Not to be a sour puss but I hope that they are new manufacture and run at least as good as a norvel or the like.

RIGHT ON !! Larry.  High end engines are there if you want them.  What we need are affordable, dependable engines that start easy and hold up to the abuse of beginners.

OK! I know that this is a little off of the 1/2a subject but I have to tell someone! I started this business, Black Hawk Models, because I knew some kids who wanted to fly control line models and when I encouraged them I found out that there were not trainer models available. After I made up some kits for them to build I found that engines and glow plugs were out of this world in price. I gave them all of the old Cox engines that I could find. The kids had a ball...well to make a long story short......."That ship has sailed"  .
          If this hobby is to grow or even survive there a couple of things that it needs:
1- Easy to build, cheap, rugged model airplanes.
2- Basic, throw away, cheap engines; .049, .09, .15 or .19 and .35.
3- and a way to entice people to try it (that is why I am promoting the "Black Hawk Squadron"
          A new commer to the hobby should be able to buy a plane and engine for $50.00 and find the support to learn to build and fly it.   OK! So you heard all of this before.
Larry

Nor so expensive...nor requires as much room...nor as scary--or dangerous--to young fingers.  Not to mention not as destructive if a neophyte loses the handle. My first kitted design, the Minnie Delta, started out exactly the same way, Larry...as a trainer for some kids who were interested.

--Ray
Minnesotamodeler
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Larry, I am not looking for another $60 engine, I have too many already. I do have an O.K. Cub .049 that was packaged and sold a few years back, it runs but is not equal to some of the Babe Bees that I have and feel that if O.K. is going to put out a new engine that it should have performance equal to the Cox Bees or Blackwidow. If that happens then I would buy them with no reservations and yes $30 would be a great price if they can be brought to market at that price.

I have never heard of souping up O K motors but this might be a nice time to hear about some of the simpler things (in another thread) one can do.

Robert

Saw on another forum that OK has updated their web sight with information on the now available reed valve engines.    The update did not include pictures of these engines.  http://www.okengines.com/news.shtml