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New Project; F2A Brewster Buffalo
« on: December 25, 2010, 08:53:09 AM »
Have a few minutes before the family comes over for the Christmas dinner so I thought I would start the process of documenting of start to finish scratch built scale. First it will be a profile to see how it preforms, then maybe a full body scale. Looking to draw it up as a 1/6 scale. It is a BREWSTER F2A BUFFALO. Hope to have it done in time for the 2011 "Nats". Wing span somewhere around 66" and motor of choice will be a Saito .80 four stroke. So...., tomorrow we start the drawings, stay tuned. D>K.

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Re: New Project; F2A Brewster Buffalo
« Reply #1 on: December 25, 2010, 09:01:07 AM »
a few other color schemes to consider

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Re: New Project; F2A Brewster Buffalo
« Reply #2 on: December 25, 2010, 11:46:40 AM »
 Thanks for the heads-up, this is a neat original idea and will be interesting to watch progress. y1

 One point though if I may here. I've never really understood the reasoning of building a profile first just to test flight performance on a C/L model, especially a scale one. Other than for the higher-end stunt model requirements, and those same fliers looking for the ultimate competitive performance, our models aren't too tough to design as far as general flight is concerned. All the same rules will still apply whichever version is built, make it strong where it needs to be, while keeping it all light, etc., etc.
 To me at least, building a profile first just seems like a LOT of extra work, and time, to end up with the same end result. On the other hand, you can't ever have too many airplanes though! ;D
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Re: New Project; F2A Brewster Buffalo
« Reply #3 on: December 25, 2010, 03:35:43 PM »
Thomas, thanks for the colorful pics.. I do have a book (WW 2 aircraft fact files) that has those same pics. But thanks to you I don't have to scan, then print. Thanks again.

Wayne, First, I want to fly profile scale at the "Nats" so I plan to kill 2 birds with one stone. I don't know if you have flown scale before, but ask Steve Couch, or Dale Campdell and others about a test/ practice ship. Once you have your main scale, you trim then set aside. Don't risk an accident, take the profile or a lesser ship of the same design and practice with that. I have 2 biplanes that fly the same, the Waco now stays on the wall at home, only to be flown at a major contest. The Stearman is my practice ship and that is the one I practice with. Second, I want to make sure the design works before I invest 2 or more years in a full body airplane. As I found out at the FAI worlds this past summer, your airplane had better "static" good or your total score will suffer greatly. This is where the proflie comes in, less time in the construction. So much for my rambling on, by for now.

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Re: New Project; F2A Brewster Buffalo
« Reply #4 on: December 25, 2010, 04:21:07 PM »
There is quite an accurate model for the Buffalo in a '60's Model Aircraft mag, I'll do a scan here asap. I know the plan is available from www.model-plans.co.uk it's 37" span.

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Re: New Project; F2A Brewster Buffalo
« Reply #5 on: December 25, 2010, 08:47:09 PM »
If you read the Wikipedia entry on the plane you'll see it had a very mixed reception -- the US Navy hated it, yet the Finns loved it.  Other services flew it, and had reactions that hit everywhere in between those two extremes.

I'm also curious as to why you'd want to go with a profile first?
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Re: New Project; F2A Brewster Buffalo
« Reply #6 on: December 25, 2010, 10:42:37 PM »

Wayne, First, I want to fly profile scale at the "Nats" so I plan to kill 2 birds with one stone. I don't know if you have flown scale before, but ask Steve Couch, or Dale Campdell and others about a test/ practice ship. Once you have your main scale, you trim then set aside. Don't risk an accident, take the profile or a lesser ship of the same design and practice with that. I have 2 biplanes that fly the same, the Waco now stays on the wall at home, only to be flown at a major contest. The Stearman is my practice ship and that is the one I practice with. Second, I want to make sure the design works before I invest 2 or more years in a full body airplane. As I found out at the FAI worlds this past summer, your airplane had better "static" good or your total score will suffer greatly. This is where the proflie comes in, less time in the construction.

