48:32 PM »

Quote from: john e. holliday on July 26, 2009, 12:23:41 PM

Some of us can only use so much CA or even Epoxy before the old rashes and breathing problems kick in again. I use just enough to hold parts and finish with Elmer's Glue All. But, is only on joints that will not need sanding. DOC Holliday

Doc, Elmer's yellow woodworking glue is sandable and paintable, dries quicker than the white glue too. I build just practically everything with it. Other brands too of course, Titebond is one. Just look for the "woodworker's" designation. I think they're all yellow, kinda ugly but then so is Ambroid.

Pinecone · « **Reply #13 on:** August 14, 2009, 04:52:10 PM »

And there is one from Ontario Adhesives (I think that is the company) that is water thin and works like CA> YOu can assemble, then glue. Takes a bit longer than CA, but not that long.

Bill Little · « **Reply #14 on:** August 18, 2009, 09:49:57 AM »

I was thinking, (OH NO!!

) that things have gotten so much more complicated since we have had the experience of so many more adhesives.

Once upon a time, in a land far, far away...........

Mongo

Chuck Feldman · « **Reply #15 on:** June 07, 2011, 03:53:44 PM »

I have a glue gun hahah

PatRobinson · « **Reply #16 on:** June 07, 2011, 06:24:25 PM »

Hi Guys,
The glue Terry mentioned is "Superphatic" wood glue. it's claimed to be a penetrating super strong wood glue (which drys in 20 minutes), that might be worth looking at. In the US Hobby Lobby sells bottles for under 10 bucks. They also have a clear canopy glue that looks useful on the same page. I think it is called RC Modeler Craft Glue. It's also under 10 bucks. These may be useful products.
Pat Robinson

Clint Ormosen · « **Reply #17 on:** June 08, 2011, 06:37:46 PM »

Quote from: PatRobinson on June 07, 2011, 06:24:25 PM

They also have a clear canopy glue that looks useful on the same page. I think it is called RC Modeler Craft Glue.

That must be the same stuff they used to call R/C 56 canopy glue. Never worked very well for canopies, though.

FLOYD CARTER · « **Reply #18 on:** June 10, 2011, 10:09:32 AM »

I have a book, published in 1928, on model plane building. It calls for "Ambroid".

Any product that has been around that long has to be good!

I use the stuff almost exclusively.

Floyd

Bill Little · « **Reply #19 on:** June 10, 2011, 10:48:47 AM »

Quote from: FLOYD CARTER on June 10, 2011, 10:09:32 AM

I have a book, published in 1928, on model plane building. It calls for "Ambroid".

Any product that has been around that long has to be good!

I use the stuff almost exclusively.

Floyd

I agree, Floyd. it might be "old school", but it does a great job if used correctly. Ambroid and Elmer's Glue All have become my glue of choice for projects, and especially when I am not in a big hurry. Both also have the added advantage of being considerably lighter than CYA glues!

Big Bear

FLOYD CARTER · « **Reply #20 on:** June 10, 2011, 12:31:53 PM »

I haven't weighed that little bottle of CA, but it isn't very much! And a bottle goes a very long way. I can't see any weight disadvantage with CA. I use it to "tack" some parts together when pinning or clamping isn't practical.

F.C.

Author Topic: Ambroid glue in quarts (Read 3470 times)

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