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Title: Paint question F2A Brewster Buffalo
Post by: Allen Goff on December 16, 2011, 11:51:20 AM
  D>K  The F2A Brewster is out of the paint booth. (primer) I will start wet sanding tomorrow.

Help on this part of the painting process.
On the clear coat I plan to use the two part automotive clear,(can't use dope because I use 15% nitro) but it needs to be a flat not a gloss coat. All you paint experts out there, I need your help on this one. HOW TO MAKE IT FLAT.

Blessings
Allen
Title: Re: Paint question F2A Brewster Buffalo
Post by: Michael Boucher on December 16, 2011, 12:46:25 PM
Mix in corn starch? Has anyone else heard of doing this? I thought I had read this at some point.
Title: Re: Paint question F2A Brewster Buffalo
Post by: Avaiojet on December 16, 2011, 01:19:07 PM
Mix in corn starch? Has anyone else heard of doing this? I thought I had read this at some point.

Michael,

It's Oatmeal, not corn starch.  ;D

CB
Title: Re: Paint question F2A Brewster Buffalo
Post by: Avaiojet on December 16, 2011, 01:26:01 PM
  D>K  The F2A Brewster is out of the paint booth. (primer) I will start wet sanding tomorrow.

Help on this part of the painting process.
On the clear coat I plan to use the two part automotive clear,(can't use dope because I use 15% nitro) but it needs to be a flat not a gloss coat. All you paint experts out there, I need your help on this one. HOW TO MAKE IT FLAT.BlessingsAllen

Allen,

I've never sprayed a clear coat with a look of "flat."

Being a Warbird, I would shoot the clear then use steel wool on it. Mask off and make panels. Etch in different directions?

You can purchase a "flattening agent" that is mixed with paint.

You could bring a jar to a body Shop and ask for an ounce. You'll only need a few drops.

You could use automotive "color" paints that are one stage.

CB
Title: Re: Paint question F2A Brewster Buffalo
Post by: chuck snyder on December 16, 2011, 03:20:17 PM
I'm pretty sure Klass Kote sells flattening agent. I'm guessing it is barium sulfate. You might also check with your auto paint supplier.
Chuck
Title: Re: Paint question F2A Brewster Buffalo
Post by: Mark Scarborough on December 16, 2011, 06:32:37 PM
I dont know about other brands, but PPG uses a product called IIRC Flexed and flat. Its a clear product that you add to your un-catalized clear before you mix it. Something on the ratio of equal parts clear and Flattening agent. They also sell a premixed flattening clear that you catalyze and spray however that does not allow you to adjust the ratio of how flat , semigloss, or satin you want the finished product.
I would NOT recommend randomly mixing anything with a urethane clear.
Title: Re: Paint question F2A Brewster Buffalo
Post by: wwwarbird on December 16, 2011, 10:44:12 PM
 Flat and/or satin finishes are very popular in the Hot Rod world these days, have been for a while now. I think most of the quality paint jobs are actually done using regular paint and then they get finished with a satin clearcoat. With that in mind, I'd have to assume that any knowledgeable automotive paint supplier should be able to set you up with compatible products for you to do a flat finish.

 ...don't forget to tell them that your camouflage painting your Buffalo and see what kind of look you get. ;D
Title: Re: Paint question F2A Brewster Buffalo
Post by: Mark Scarborough on December 16, 2011, 11:19:40 PM

 ...don't forget to tell them that your camouflage painting your Buffalo and see what kind of look you get. ;D
wait for it, waaaiiittt for it,,
yeah it took me a minute then I got this flash picture in my head of a buffalo standing in a field in camo colors LOL,,
hey I may be dumb, but at least I am slow,,  HB~>
Title: Re: Paint question F2A Brewster Buffalo
Post by: john e. holliday on December 17, 2011, 09:59:14 AM
Can you imagine the look on the clerks face at the auto paint  store if he says that. LL~ LL~ LL~


I am dense and had to read it a couple of times.jeh
Title: Re: Paint question F2A Brewster Buffalo
Post by: Allen Goff on December 19, 2011, 08:37:56 AM
  D>K  I called my local paint store and he informed me that PPG makes a flattner,"a universal mating agent".
The clear will mix; 4 parts clear. 1 part activator. 1 part flattner.
Thanks for your help guys, and the joke too. LL~

Blessings
Allen
Title: Re: Paint question F2A Brewster Buffalo
Post by: Wayne J. Buran on December 29, 2011, 08:20:21 PM
Brodak stocks a Randolph flattener BP-1092P (pint). $17.99 plus shipping. I also have stock.
Wayne
Title: Re: Paint question F2A Brewster Buffalo
Post by: bill bischoff on December 30, 2011, 04:37:05 PM
The reason that is so hard to flatten a buffalo is because they are so big. A regular passenger car won't do it. You need a really big truck, or possibly a freight train, in order to flatten a buffalo.
Title: Re: Paint question F2A Brewster Buffalo
Post by: Allen Goff on December 31, 2011, 07:03:16 AM
Thanks Wayne

Blessings
Allen
Title: Re: Paint question F2A Brewster Buffalo
Post by: Will Hinton on December 31, 2011, 03:31:35 PM
Anyone notice the dog peeking over the cab of the first truck in Bill's picture?  He's thinking of chewing on a steak, the heck with flattening it! LL~ LL~ LL~
Title: Re: Paint question F2A Brewster Buffalo
Post by: wwwarbird on January 02, 2012, 05:29:47 PM
The reason that is so hard to flatten a buffalo is because they are so big. A regular passenger car won't do it. You need a really big truck, or possibly a freight train, in order to flatten a buffalo.
LL~ LL~ LL~ LL~ LL~ LL~ LL~ LL~ H^^