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Title: Profile Douglas Skyraider design
Post by: Don Hutchinson AMA5402 on July 13, 2009, 01:16:53 PM
The Douglas A-1H Skyraider drawings are ready to ship. This is warbird # 9 for 36 to 40 engines. Very scale in profile and a fine profile stunt event design. Lots of colorful paint schemes posssible on this one!
Don
Title: Re: Profile Douglas Skyraider design
Post by: Airacobra on July 14, 2009, 06:49:24 AM
How much are the plans Don? This one has peaked my interest.
Title: Re: Profile Douglas Skyraider design
Post by: Wayne J. Buran on July 15, 2009, 08:37:11 PM
Don, how much for the plans? I can see it camo circa 1965-66 up country Thailand.
Thanks
Wayne
Title: Re: Profile Douglas Skyraider design
Post by: Bill Hummel on July 17, 2009, 07:43:35 AM
Just received the Skyraider plans, outstanding! Don really captured the "look" of this classy warbird. Gotta give this one an "A +" rating! Thanks, Don.
Title: Re: Profile Douglas Skyraider design
Post by: Gordon Tarbell on July 18, 2009, 10:38:01 PM
what are the numbers on this? WS , length,  wing area?
Title: Re: Profile Douglas Skyraider design
Post by: Don Hutchinson AMA5402 on July 19, 2009, 01:11:41 PM
Like the other single engine warbirds, about 500 sq ins wing area, ~56 span, ~40 long for a good 40 or 36 engine. Very close to scale profile, complete with tailhook! Design aimed at being a very good stunt airplane. The SBD Dauntless flies exceptionally well and I expect the Skyraider will be just as good. In actuality, all the warbirds are about the same in areas and moments, they just have different shapes. All the aero engineers from WWII seem to have attended the same school of design!
Don
Title: Re: Profile Douglas Skyraider design
Post by: Douglas Ames on September 17, 2009, 05:18:11 PM
Don-
Could you list all the available warbird designs from you?
Do you have a picture of a completed Corsair?

Thanx, Doug
Title: Re: Profile Douglas Skyraider design
Post by: Don Hutchinson AMA5402 on September 17, 2009, 09:32:43 PM
Here's the list.
1- North American T-6-G
2- Douglas SBD Dauntless
3- Curtiss P-40 C and Q versions on one print
4- Grumman F6F Hellcat
5- Lockheed P-38 Lightning
6- Vought F4U Corsair F4U and F2G versions on one print
7- Stearman PT-17/N2S3
8- Beechcraft D17 Staggerwing
9- Douglas A-1H Skyraider
10-Grumman TBF Avenger
To my knowledge, only 1 T-6, 2 SBD's and 1 Stearman have been finished.
Interesting Elwyn Aud photo to verify these are fairly close to scale.
Title: Re: Profile Douglas Skyraider design
Post by: phil c on September 18, 2009, 01:31:07 PM
Most of the WW-II era planes, like the ones in the list, fighters/fighter bombers, had similar missions, used similar engine technology and fuel, and similar materials.  So they ended up having similar performance.  The most interesting article I read that showed this was  by a Grumman test pilot.  They were trying to figure out why the Hellcat appeared to be slower than the Corsair.  Again similar size and weight, identical engines, they should have been very close.  Turned out they had the pitot tube system improperly designed.  When they got it sorted out the planes showed nearly identical speeds and performance.

The biggest difference I've found between them is that most of the Grumman designs featured somewhat larger stabs, upwards of 25% of the wing area.  That makes them ideal for modeling with very little need to fudge the shapes.  I've also found that even if you go for some of the outliers, like the Focke Wulf 190, the relatively small stab works pretty well on the long fuselage.  The tail volume is similar to the others, so that's where it's at.

Most of these planes would be good candidates for a re-look, considering the current trend to large engines in smaller airframes.  They tended to have short noses(at least the radial engined planes) and can use a heavier engine than a typical stunter.
Title: Re: Profile Douglas Skyraider design
Post by: Douglas Ames on September 20, 2009, 07:35:26 PM
The Douglas A-1H Skyraider drawings are ready to ship. This is warbird # 9 for 36 to 40 engines. Very scale in profile and a fine profile stunt event design. Lots of colorful paint schemes posssible on this one!
Don
One of my favorites! A Limey AEW from the Suez crisis, circa 1956