Author Topic: Cox engines (Read 8062 times)

Bill Little · « **on:** December 14, 2006, 09:16:26 AM »

I want to get a Queen Bee and I have a 1/2A Snapper to build.

This probably doesn't belong here, but no one will see it in the Classifieds!!!!

Anyone want to part with a running Babe Bee and a Pee Wee .020?? (I've NEVER had an .020!)

Cosmetics are a "non-issue".

Thanks,
Bill <><

minnesotamodeler · « **Reply #1 on:** December 14, 2006, 03:45:50 PM »

Bill, I set up the Snapper firewall for a long-tank Cox (Black Widow, Golden Bee, etc.)--to use a Babe Bee you will have to use a 1/4" thick block under the engine, or else trim off the fuselage sides and top 1/4", or else move the firewall forward 1/4".

I was just downstairs measuring, and actually there's about 1/8" clearance behind the prop as is; so you might get by with a 1/8" spacer and a little sandpaper.

Not a major problem; just FYI.

--Ray

frank carlisle · « **Reply #2 on:** December 14, 2006, 06:26:17 PM »

Hey Ray---we could almost call the 1/2A forum the Minnesota Modeler page!! Not too shabby.

minnesotamodeler · « **Reply #3 on:** December 14, 2006, 08:01:05 PM »

Just goes to show you I'm a glutton for punishment...not many modelers specializing in the little stuff, they're smarter than that.

--Ray

Bill Little · « **Reply #4 on:** December 14, 2006, 11:22:49 PM »

Quote from: minnesotamodeler on December 14, 2006, 03:45:50 PM

Bill, I set up the Snapper firewall for a long-tank Cox (Black Widow, Golden Bee, etc.)--to use a Babe Bee you will have to use a 1/4" thick block under the engine, or else trim off the fuselage sides and top 1/4", or else move the firewall forward 1/4".

I was just downstairs measuring, and actually there's about 1/8" clearance behind the prop as is; so you might get by with a 1/8" spacer and a little sandpaper.

Not a major problem; just FYI.

--Ray

Hi Ray,

Thanks for that information! I have a few of the big tank Cox engines, so I will go with one! I have only flown one .049 in the past 40 years!

I am REALLY looking more forward to this one each day.

Bill <><

Leroy Heikes · « **Reply #5 on:** December 15, 2006, 06:44:35 AM »

Bill;
I'll check my stash I might have an extra 0.02. I have the one I'm going to use, but I might still have a some others in storage in a box way back under the bench. I had a coworker a few years ago give me a shoe box with several tiny engines in it. They may be 0.02 or they my even be 0.01 I will have to look.

Leroy

minnesotamodeler · « **Reply #6 on:** December 15, 2006, 08:34:40 AM »

Leroy,

If you do turn up a .010, I may be interested in it. Never saw an engine that small!

--Ray

frank carlisle · « **Reply #7 on:** December 15, 2006, 12:13:12 PM »

Guys,
While we're talking about needing engines....I would like to put in a request for a TeeDee .049------I have a Pinto kit here I'd like to put one in.

Mike Spiess · « **Reply #8 on:** December 16, 2006, 10:06:53 AM »

Hey Frank the Pinto brings back alot of memories. I learned the whole pattern on a Pinto. It was also the first plane I built from plans. Wow it was also the only plane that flew right off the board, I still have the TD I used in it. And the tail I have a picture but it's in very bad shape.
I built it in 1976.

frank carlisle · « **Reply #9 on:** December 16, 2006, 02:59:24 PM »

You're right about the picture being raatty Mike, but the plane looks great. Now if I can just get my hands on a good TEE DEE...................................

Bill Gruby · « **Reply #10 on:** December 16, 2006, 03:05:07 PM »

If you haven't seen this yet, you 1/2A enthusiasts are gonna love this.

Link http://www.mh-aerotools.de

On English side click on Model Aero-----Scroll index to Cox Engines and have fun, you might want to bookmark this one.

Bill Gruby

Mike Spiess · « **Reply #11 on:** December 16, 2006, 03:10:34 PM »

I've got 3 plans and a RSM kit of it. I was going to use a norvel in my next one. I have 4 norvels. They all seem to run great. As good or better than the TD.

frank carlisle · « **Reply #12 on:** December 16, 2006, 03:31:32 PM »

Thanks for the very interesting link you left us Bill. It's great to find this stuff.

Mike are you going to use the Norvel .049 or the .061?

