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Title: P-38 found under water near beach....!!!!!
Post by: Shultzie on November 15, 2007, 10:37:53 AM
Check out this photo of a P-38 that has been uncovered after sand shifts near beach H^^
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Post by: dennis lipsett on November 15, 2007, 02:32:01 PM
Unfortunately long term submersion in salt water makes it impossible to restore that plane. Pity.
Dennis
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Post by: skyshark58 on November 15, 2007, 11:07:03 PM
This is the oldest P-38 known to exist. It is also the oldest 8th Airforce aircraft known to exist. It was landed in the surf off of Whales when the pilot, Lt. Elliott, ran it out of gas in 1942. It only recently came into view to be discovered.
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Post by: Chris McMillin on November 16, 2007, 03:51:36 PM
With a data plate and money, anything is restoreable these days!
Chris...
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Post by: Clint Ormosen on November 16, 2007, 09:56:55 PM
Have they at least gotten the poor thing out of the water?
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Post by: dennis lipsett on November 19, 2007, 05:45:33 AM
It's not so easy to get something out of the water. In effect removing it from the water can cause it to disintegrate unless you reimmerse it in water and then there is a process to stableize it to be once again a land based object. The only metal that doesn't corrode under salt water is of course gold, which is why fortune hunters love the stuff.
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Post by: Robert McHam on November 19, 2007, 04:12:50 PM
I guess you could say that it is sad news for such great news?




I wonder...

Nah...

On the other hand, What if some one were to salvage what there is and build a virtually new plane and then slap,the ID plate on it... Just thinking out loud. How much of the original plane must be used in order to call it restored? Seems any part that needed to be replaced in order to "keep it serviceable" would be necessary and proper.   

Robert
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Post by: PatRobinson on November 20, 2007, 08:32:39 AM
Hi guys,
There was a cable special about a P-38 recoverd from inside a galcier and there was an awful lot of money spent and a huge amount of fabrication that had to be done to bring that plane back to flying condition so I would say that Chris was dead on in his post. However, salt water obviously compicates the issue as far as structural integrity goes so someone would have to devote a decade or more of their life and multiple millions of dollars to bring that "find", back to actually being an airplane.

                                                                Pat Robinson
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Post by: Mark Scarborough on November 20, 2007, 09:22:15 AM
That P-38 is calle dthe "Glacier Girl" and is a fascinating story
heres a link for those who like this history and restoration info


http://www.thelostsquadron.com/