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Author Topic: Want to make a 1/2A SIG Skyray and Cox Hyper Viper electric  (Read 2671 times)

Offline Jared Hays

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Want to make a 1/2A SIG Skyray and Cox Hyper Viper electric
« on: January 20, 2014, 08:01:45 AM »
Built a SIG skyray for my girlfriends son and would just assume make it electric.  Also have a Cox Hyper Viper that is underpowered even with a Killer Bee .049 installed.
What motor, esc, battery's, and timers would I need to do this.  Not up to speed on motor size and performance of the electric stuff.  Where can I get timers for these?

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Re: Want to make a 1/2A SIG Skyray and Cox Hyper Viper electric
« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2014, 08:15:23 AM »
Go to the electric section or PM Dennis Adimisin.
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Re: Want to make a 1/2A SIG Skyray and Cox Hyper Viper electric
« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2014, 08:21:20 AM »
Eric Rule at rsmdistribution.com can sell you a complete, ready to install setup.
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Re: Want to make a 1/2A SIG Skyray and Cox Hyper Viper electric
« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2014, 08:23:37 AM »
Go over to the "Getting all amp'd up" forum and look in the "List Your Setup" thread -- there are some 1/2-A sized planes in there.  Keep in mind that for a trainer you don't need as much power, and may not want it.

Do a search on "ET-1".  You'll find a Coreplast trainer designed by Larry Reniger.  The recommended power system for that should power the Skyray just fine.

For the Viper, weigh it, then let us know.

I built a pair of ET-1's for my nephews for Christmas in 2012.  I took Larry's recommendation to use a radio for throttle.  It works great, for a beginner it lets you cut throttle when they're getting bored, dizzy, or into trouble, and for a plane that can only go around in circles it adds a dimension of fun.  All the electronic stuff for a plane was about $70 from Hobby King, including extra batteries and a charger.  The more you already have, the lower the price.

I'd get cheap motors -- he'll be using them for landing gear a lot, so you'll be replacing them.
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The problem with electric is that once you get the smoke generator and sound system installed, the plane is too heavy.

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Re: Want to make a 1/2A SIG Skyray and Cox Hyper Viper electric
« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2014, 08:52:30 AM »
thanks guys I'll try to weigh the Viper when I get home.

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Re: Want to make a 1/2A SIG Skyray and Cox Hyper Viper electric
« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2014, 08:57:12 AM »
I fly my Skyray with a Turnigy 2730-1700Kv , 500 mah 3s , Brodak timer and 12 amp esc,  Every bit as good as a COX will do all stunts that a Skyray can do.

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Re: Want to make a 1/2A SIG Skyray and Cox Hyper Viper electric
« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2014, 10:32:51 PM »
My cox Hyper Viper weighs 12oz with a .049 Killer Bee motor in it.

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Re: Want to make a 1/2A SIG Skyray and Cox Hyper Viper electric
« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2014, 10:36:05 PM »
Eric Rule at rsmdistribution.com can sell you a complete, ready to install setup.

Holy crap, don't really want to put a $170 setup in a $40 plane lol

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Re: Want to make a 1/2A SIG Skyray and Cox Hyper Viper electric
« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2014, 09:49:04 AM »
If you want to play, you have to pay.   But, once you get past the initial cost look at the possibilities.   I remember my first .35 size engine and thought that was way too much money.   
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Re: Want to make a 1/2A SIG Skyray and Cox Hyper Viper electric
« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2014, 09:59:08 AM »
Holy crap, don't really want to put a $170 setup in a $40 plane lol

You can get it way cheaper at Hobby King.  It'll be cheaper in all senses, not just "less money", but for a trainer that's going to be crashed anyway, why not?
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Re: Want to make a 1/2A SIG Skyray and Cox Hyper Viper electric
« Reply #10 on: January 21, 2014, 10:59:14 AM »
Yea I have a bunch of electric R/C stuff anyway so I know the savings potential from Hobbyking/CopyKing so I'll just go that route.  I just don't understand all the #'s you see when looking at electric motors...Wish Hobbyking would list them like the $170 setup website.  "This electric motor is replacement for .61-.76 glow motor"  So thats what I need to know.  What motor's and such.  The skyray setup above I will pry just copy for my skyray since he said its comparable to cox .049 but my Hyper Viper could use .061 power.  So need a turnigy motor for it that would be a little more than the skyray one.

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Re: Want to make a 1/2A SIG Skyray and Cox Hyper Viper electric
« Reply #11 on: January 21, 2014, 01:43:56 PM »
Yea I have a bunch of electric R/C stuff anyway so I know the savings potential from Hobbyking/CopyKing so I'll just go that route.  I just don't understand all the #'s you see when looking at electric motors...Wish Hobbyking would list them like the $170 setup website.  "This electric motor is replacement for .61-.76 glow motor"  So thats what I need to know.  What motor's and such.  The skyray setup above I will pry just copy for my skyray since he said its comparable to cox .049 but my Hyper Viper could use .061 power.  So need a turnigy motor for it that would be a little more than the skyray one.

I can see how it would get confusing.  A good part of my living is designing motor drive circuits as well as control systems that use them, so sizing motors and electronics is a practiced art here.  Even though I know it in and out, it's still a tedious job to find all the right bits and pieces, particularly when you have to add a bit of distrust in the specifications into the mix.
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The problem with electric is that once you get the smoke generator and sound system installed, the plane is too heavy.


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