 Allen,

 I see now, that all makes sense. y1
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Re: New Project; F2A Brewster Buffalo
« Reply #7 on: December 26, 2010, 02:22:18 AM »
I'd go for the colors of one that downed a couple of dozen enemy aircraft... but I am biased :)

A while ago I saw that a new Brewster R/C model was getting started on RCUniverse: http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_10014194/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm

http://www.sci.fi/~ambush/faf/fafincolor.html
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Re: New Project; F2A Brewster Buffalo
« Reply #8 on: December 26, 2010, 01:50:59 PM »
I gathered that BW-372 was restored into a "stabilized wreck" and I don't think there are plans (any immediate plans anyway) to go further than that.

http://www.airforcemuseum.fi/brewster_arrived_finland


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http://www.airforcemuseum.fi/flash.asp?file=5  (turn the view)
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Re: New Project; F2A Brewster Buffalo
« Reply #9 on: December 28, 2010, 12:11:45 PM »






This one is 37" span, but could easily be enlarged!

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Re: New Project; F2A Brewster Buffalo
« Reply #10 on: December 28, 2010, 03:37:47 PM »
Most EXCELLENT subject Allen!  Looks like it has pretty good proportions, the landing gear arrangement is very unusual and should lead to lots of static point opportunities when you do the full-build.

I too enjoyed the Wikipedia article.  It sounds like it really was not that bad a bird but simply could not handle the "growth" that always happens to warbirds in service.  Of note was Pappy Boyington's positive comments.

Not the same old scale subject thats for sure!   H^^
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Re: New Project; F2A Brewster Buffalo
« Reply #11 on: December 28, 2010, 04:48:45 PM »
Also published in 1960 MAN Jul p12 * span 35.00 * area 215.00 * engine .35-.60 * plan #72 * designed by Clements, Vern

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Re: New Project; F2A Brewster Buffalo
« Reply #12 on: December 29, 2010, 08:40:35 AM »
Exciting pick Alan!
There is a LOT of data online to get you started.  Below is a comprehensive bibliography of past Buffalo books and articles that I found online.  I highlighted a few in RED that jumped out at me as being those I would want to read.  Especially important would be Paul Matt's 3-view - his work is normally very good and accurate.  I would measure all other 3-views you find against his, for starters.
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Brewster Buffalo Biliography

J D Balfe, War Without Glory, MacMillan (Australia) 1984. RAAF ops 1941-42, including Buffaloes over Malaya. [jmac]
John Bennett, Defeat Into Victory, Royal Australian AF Museum 1994. History of RAFF 453 Sq. First half covers 453's ops with the Buffalo over Malaya.
 
Angelucci & Bowers, The American Fighter, pp.90-92, photos, short summary, 3-view drawings, specifications table.

P. C. Boer, De Luchstrijd Rond Borneo, Van Holema & Warendorf 1987, and De Luchstrijd om Indie, same publisher 1990. Dutch with superficial English summary. These two tomes probably represent the work on the Dutch air operations in Netherlands East Indies and particularly Model 339 actions. ISBN 90-269-4253-2 and 90-269-4160-9 respectively.
 
Eric Brown, Duels in the Sky, Airlife 1988, ISBN 1-85310-046-39. Writes briefly of the Buffalo, in terms much like his earlier book below.
 
---- Wings of the Weird and Wonderful, Airlife Publishing 1983?, Tab Books 1987. Contains a short chapter on the Brewster 339.

Byk, Gary: Buffalo Down Under: The Modeller's Guide to Australia's Inherited Fighter Red Roo Models Publication, 1998, no ISBN, available through Red Roo Models, PO Box 113, Glen Waverly, Victoria Australia 3150 (EMail redroo@entityconnect.com.au), 124 pages, many b&w photos and tech drawings, $Au30.00. Text in Australian. Text covers RAAF use of the Buffalo in Malaya and in Australia, as well as background on Brewster, the Miranda Brothers, and short histories of other variants. Particular noteworthy is information on Australian modification (with tech drawings) of ex-NEI 339-23's for photo recon work, correlation of US 5th Air Force and RAAF serials, and details of equipment (mainly referenced to British B-339E's). Gary also offers theories regarding the use of US Neutrality Gray as an undersurface color on the British order Buffaloes. This book should be part of the Buffalo fan's collection, but print run is limited to 500 copies.
 
Martin Caidin, "Jungle Rats," in The Rugged, Ragged Warriors, Elsevier-Dutton 1966, Bantam 1979. A problematical account of Australian Buffalo pilots in Malaya, entertaining but highly suspect.
 
