Will a Cox Golden Bee pull a Lit'l Jumpin' Bean on 42 x .010 with 20% nitro and still do a few stunts?

Sometime around 1963 we discovered the idea of putting a TD cylinder on a Babe Bee and a Golden Bee.

Since then, nobody remembers what a single port cylinder will do, other occupy space in a parts box.  We need somebody with the skills and tools to cut the second bypass.

A TeeDee stunter works good on 46' lines for me and could use more.

Your biggest handicap is not likely the single port cylinder, it is the .010 lines. Are these repurposed Mouse I lines? Switch to either .008 stranded or some lighter Spyderwire and you'd be in much better shape. I fly a SIG Baby Skyray on .008x42 with no issues but that is using a "product engine," so dual port. Single port on a Beginner Ringmaster on the same lines. No loops attempted on that one so far. And a Medallion on a Baby Clown is outstanding....again on .008x42's.

When did the Bean come out?  My memory banks have it somewhere around 1959.  Those really were the days.  Our Cox 1/2a's were like today's video games.  Everybody was doing it, well almost everybody. 

Ken

The Li'l Jumpin' Bean was kit number G-8, and was preceded by the Swordsman 18 (G-3), Stuntman 23 (G-6) and the Spaceman 30 (G-7). As often the case, the plans do not show a date, possibly because they didn't want their kits to seem outdated? Who knew we'd be building them 60+ years later, with no regard for "state of the art?"

I love the style of all of the Goldberg plans. The isometrics showing how to proceed. The Brodak reproduction retained the Goldberg plan, but changed some of the engineering. In particular, they provided a nylon engine mount. A very fine mount, but I think for a Bean, I'd do it just like the original, just because.

AHC advertised the Stuntman 23 in September of 1960 (and possibly earlier), but not the Bean--yet. In May of 1959 for example, AHC was advertising the Swordsman 18 and the 1/2A Blazer, but not yet the Bean. But by early 1961, AHC was selling the Bean for $1.49 or you could get a Little Toot for $1.69. So Ken's answer is probably within 12 months of the first introduction.

I recall reading a chronology as given by Goldberg himself, going thru the logic of each and the tentative and somewhat unexpected growth of his venture. Wish I could find that again.

Just a suggestion but try PowerPro Spectra 20# rated lines at 35'. Similar to Dracon lines. 

The little baby bee planes I use to fly would pull about 0#. I remember those Dacron lines. Use to feel like clothes line rope. I'll just get some .008 stainless and a magnifying glass to wrap with.

You guys know any other cool little planes for a Golden bee?

Thanks,
MM

The Li'l Satan is fun. Flew this one from the Brodak kit on 26' of 30lb test Spectra. Why 26'? Well, that's what the plans recommended. Made my knees shake doing whatchamadingys like the combat guys do. One buddy flew it and it took a LOT of concentration for him to fly it level. He hadn't flown in years, I don't think. Another friend immediately got dibs on the next flight. He was doing great until it got lost behind his head somewhere and "WHUMP" it took out a gopher hill. Took it home, washed out the engine and all was good. I think 35' lines would be waaaaay more practical. Depends on whether you like shakyknees or not....

A guy at the field has a Baby Barnstormer that flies really well on Cox power. That might be an option?

The Divot

MM,

Are you looking for built-up wing, or flat plank wing?

Lil Satan templates are on Outerzone, and a Lil Satan clone is on Flying lines.org (Wido Satan): http://flyinglines.org/kb.widosatan.html

Have you looked on Outerzone?
There is a pile of 1/2A stuff there. In particular are profile models with built up wings. The Outerzone search works well if you know a model's name. Otherwise, the advanced search works great for searching by particulars...wing span, CL, trainer , sport...etc.
DuaneH from CEF parked a copy of the Top Flite Junior Aces models up there:
https://outerzone.co.uk/plan_details.asp?ID=13602

I like this one too;
https://outerzone.co.uk/plan_details.asp?ID=4409

Don't ask me why, but I'm a sucker for this one:
https://outerzone.co.uk/plan_details.asp?ID=12606

Then there is Hippocketaeronautics: https://www.hippocketaeronautics.com/hpa_forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=18108.0;attach=126731;image

And there is AeroFred.com too: https://aerofred.com/details.php?image_id=79651

The above are listed only so you can find the sites. A lot of models are available from each of them.