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Design => Stunt design => Topic started by: Larry Wong on March 27, 2007, 07:10:12 PM

Title: When is it NEW!
Post by: Larry Wong on March 27, 2007, 07:10:12 PM

OK Guys  What is NEW?   and Original.   Nobler  with  changes  to be a Chizler ? example   there are Designs with same Numbers and diffrent shapes , or size difference of tips , rudders  or same wing with thicker airfoil , diffrent landing gear location.  So what make's it Original ?  (  Paint Job )   HB~>  LL~  n~

Title: Re: When is it NEW!
Post by: Randy Powell on March 28, 2007, 12:16:40 PM

maybe a canard pusher designed to look like an X-Wing fighter? That would be "new"

Title: Re: When is it NEW!
Post by: phil c on March 28, 2007, 05:34:56 PM

I'd say it's new and original when you start with an empty bench and a blank sheet of paper.  No cutting and whittling and using parts from another plane allowed.

Title: Re: When is it NEW!
Post by: Clint Ormosen on March 29, 2007, 10:47:10 PM

When you change the color and name on the wing, it's new!  ;D

Title: Re: When is it NEW!
Post by: Randy Powell on March 29, 2007, 10:51:39 PM

Phil,

Well, that's pretty much me every time (except when I build a classic plane...then I have plans). I even make my own bellcranks, carbon parts, tanks and such. But I do usually buy control horns and engine. Oh, and spinner. I've used "store bought" props and have made my own a time or two.

Title: Re: When is it NEW!
Post by: phil c on March 30, 2007, 09:53:19 AM

You always come up with pretty, original planes Randy.  Too bad the tanks, bellcranks, etc. don't show too.

Title: Re: When is it NEW!
Post by: Randy Powell on March 30, 2007, 02:53:51 PM

Hi Phil,

I don't know that my tanks are ever works of art, but they work fine. The bellcranks are pretty, though.

Title: Re: When is it NEW!
Post by: Jim Pollock on May 19, 2007, 10:08:56 AM

O.K. Larry, you asked for it, so here is my version of New....

When you can take an existing designs parameters and mold it into a new shape and or size.  And yes, use
some existing parts of other airplanes to do it.  That's how I build my simi-scale Akromaster by using the
Gieseke Nobler plans.  The two airplanes look completely different, but flight characteristics have a lot
of similarities.  Or otherwise, start with nothing and an airplane you like the looks of pops out onto the
tarmac.

Jim Pollock   :o

Title: Re: When is it NEW!
Post by: L0U CRANE on May 21, 2007, 12:31:28 AM

Larry,

It can be considered new when you bring it out at some site or contest where there are several highly knowledgeable guys, and THEY ask you what it is...

This is based on the knowledgeables having a good grasp of the most commonly shown - or modified - "standard" designs. If you did start with someone else's design, you can tell them, for example, it's Clyde Smythe-Whyte's SILVIA from a 1952 UK Ian Allan Model Aircraft magazine, if you'd like. Bring documentation, however.  ;D