---- chapter four, Everything But the Flak, Meredith Press 1964, Popular Library (paperback) 1964. Subject is B-17s, but pp 41-50 describe the career of Greg Board, a Buffalo pilot in 453 Squadron in Malaya.
 
Gerard Casius and Luuk Boerman, Brewster B-339C/D/-23: History, Camouflage and Markings, Dutch Profile Publications, 2008. Magazine-sized book with many photos of the Brewsters in Netherlands East Indies service, with bilingual captions and the main text repeated in English in the latter half of the book; profiles and some three-views in color.
 
Gerard Casius and Thijs Postma, 40 Jaar Luchvaart in Indie, Uitgeverij De Alk BV 1986. Dutch. Coverage of ML-KNIL in Netherlands East Indies, including Brewster Model 339 squadrons. ISBN 90-6013-944-5.
 
Graham Clayton. Last Stand in Singapore: The Story of 488 Squadron RNZAF, Auckland: Random House New Zealand, 2008. Thoroughgoing history of a Kiwi Buffalo squadron (later refitted with Hurricanes).
 
Robert Cressman and others, "A Glorious Page In Our History" - the Battle of Midway, Pictorial Histories 1990. Includes VMF-221 battle with some detail additional to Prange's coverage. ISBN 0-929521-40-4.
 
Brian Cull and others, Buffaloes Over Singapore: RAF, RAAF, RNZAF and Dutch Brewster Fighters In Action Over Malaya and the East Indies 1941-42, Grub Street 2003. Meticulous detail, some of which has previously appeared in Christopher Shores's Bloody Shambles.
 
Francis Dean, America's Hundred Thousand: The US Production Fighter Aircraft of World War II, Schiffer 1997. This splendid book devotes 33 pages to the Buffalo, which just squeaked under Dean's definition of American WWII fighters. Drawings, many photos, a Buffalo chronology, performance graphs, pilot comments, structural details--much good stuff. ISBN 0-7643-0072-5
 
Donahue, Last Flight From Singapore. Donahue was an American pilot in the RAF. "Last Flight" covered his ordeals as a Hurricane pilot during the Japanese invasion of Malaya and Singapore.
 
The latest (last?) Jeff Ethell book, Pacific War Eagles, includes a forward by Marion Carl who flew a Grumman F4F at Midway. To quote in part: "The Brewster gained a terrible reputation based on that one event [Midway] but it's probably undeserved. Personally I liked the F2A because it was lighter and somewhat faster than the F4F. Its main fault was poor carrier landing suitability, which was largely irrelevant to Marines".

Daniel Ford. The Sorry Saga of the Brewster Buffalo. Durham NH: Warbird Books, 2010. A digital short history of the roly-poly Brewster fighter, available for Amazon's Kindle e-book reader, and including much of the information on this webiste. Updated and expanded from the original Air & Space magazine article.


Neil Frances. Ketchil: A New Zealand Pilot's War in Asia and the Pacific. Masterton: Wairarapa Archive, 2005. Extensive quotes from Vic Bargh, a Buffalo pilot in 67 Squadron at Rangoon. Available from the Nile bookstore in New Zealand.
 
O'Dowd Gallagher, Action in the East, Doubleday 1942. Gallagher was a South African news reporter who worked in Singapore and Burma during the Japanese invasion. First-person account of 67 Squadron in Rangoon. [mh, df]
Green & Swanborough, Flying Colors, 1990; pp.118-119, Color Side Views of Buffaloes (same as Air Enthusiast #1 Article)
 
J.H.N. Greuter, M. Schep, L. Boerman, J. Bossong, CAMOUFLAGE EN KENTEKENS, 1997 B. V. Bonneville (Dorpsstraat 13, 1861 KT Bergen nh, Netherlands) ISBN 90 73304 57 1. 280 pages, A4 format. Comprehensive coverage of all Netherlands aircraft camouflage and markings from 1914 to present. Text is in Dutch only (the brief English section is little more than an index). Even so, this is a seminal work on the subject. The ML-KNIL [Dutch East Indies air force] section opens up major revisions on the topic of markings for ML-KNIL aircraft, particularly the Buffalo. Yellow fuselage stripe with blue spinners for the third patrouille of 2-Vl.G.V, for example (white stripe with red spiiner for the first patrouille which seems to be the one we have photos of: B-3110, for example. We've known the uppersurface colors to be OD 41 and Medium Green 42, but now know the Dutch color names: oldleaf and youngleaf. More info as I tease it out (and find someone to do some translating...)
 
