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Speed,Combat,Scale,Racing => Scale Models => Topic started by: t michael jennings on March 01, 2013, 09:01:01 AM
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Gentlemen,
In the process of building a Don Sill (Hobby Helper) Stuka Stunt.
Plan to paint the aircraft similar to the attached photo.
Not sure about the fuselage markings. The photo shows the following;
S1 (iron cross) GK
with the G in the white band.
What would the fuselage markings be on the opposite side of the fuselage?
S1 (iron cross) GK with the 1 in the white band
or
GK (iron cross) S1
with the K in the white band.
Thanks for the feedback.
T Michael Jennings :-\
Knoxville, TN.
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Michael,
I found a source, and it may well be the same source as yours, for that color profile you attached to your post. My reference does not show any more detail than your profile illustration. If you are not able to find any documentation that shows the specific coloring and markings for the right side of that airplane, and given the left side markings show as you wrote:
S1 + GK with the G in the white band.
The right side markings will also read from left (from the tail) to right (toward the nose)
S1 + GK
In other words, the letters/numbers on the fuselages of German WWII aircraft will read in the same sequence from left side of the fuselage to the right side. The crosses will be in the same location on the left and right sides of fuselage. I have more than a "few" references that illustrated this including the Profile Publication No. 76 on the Ju 87.
Now, since that white band can be assumed that it goes completely around the fuselage without any discontinuity at the fuselage vertical centerline, then the numeral "1" will in all likelihood be in the white band on the right side of the fuselage.
There are some very knowledgeable people on this forum that will likely have an opinion regarding the correct answer to you question, but for a semi-scale stunt model of Don Still's Stuka Stunt, the above explanation regarding the "1" being in the white band on the right side of the fuselage should suffice.
Keith
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Michael,
this document from "Luftwaffe Colours 1935-1945" by Michael Ullmann seems to answer your question.
Chuck
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I think the British do the same thing.
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Gentlemen,
Thanks for the assistance.
T Michael Jennings
Knoxville, TN
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Here's photos of both sides of a Ju87G-2 I found at http://www.cybermodeler.com/aircraft/ju87/ju87g2_walk.shtml
http://www.cybermodeler.com/aircraft/ju87/images/rafm_ju87_10.jpg
http://www.cybermodeler.com/aircraft/ju87/images/rafm_ju87_08.jpg
At the same site is this Ju 87B Stuka:
http://www.cybermodeler.com/aircraft/ju87/ju87b_walk.shtml
Both aircraft appear to use the same marking system.
I think I remember reading that the British do it the other way. That is: what's ahead of the roundel, stays ahead of the roundel.
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Gentlemen,
I could use some additional assistance for the Stuka Stunt Markings.
Does anyone have a JPEG file of a "black swastika with a white boarder."
Check the photo of the desert Stuka at the top of this topic.
Send me a PM at;
siuengr at fuzzface dot com
Thanks for your Helping Hand.
T Michael Jennings ::)
Knoxville, TN
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Michael
Get one of the squadron books about the stuka, they have all the different models and markings in the book. George
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Guillows sells decals and canopies for all their kits. They are good quality water slide type decals. They have a Stuka that is pretty large and the decals might work for you.
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Gentlemen,
One more question about the German aircraft.
Was the belly (underside) of the German Aircraft light grey or light blue?
Thanks for your input.
T Michael Jennings #^
Knoxville, TN
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Gentlemen,
One more question about the German aircraft.
Was the belly (underside) of the German Aircraft light grey or light blue?
Thanks for your input.
T Michael Jennings #^
Knoxville, TN
Hi T Michael,
The Germans used a color called "hellblau" which is a very pale blue.
BIG Bear
RNMM/AMM
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[quote author=t D>.
Was the belly (underside) of the German Aircraft light grey or light blue?
T Michael Jennings #^
Knoxville, TN
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Depends on the airplane. Some had a light blue, some had a light grey, some others were different. There are a number of authoritative books on WW II German aircraft coloring. One of the better ones is The Official Monogram Painting guide to German Aircraft 1935-1945. Generally, the undersides of most of the various types of aircraft described in that book is the light blue described by Bill above. Night fighter undersides could be the light blue or RLM Gray (a light gray). I have some other references that show some aircraft for night operations had black or dark gray undersides.
Keith
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Bill,
Keith,
Thanks for the helping info.
T Michael Jennings ;D
Knoxville, TN