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Title: jet fuel
Post by: bob whitney on February 29, 2024, 10:38:55 AM
in 80/20 jet fuel what is 80 and what is 20  is it 80 meth and 20 nitro???
Title: Re: jet fuel
Post by: Dave Rigotti on February 29, 2024, 11:27:49 AM
yes

in 80/20 jet fuel what is 80 and what is 20  is it 80 meth and 20 nitro???
Title: Re: jet fuel
Post by: bill bischoff on February 29, 2024, 04:18:54 PM
C'mon, Bob, it's in the Rule Book! CL Speed, paragraph 7.  n~
Title: Re: jet fuel
Post by: Dennis Toth on March 13, 2024, 02:21:20 PM
With fuel cost going up and jet fuel being 20% nitro and each run using 8+ oz for Sport Jet why not go back to simple Coleman fuel (white gas)? If everyone is using the same fuel supplied by the contest all is on a level field and easy to get. Just a fun event to make some noise and fly some cool speed ships, makes sense.

Best,   DennisT
Title: Re: jet fuel
Post by: Dave Rigotti on March 13, 2024, 03:27:26 PM
Not to me.  It's not like "we" fly a hundred flights away from a contest environment.  Cost of "jet fuel" is the least of my concerns.
Title: Re: jet fuel
Post by: Paul Smith on March 13, 2024, 04:39:07 PM
The jet flyers back at Rouge Park in Detroit just used gasoline.  At the time $.79 per gallon, now $3.299.  But still less than high priced model fuel.
Title: Re: jet fuel
Post by: bill bischoff on March 13, 2024, 07:37:14 PM
Let's say nitro from the hot rod shop is $50 per gallon and methanol is $10. That's only $18.00 per gallon for 80/20 jet fuel. That's actually cheaper than a lot of glow fuels on the market today. In the overall scheme of things, jet fliers aren't worried about the cost of fuel.
Title: Re: jet fuel
Post by: bob whitney on March 14, 2024, 12:07:43 AM
why is it that flyers that don't even fly the event are always ready to make it better?
Title: Re: jet fuel
Post by: Dave Rigotti on March 14, 2024, 06:06:05 AM
Wise beyond your years!

why is it that flyers that don't even fly the event are always ready to make it better?
Title: Re: jet fuel
Post by: BillLee on March 14, 2024, 06:11:14 AM
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Title: Re: jet fuel
Post by: Mark wood on May 24, 2024, 09:11:38 PM
Flying Jets are a big hoot...
Title: Re: jet fuel
Post by: Motorman on May 27, 2024, 07:56:55 PM
Is gas harder to use? Which fuel makes the least noise and is it a big difference?
Title: Re: jet fuel
Post by: Mark wood on May 28, 2024, 12:05:16 AM
Is gas harder to use? Which fuel makes the least noise and is it a big difference?

Not really. A pulse jet will run just about anything that will burn. The biggest trouble is figuring out the correct fuel air ratio. That's an assumption based upon the tube and valve geometry will "ring" properly. All the fuels will make a bucket ton of noise. That's the whole point... Running jets is a manly kind of thing involving fire, noise and danger.
Title: Re: jet fuel
Post by: Mike Hazel on May 28, 2024, 07:39:56 AM
As Mark said, a pulse jet will run on almost anything..... just need the correct metering jet to make it do so.  Automotive gasoline will work, but has an extremely limited combustion range.  There is no such thing as "white gas" anymore.  The competition fuel formula of 80/20 alky/nitro works pretty well and has a much wider combustion range.