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Speed,Combat,Scale,Racing => Scale Models => Topic started by: Hoss Cain on March 16, 2011, 01:36:53 AM
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It has been a very long time since I flew any scale model in competition. Since I am trying to correct that with a CL scale model I have been reading the rules however all the mumbo-jumbo now associated with AMA Rules makes me wonder about some things.
For example: "If the pilot is visible in flight in the prototype aircraft then a man-shaped dummy pilot of scale size and width must be visible in the model during flight."
Notice the term "....man-shaped...". Is that for real or used such as "mankind" terminology? I like "Pilots" in my models, but not just "man-shaped" more like just shaped.
If I show up at the NATs with my usual, will I be rejected? mw~
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You will be disqualified as she is not "man" shaped....she's "woman" shaped. SHEESH! LL~ H^^
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I have never yet seen a plane, including the C-5A Galaxy, in which the pilot was not visible.
If you are seriously offended by the sexist language of the rules, go ahead and submit a proposal to feminize them. In the meantime, comply!
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If you are seriously offended by the sexist language of the rules, go ahead and submit a proposal to feminize them. In the meantime, comply!
Mr. Smith, my post was and is a tangential posting aimed at humor and, yes, maybe a little jabbing at the Contest Board that makes such rules.
Since my model is a model of the personal 1:1 scale airplane owned and flown by a rather famous lady, both in the real world and in model aviation, I think I will show up with a female pilot in it, just not one as bare as my sport flying models. Now if that is found to be not legal by the "....sexist language of the rules..." as you describe, then I will cross that bridge when I get to it.
"In the meantime, comply!" That is a statement that I find very difficult to obey as I am not one of the sheep.
Therefore, you have a nice whatever of your choice, as I plan to do same.
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Well, actually, people get away with women, children, animals, and cartoon characters as pilots. That's fine with me. Anything beats an empty cockpit, which is clearly illegal, but too often ignored.
Personally, I have appropriate men in all of mine. You never know when you'll be competing against F Lee Bailey or Geoffrey Fieger.
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Not having read the scale rules yet, has somebody forgot all the ladies flying commercial, private and most of all military planes. When a fighter pilot has the shield down on the helmet and strapped into their ride, how can you tell if it is female or male.
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Personally I like Snoopy - Famous WWI pilot. Here is a picture of Snoopy stealing an Eindecker.
Snoopy was flying behind the German lines in his Dog House when the dreaded Red Baron Shot Snoopy down.
Being a great WW I war hero Snoopy avoided capture. He managed to steal, from a clothesline, the German peasant outfit he is wearing. Now that he blended with the locals he stopped at a local bar and woofed a couple of root-beers with a German lass. She told him of a great German Army air field nearby that had the latest war machine called the EINDECKER.
This gave Snoopy the idea of how to avoid capture and be a hero in the process.
Snoopy rushed to the flying field, stole this EINDECKER III and flew HOME!!!
Seriously - You read the rules - You build your model to suite your own heart - You submit your model to the judges - You don't have to like the judges score but it is final so live with it.
Now regarding the score. As always read the rules.
If the pilot is visible in flight in the prototype aircraft then a man-shaped dummy pilot of scale size and width must be visible in the model during flight. The dummy pilot figure will not be scored or considered in any way during Scale Judging. If the contestant wishes, he may present his model for Scale Judging without the pilot figure in place, and no downgrading will be done by the judges if he does so.
So if in flight the figure is man-shaped (not shaped like a donkey) it could be a boy or a girl - just so the part that is visible is humanoid shaped - it will comply with the rules.
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Thanks John.
I had forgotten that sentence in the rules. I may display my Taube without the Pilot and Observer in the plane.
Clancy
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CLANCY,
Looking at you last picture brings to mind the question - How do you handle the spinner rule on early aircraft that have no spinner. If you have a true scale prop for display it will have a nut plate with safety wires. Is it OK to use a normal prop and a spinner nut for flight?
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John
That is going to be a problem for me this year. That rule is not compatible with 4 stroke engines or using an antique aircraft as a subject!
To display it with a true scale prop I would have to cut the crankshaft and then change crankshafts to secure the prop. The prop nut furnished by OS for their FS91 SII-P engine is a two part locking system. I would then be required to add a rounded nut in front of the locking nut! What does that leave for my electric starter to engage with?
This "fix" is not allowed per the CL and RC Fixed Wing Scale rule (page SC-6) 7.5: No changes shall be made between judging and flying which alter the scale appearance of the model except as noted below.
b. The propeller spinner used in flying must be the same size, shape and color as the one presented for scale judging except that it may have a different number of cutouts for the flying prop. The nose of the spinner may be rounded to comply with the safety regulations.
Where can I buy a SMALL rounded nut for a 5/16 x 24 threaded shaft that disappears when installed?
Clancy
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John
That is going to be a problem for me this year. That rule is not compatible with 4 stroke engines. I would have to cut the crankshaft to display it with a true scale prop and then change crankshafts to secure the prop. The prop nut furnished by OS for their FS91 SII-P engine is a two part locking system. I would then be required to add a rounded nut in front of the locking nut! What does that leave for my electric starter to engage with?
Where can I buy a SMALL rounded nut for a 5/16 x 24 threaded shaft?
Clancy
For a nut
McMaster-Carr
http://www.mcmaster.com/#acorn-nuts/=bvx81r
Also a search of Tower H for prop nut turns up a bunch of choices. Dubro has large selection.
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My Great Planes Combat Spitfire has Yoda from Starwars in the cockpit, and my trainer for the boy scouts has Woody from Toy Story
The trainer is not a scale model but still deserves a pilot figure. The model was scratch built and the Woody figure came from a PEZ dispenser.
Got have some fun!
Land Softly
Fred Cronenwett
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Does anyone actually buy PEZ dispensers for the candy?