Mike Spiess · « **Reply #13 on:** December 16, 2006, 03:50:59 PM »

I don't know. An interesting story though my son designed and built a P38 profile for 1/2 A's like Dick Sarpolis. He grab 2 novel motors to put on it. It flew great and sounded neat. It wasn't till it crashed did we know it had one .049 and one .061. couldn't tell the difference.

frank carlisle · « **Reply #14 on:** December 16, 2006, 11:02:41 PM »

Quote from: Mike Spiess on December 16, 2006, 03:50:59 PM

I don't know. An interesting story though my son designed and built a P38 profile for 1/2 A's like Dick Sarpolis. He grab 2 novel motors to put on it. It flew great and sounded neat. It wasn't till it crashed did we know it had one .049 and one .061. couldn't tell the difference.

heh heh heh..................

Leroy Heikes · « **Reply #15 on:** December 17, 2006, 08:43:35 AM »

Frank;
You are in luck! I have a TD 0.049 you could have it is gummed up, and doesn't have the prop screw. I'll let you have it if you want. I had it in a RC plane back in 88-89, and it was at the bottom of an old box.
Bill,
I have a spare 0.020, but two of the mounting lugs are broken, the needle valve is bent and no glow plug. I'll also let you have that one if you want.
I was unable to find the little 0.010 yet.

Leroy

Mike Spiess · « **Reply #16 on:** December 17, 2006, 09:55:10 AM »

Hey Frank I've got a bunch of 5-40 allen bolts for the cox prop bolts let me know if you need some or one.

minnesotamodeler · « **Reply #17 on:** December 17, 2006, 04:02:02 PM »

Sounds like you're in business for your Pinto, Frank.

Pics, you know...

--Ray

frank carlisle · « **Reply #18 on:** December 17, 2006, 05:36:32 PM »

Leroy -- Mike here is my address........If you guys haven't got a copy of my Bi-Slob video '06.......please let me send you each copy to show my gratitude.

Frank Carlisle
5930 Hereford
Detroit, Mich. 48224

Leroy Heikes · « **Reply #19 on:** December 18, 2006, 09:01:37 AM »

Frank;
I'll get that engine in the mail this week. Is that a new Bi-Slob video? If it is I'll take a copy. I have the first Bi-Slob video you did.

Leroy

frank carlisle · « **Reply #20 on:** December 18, 2006, 10:40:15 AM »

Leroy----I'm planning on putting together Bi-Slob 2 during the Christmas break. I'll send you the first copy. I should probably utograph it for you so tht it will be worth more when I am rich and famous.

Mike Spiess · « **Reply #21 on:** December 18, 2006, 06:37:00 PM »

I've got the address on the envelop and am digging out the bolts you my have to cut them shorter for your needs. I got them long way back when that way they would work with any spinner.
Bi-Slob video that'll just make me want to build one. Then I'll become addicted

Mike Spiess · « **Reply #22 on:** December 18, 2006, 06:59:12 PM »

Their in the mail

minnesotamodeler · « **Reply #23 on:** December 18, 2006, 11:58:34 PM »

[ I should probably utograph it for you so tht it will be worth more when I am rich and famous.

Quote

I don't know if we can wait that long.

--Ray

Leroy Heikes · « **Reply #24 on:** December 19, 2006, 05:08:17 AM »

Frank;
You are allready famous, or at least your a legend here on the west side of the state.

The rich thing you'll just have to work on that.

Leroy

PS I have those engines boxed up, but forgot to put them in the car last night.

Bill Little · « **Reply #25 on:** December 20, 2006, 08:33:02 AM »

OK, guys, now that y'all have had your "Mutual Admiration Society Meeting" (

),

DOES ANYONE HAVE A SPARE BABE BEE .049 (short tank)??

That was the original intent of the post.

Thanks!
Bill <><

minnesotamodeler · « **Reply #26 on:** December 20, 2006, 09:00:49 AM »

Hey Bill,

I have a short tank for a Babe Bee, just no engine...it will fit, of course, on any of the reed-valve .049s, including those cheap "sure-start"s. You could build your own Babe Bee!

If you could use it, let me know. Free for nothin', it's just gathering dust here and I'll never use it.

--Ray

Mike Spiess · « **Reply #27 on:** December 20, 2006, 03:36:12 PM »

I've got an extra one too

Leroy Heikes · « **Reply #28 on:** December 22, 2006, 10:49:35 AM »

Bill;
I sent the engine to you. I was able to get it in the mail Wed.
Frank;
I have that little TD in the mail to you also. The Needle valve is taped to the inside of the box.

