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Design => Stunt design => Topic started by: Avaiojet on February 23, 2012, 02:56:26 PM
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Some projects you just put aside, and you actually can forget them for years, and years. I know I do.
Well, I am using a wing to an Ares I built in the 60's. Brought that out of dry dock, so, the wing, that's spoken for.
But what about the rest of the stuff?
That wing and my Ares, was to be a twin boom. My second twin boom actually, I did build a twin boom Ares and posted a photo of that, taken in 1962. Remember?
So, I'm thinking about this song today by Van Morrison called Chick-A-Boom.
I don't know why, but I'm attempting the lyrics as best I can. I have a hearing issue, so I sometimes make up my own words, drives friends crazy.
So I'm singing this thing, Boom Chicka Boom Boom Boom. Boom Chicka Boom Boom Boom. OK, I'll stop at two.
So then I'm thinking, what a great name for a twin boom CL model!
Well, guess what? I have enough stuff hanging around to build the "Chick-A-Boom."
I have the two booms, I have the nose of the Ares, and a couple of rudders.
So I dug the stuff up, added a partially framed wing I built some years ago, and this is what I came up with!
Doesn't look like much now, but give me a couple of months.
If there's interest I'll kit it!!
I should have placed this photo in. My twin boom Ares, 1962. That's not me.
Charles
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Those rudders give it a look similar to Jack Sheek's La Donna, ;D
I suspect that the tiny piece you have in place of the elevator is not the actual part. It needs a bit more elevator than that. ;D
Get 'er done!
BIG Bear
RNMM/AMM
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Bill,
I couldn't find anything on the Jack Sheek's La Donna model? I'd like to see it.
Jack Sheek is in the AMA Hall of Fame! I read his Bio.
FYI. The rudders are Ares, just a tad different.
The nose is Ares, needs a bit of work, but it has to be changed a bit anyway. Yes, that's not the elevator. just a prop for the photo.
The two booms I'm using as is. As you can see in the last photo, there's plenty of flap area.
That wing is just a Sig Banshee with modified and extended wingtips and added ribs.
My original, and a second BTW, had tri-gear. Not sure I want that here? Just a wheel not needed and extra weight.
Span is 57"
Not sure what will power it yet?
So, in all honesty, the photos are no setup for a joke. I wouldn't do that.
I'm building that model.
So, when I say, "If there's interest, I'll kit it," I meant it. The wing you get from Sig, I'll outline the changes.
Certainly doesn't look like much now, but it'll come together.
You'll see.
Charles
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I couldn't find anything on the Jack Sheek's La Donna model? I'd like to see it.
http://www.clstunt.com/htdocs/dc/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=103&topic_id=318902
Link says it all really, and note well the tiny elevator on the shown plans (Charles ain't that far off it really).
Cheers.
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That's interesting, the similarities.
Gotta remember, I designed my twin boom Ares in early 1961. I built the second one in early 1962. That photo, of my design, is dated front and back. I was 15 years old for the first model.
I never heard of Jack Sheek till this Thread or his model.
I do like his better with those rudders, I may consider that.
His elevator, could have had a bit more area.
My original model had a setback in the LE. I should build another wing?
Now I have to finish it.
Thanks for that.
Charles
PS,
I just took a look at Jack's plans. He did the same thing I did with the location of his bellcrank. Placed it at the outer boom!
I'm deffinetely going to take this model a bit more serious.
Anyone up for a better name?
Madonna.
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Charles rather than me doing all the searching/copying and pasting why not duck over to Stuka Stunt and do a search for the word 'LaDonna.'
There is a fantastic build series there, one that I am sure that most fliers could learn a lot from.
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Charles rather than me doing all the searching/copying and pasting why not duck over to Stuka Stunt and do a search for the word 'LaDonna.'There is a fantastic build series there, one that I am sure that most fliers could learn a lot from.
Chris,
I don't normally spend a great deal of time over there. But I did take a quick peek last night. I did see that Jack's design was kitted, a compliment actually. Be interesting to hear about how Jack's La Donna flew? Be nice to see photos of finished LaDonna's.
Mine handled quite well. That's why I built the second, and started a third.
The parts to the third, which I'm using above, will give the model a different look than my original design, sans the leading edge setback. Models with LE setbacks look so much nicer. IMHO.
I'll have to live with it because I hate building wings, considered it, but I'll use what's hanging around.
Thanks for the interest.
Charles
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HI Charles,
I cannot believe you had never heard of Jack Sheeks! He is the most prolific publisher of Stunt Model Articles ever. It was hard to pick up a model magazine in the mid '60s with out seeing a model Jack had designed published in it. He has dozens of articles.
BIG Bear
RNMM/AMM
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HI Charles,
I cannot believe you had never heard of Jack Sheeks! He is the most prolific publisher of Stunt Model Articles ever. It was hard to pick up a model magazine in the mid '60s with out seeing a model Jack had designed published in it. He has dozens of articles.BIG BearRNMM/AMM
Well, believe it because it's true. I left CL in early 1964. When I came back into modeling, it was all R/C.
I've also stated, long ago, I had little interest in articles in model magazines. Still don't. I've never read an entire article in any model magazine, including R/C. Will I be punished for this? ;D
Oh, BTW.
Played with "Madanna" last night.
Found out you do have to give some thought, to old parts that have been glued for 49 years. Especially with Ambroid.
So I gave "Madanna" the nose test and she failed, badly in fact. Every nose piece came apart with a tug and the help of a screwdriver. Quite easily actually.
Now I'm deciding if I should use these parts or not? Possibly just a few.
As a kid, I had more glue, on the left shoulder of my T-shirts, than on the model. Right thigh also. Sound familiar?
Charles
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I mentioned above that the modified wing kit I was using was a Sig Banshee. This is incorrect.
It's actually a Sig Twister.
Charles
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I'm reading and wondering what "LE setback" is. I envisioned a notch in the center area, like some combat designs used to get the engine back and CG correct, before long tail designs came into vogue. Went back up to the last picture ("Don Hartman"), and no such thing. Leading edge sweepback has a new name? No thanks! j1
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I'm reading and wondering what "LE setback" is. I envisioned a notch in the center area, like some combat designs used to get the engine back and CG correct, before long tail designs came into vogue. Went back up to the last picture ("Don Hartman"), and no such thing. Leading edge sweepback has a new name? No thanks! j1
Steve,
Good point. I believe you are correct. "Sweepback" is actully what it is.
I stand corrected.
Thanks for picking up on that.
Any reply is a good one even if it's critical. n~
I actually worked on the wing today and the engine rails. Is that what they are called?
Charles