Hall, E. R. (Bon), Glory In Chaos: The RAAF in the Far East in 1941-42, published by the Sembawang Association, 75 Donne Street, West Coburg, Victoria, Australia, 1989
 
Hugo Hooftman, Van Glenn Martins en Mustangs, Alle vliegtuigen die hebben gevlogen bij het KNIL, de Indische militaire luchtvaart (About Glenn Martins and Mustangs, all airplanes which have flown at the KNIL, the Indies military air flight). Published in the 1960s, about 60 pp.
 
Jones, U. S Naval Fighters, pp. 149-154, Photos, 3 View drawing, short summary
 
Ilmari Juutilainen, Double Fighter Knight , Apali Oy 1996. Translation by Lt. Gen. Heikki Nikunen FAF and Rear-Admiral Paul T. Gillcrist USN. Memoirs of the top Finnish ace "Illu" Juutilainen. Good insight into air combat over Finland, 1939-1945, from pilot's pastime to air combat tactics. Maps of main battle areas, pictures, summaries of main aircraft types and FAF and Soviet war-time force levels. (Go to the link for excerpts.) ISBN 952-5026-04-03.
 
Joppe Karhunen, Taistelulent{jien jatkosota, Tammi publishing, n.d. Very good book about Finnish Air Force in Continuation War, includes several personal accounts. Karhunen got 26+ kills with Brewster, thus being the 3rd best Brewster pilot. ISBN 951-31-0132-0

Kalevi Keskinen et al, Brewster B-239 ja Humu, Vol. 1 in the Tietoteos 'Suomen Ilmavoimien Historia series 1970, Apali Publishing 1995. Best available source about Finnish Buffaloes. Includes photo texts in English, a comprehensive English summary, and each plane's history. ISBN 951-9035-16-8 or 952-5026-02-07. [jm/my/jr]
Marja Lampi and Vladimir Prytkov, Kadonneen Brewsterin metasästys (Helsinki: ja Minerva Kustannus Oy, 2007). A Finnish account of the recovery of BW-372, now under restoration in Finland, with many black-white photographs and reproduced documents, some in English.
 
John Lundstrom, The First Team: Pacific Naval Air Combat from Pearl Harbor to Midway, Naval Institute Press 1984, revised 1990. Mentions Buffs in service with navy and marine squadrons, 1941-42. ISBN 0-87021-189-7.

Eino Luukkanen, Fighter Over Finland: The Memoirs of a Fighter Pilot, London: Macdonald 1963. Good book about the Winter War and the Continuation War, with a first-person account of obtaining Brewster 239s from Sweden and flying them in combat against the Russian air force. Facsimile reprint in Time-Life flight series.
 
Jim Maas, F2A Buffalo, Squadron-Signal #81, 1987. Jim literally wrote the book on the Brewster fighter. Good pictures, including color views.
 
Munson, Fighters & Bombers of WW II, p.27, Color 3 View of Finnish B239; p.103, Short summary drawing [bc]
Walter Musciano, Warbirds of the Sea: A History of Aircraft Carriers and Carrier-based Aircraft, Schiffer 1994. Several references to the Brewster Buffalo. LC 93-87478, ISBN 0-88740-583-5) Musciano was a designer at Brewster under Dayton Brown. The book "describes in chronological order the development of aircraft carriers.... It has a lot of pictures and drawings. Drawings are 3-views, some aircraft are depicted in a side sectional drawing. Carriers are depicted with a side view and a deck plan. Walt has done all the drawings. Photoreproduction is excellent. The author has devoted a lot of space to combat descriptions."
 