Leroy

Bill Little · « **Reply #29 on:** December 22, 2006, 12:24:13 PM »

Quote from: Leroy Heikes on December 22, 2006, 10:49:35 AM

Bill;
I sent the engine to you. I was able to get it in the mail Wed.
Frank;
I have that little TD in the mail to you also. The Needle valve is taped to the inside of the box.

Leroy

Thanks, Leroy!
Bill <><

Alan Hahn · « **Reply #30 on:** December 22, 2006, 05:40:01 PM »

One comment about not being able to tell the 061 Norvel from the 049. I have flown both, and a good 061 can turn a black 5x4 Tornado Magnum >22Krpm, but the 049 needs the 5x3 to get that fast. Could be your son (luckily) had the 061 on the inboard wing.

Bill Little · « **Reply #31 on:** December 24, 2006, 12:19:56 AM »

Quote from: Leroy Heikes on December 22, 2006, 10:49:35 AM

Bill;
I sent the engine to you. I was able to get it in the mail Wed.
Frank;
I have that little TD in the mail to you also. The Needle valve is taped to the inside of the box.

Leroy

Hi Leroy,

Got the little bugger today! Just in time for Christmas.

Thanks, and Merry Christmas!
Bill <><

Bill Little · « **Reply #32 on:** December 24, 2006, 12:21:14 AM »

Quote from: minnesotamodeler on December 20, 2006, 09:00:49 AM

Hey Bill,

I have a short tank for a Babe Bee, just no engine...it will fit, of course, on any of the reed-valve .049s, including those cheap "sure-start"s. You could build your own Babe Bee!

If you could use it, let me know. Free for nothin', it's just gathering dust here and I'll never use it.

--Ray

Hi Ray,

That would be great! I have a couple of good crankcases (complete) that I can use it on.

Bill <><

minnesotamodeler · « **Reply #33 on:** December 24, 2006, 01:05:02 AM »

Hi Bill,

On its way (well, will be Tuesday).

--Ray

Clancy Arnold · « **Reply #34 on:** December 24, 2006, 08:13:26 AM »

Mile
Part of the reason your son could run mixed sized engines on his P-38 is the design "Kelly" Johnson came up with in the first place.

Two tests of his design: Lackheed test pilot Tony LeVier once took a P-38 off on one engine by taxing in ever greater circles until he had rudder control to hold it straight. The second test was at the 1983 FAI Scale team trials when I lost the left engine on the 5th lap but was able to complete the 10 laps to qualify the flight.
Clancy

Mike Spiess · « **Reply #35 on:** December 24, 2006, 08:37:41 AM »

Hey Clancy
The plane would fly really well on one motor inboard or out board. I'm planning on building another this winter just for fun.

frank carlisle · « **Reply #36 on:** December 24, 2006, 05:16:03 PM »

Got the TeeDee yesterday Leroy.....Thanks man. I'll clean it up aand put it to good use.

I also got the prop screw from you Mike so I'm allset. Feels great thanks guys.

Clancy Arnold · « **Reply #37 on:** December 24, 2006, 07:41:32 PM »

Mike
My P-38 was in Model Aviation, March 1986 and is available as Plans # 505. It is bigger that what we talk about here, 2 each ST 35's, 65 inch wing span and 12 lbs.
Clancy

Robert McHam · « **Reply #38 on:** January 06, 2007, 07:00:30 PM »

frank carlisle said:
"I have a Pinto kit here I'd like to put one in."

I loved my Pinto years ago. ai bought the plans from Flying Models soon as I could scrape uip the money ans built my first and only model of it.

Thing is, I had no idea it wae available inh kit form till recently. Was it kitted by someone else before RSM? If so by who and when? I scratched mine. Would have been nice to have had a kit.

Robert

Joey Mathison 9806 · « **Reply #39 on:** January 07, 2007, 04:51:50 PM »

some 1./2 motors

minnesotamodeler · « **Reply #40 on:** January 07, 2007, 09:41:16 PM »

I don't see an .010 in the bunch.

--Ray

George · « **Reply #41 on:** January 09, 2007, 08:27:40 AM »

Quote from: minnesotamodeler on January 07, 2007, 09:41:16 PM

I don't see an .010 in the bunch.

--Ray

No, but I think there are a couple of K&B Infant .020's and a K&B .035 over toward the left.

George

Joey Mathison 9806 · « **Reply #42 on:** January 10, 2007, 06:37:05 PM »

good eyes there george

Author Topic: Cox engines (Read 8062 times)

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