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Dennis Moritz:
how sad and maddening. What's the point of keeping this thread. Since no one steps up to protest the hideous blockage of aid to an invaded Democratic nation. A nation heroically fighting to stay independent.

Paul Smith:
During The Cold War, 1945 through 1991, the USA provided the weapons, money, and fighting men to contain the USSR, now again called "Russia".

During those 46 year billions and billions of dollar were spent on weapons that became obsolete and were scrapped out without even bien used.

Now, in The Ukraine, we have good fighting men ready and willing to kill The Russians, and out criminal president won't even give them some old ammunition. Hell, Biden won't need it.  He's too senile to fight anybody.

Here's a president who blew out four Trillion dollars in giveaways just to bribe his vote stuffers.

Paul Smith:
In checking out the BAE Systems site and a few other public sources I was able to find this.

Israel has 280 AGS-aimed 155mm Paladin guns (have guns will travel).  The Muslim Hamas Gazas are yelping about this.
At total of 1,729 of these weapons have been sold to 23 Islamic nations, including Israel's enemies.
Current free world production is only 100,000 rounds of 155mm ammunition per year.
The Ukraine has been consuming 10,000 rounds per day during major actions.  This is unsustainable.
Fear not!  The USA and the EU have increased production, productivity and productiveness so that in 2025 the output of 155mm projectiles  will be over 1.7 Million rounds.  This will assure that BOTH The Ukraine and Israel will be able to hold off their enemies without the need to ration ammunition.

Israel's Paladins include the latest BAE military grade GPS that assures that every round will destroy its target with zero chance of collateral damage.

john e. holliday:
Well if we had politicians with common sense the Ukraine would not be in trouble and Putin would be begging for help as if he hasn't gotten already from our current government.   What irks me is browsing throgh the internet I see one that says Ukraine is doing good  and the next says the Russians are doing good.  It would be great if the media would just tell the truth. S?P

pmackenzie:

--- Quote from: Paul Smith on February 20, 2024, 11:44:25 AM ---During The Cold War, 1945 through 1991, the USA provided the weapons, money, and fighting men to contain the USSR, now again called "Russia".

During those 46 year billions and billions of dollar were spent on weapons that became obsolete and were scrapped out without even bien used.

Now, in The Ukraine, we have good fighting men ready and willing to kill The Russians, and out criminal president won't even give them some old ammunition. Hell, Biden won't need it.  He's too senile to fight anybody.

Here's a president who blew out four Trillion dollars in giveaways just to bribe his vote stuffers.

--- End quote ---

Odd take, considering it is Speaker Johnson (and the Maga minority in the house that hold him hostage) who refuses to take up a bill on sending additional military aid to Ukraine.
The fact that the  majority of the public, members of congress and the Senate are in favour of it seems not to matter.

If you are not aware of this, you might want to expand your sources of information.

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