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Offline Mark Mc

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My New Plastex Delta (picture heavy)
« on: March 21, 2015, 08:09:00 PM »
Well, the first time I saw the 1959 Duplex Delta design, I thought, “Meh.”  But, for some reason, last week I looked at it again and thought, “Hmmmm”.  I have all this coroplast, and was thinking that it might make an evening’s quick build, with a couple of modifications.  It’ll be a little heavier, as it’s made out of coroplast instead of balsa, but the coroplast is free.  The plans are here:  


 http://www.outerzone.co.uk/plan_details.asp?ID=3399

Changes from the plans:
1)   The plans call for a .75cc to 1.5cc diesel engine.  I don’t have any diesels, so a Cox it is.  But, an .09 seems awfully big for a little plane with a total area of 100 sq.in. to it.  So it’ll be a tanked Bee, then.  
2)   The plans call for a 1/8 firewall, but I have some 3/32 scrap, so that gets used.
3)   The plan has both 1/16” balsa fuselage sides full length out to the fin, but that’d be too heavy and thick back there.  So, the right side fuse stops before the elevator, and the left side fuselage goes all the way back.  This eliminates some weight, builds in right rudder, and still comes out to a 1/8” fin.
4)   The plans have the bellcrank on the bottom, with no landing gear.  So I put the bellcrank on top of the lower wing.


With the initial thoughts out of the way, I cut some coroplast and ply to make my Plastex Delta kit.  As you can see, there's not much to it.



The first decision was how to glue the firewall to the plane.  Many ways popped up.  But what is the minimalist way of doing it?  After a few minutes of thinking, I figured the best way would be to slit the coroplast flutes to recess the firewall into the coroplast sheet.





Test fitting showed it all looked good.






Some people say that CA isn’t good for these coroplast planes, but using thick slow setting CA to bond roughed up surfaces has worked for me so far.  So, I went ahead and glued everything together.  








A little blue electrical tape to close up the exposed flutes and provide some trim, and it’s done.







I still don’t like the leadout guide, but we’ll see how it goes.  Now that it’s all done, I can see the desirability of a .09 engine.  Not that it needs the power.  Like I said, it’s only 100 sq.in. total area.  But, it’s terribly tail heavy.  An .09 would help with that, even if it is overkill.  If I ever did another one of these, I’d move the engine about ¾” forward.  It wouldn’t look as good, but it would balance better.  I used a weighted spinner to help offset the tail-heavy condition.  I’ll have to live with the weight penalty.  I suppose 6.3 ounces isn’t that bad.  We’ll see.




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Re: My New Plastex Delta (picture heavy)
« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2015, 10:01:40 PM »
Very cool, I'll be interested in how it flies

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Re: My New Plastex Delta (picture heavy)
« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2015, 04:01:50 AM »
That is one weird little airplane!

  I love this kind of old design.
Totally and completely out of the box.

  Hey John, you could always just put
a spacer behind the engine to make it
balance......... If you can find a good C/G.
  #^

Cheers!
Keith Morgan

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Re: My New Plastex Delta (picture heavy)
« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2015, 08:00:13 AM »
You should come to SMALL and bring this.
It will earn several beers.

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Re: My New Plastex Delta (picture heavy)
« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2015, 08:35:59 AM »
interesting. Need flight video y1

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Re: My New Plastex Delta (picture heavy)
« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2015, 12:15:10 PM »
I have built a couple of these, come to think it was three. They fly extremely well with 1cc diesel power and even better with a 1.5cc. Mine would do wing overs and big round loops, I never had the courage to try a bunt! Oh and it will fly inverted provided you have a stunt tank. I would not have the nerve to fly one with a Cox reedie, unless it were well breathed on!

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Re: My New Plastex Delta (picture heavy)
« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2015, 03:39:27 PM »
Andrew
I have heard the term before, but what is a bunt maneuver ?

John

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Re: My New Plastex Delta (picture heavy)
« Reply #7 on: March 23, 2015, 01:20:24 PM »
Hi John,
My understanding is that it is an outside loop. I.E. starting from level you put full down elevator and just hope you miss the ground as she comes round and eventually gets upright again. I suspect bunt is probably a UK term. It doesn't seem to be used as often as in my youth!

Best,

Andrew.

P.S. The Duplex delta is quite a good trainer with decent power, being so compact, seems to allow it to bounce and survive better than a conventional layout. Its just so weird that it makes me smile. Anyone trying one will have a heap of fun.
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Re: My New Plastex Delta (picture heavy)
« Reply #8 on: March 23, 2015, 07:42:34 PM »
Andrew, Thanks for the explanation. I used to see it used in Aeromodeller quite a bit, finally I understand!!!!!

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Re: My New Plastex Delta (picture heavy)
« Reply #10 on: March 25, 2015, 10:44:19 AM »
They still use the term on the Barton Model Flying Club site.   Was just on it last night.   Amazing how far behind one can get in over month.
John E. "DOC" Holliday
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Shawnee, KANSAS  66203
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