Michael O'Leary, "United States Navy Fighters of World War II In Action" (Blandford Press 1980 and 1984. ISBN 0 7137 0956 1 and 0 7137 1473 5). The chapter on the Buffalo covers 11 pages and is entitled "Buffalo - The Unmitigated Disaster" so I don't think I need expand on the author's viewpoint! Some interesting photographs including one of a formation of Bermudas breaking to port. Also a rather inaccurate cutaway and there are some major factual errors and a significant glossing over of details (ie 243 Sqn RAF "had virtually all its aircraft destroyed on the ground, as they sat parked in neat rows, in late January when the Japanese bombed Kallang. However, it's not all bad there is a useful section on the allocation of F2A-2s to VF-2 and the "war diary" of that unit.
 
Waldemar Pajdosz, F2A Buffalo, Monografie Lotnicze #10, Agencja A.J. Press 1993. Polish. Good 1/72nd scale drawings of variants, color artwork and reproduction of factory F2A-2 inboard profile drawings. ISSN 0867-7867.

Gordon Prange, Miracle at Midway, McGraw-Hill 1982. Marine Buffaloes at Midway. See J. Bryan below.
 
Jukka Raunio, Lentajan Nakokulma II (Pilot's Viewpoint Vol. II), Forssan Kirjapaino Oy 1993. Finnish; English summary by Pentti Manninen; be sure to ask for it. Coverage of the tchnical/flight aspects of the major imported fighters of the Finish Air Force 1935-45, including the Model 239; scale drawings by Manninen. (Very good about technical side of the Finnish WW II fighters. ISBN 951-96866-0-6.
 
Christopher Shores & others, Finnish Air Force, Arco (Arco-Aircam #14) 1969. Many pictures, including color views.
 
-----Air War for Yugoslavia, Greece and Crete, 1940-41 , Grub Sreet 1987. Scattered mention of 805 Squadron Buffs at Crete; photos.
 
-----, Bloody Shambles 2 vols, Grub Street* 1992, 1993. Good accounts of RAF and Dutch Buffalo squadrons in Southeast Asia, with many excerpts from combat reports. Photos. ISBN 0-948817-50-X, 0-948817-67-4.
 
-----, Aces High, Grub Street* 1994. Brief sketches of British Commonwealth fighter squadrons and aces. Fighters are not indexed so you must know what you're looking for. ISBN 1-898697-00-0.
 
Stenman, Kari. Lentolaivue 24. Osprey Elite Aviation Units series, 2001. Story of the fighter squadron that flew the Brewster against the Red Air Force
 
Swanborough & Bowers, United States Navy Aircraft Since 1911, pp.b71-72, photo, short summary and 3-view drawing
 
Thetford, Aircraft of the Royal Air Force Since 1918, pp.108-109, photo, short summary and 3-view drawing
 
J Helsdon Thomas, Wings Over Burma, Merlin Books 1994. Squadron life by a fitter for RAF 67 Sq in Burma. [jmac]
Mikko Uola, Lentajan albumi series (?).
 
U. S. Navy Carrier Fighters of WW II, Aerodata / Squadron Signal Publications #6204; pp.1-20, Comprehensive article, photos, color profiles, 5-view drawings with cross sections and details.
 

Robert Winston, Aces High, Holiday House 1941. Gee-whiz story by ex-navy pilot who went to Sweden and France as a check pilot for Brewster 239s and 339. Translated into Finnish as Lento Suomeen, published by Tietoteos.
 
Aeroplane magazine. "Buffalo Back From Extinction" (photos of BW-372 recovery), March 1999
 
William B. Allmon, "Midway Island's Undaunted Defenders," in World War II, Vol 11 No 1, May 1996. A fair amount devoted to the Buffalo, and a nice photo of what looks to be an echelon-right formation peeling off into a dive.
 
Aviation News, vol 8 no 2, 22 June 1979. 1/72nd scale plans.
 
*Avions #4-5, June-July 1993 has a two-part article on Dutch East Indies Army AF organization and markings, 1941-42. #4 also has an article on building and detailing the Matchbox 1/72 Buff.
 
Tech Sgt William Bennett, "Brewster B-239 Taivaan Helmi (Sky Pearl) in Finnish Air Force Service," with drawings by K. Rosenlof. Fine detail drawings from a modeler's newsleter, IPMS-USA Quarterly, Vol.7 No.4, Winter 1972.
 
"Brewster's Benighted Buffalo," in Air Enthusiast Quarterly #1, 1974, pp. 66-83. Generally good coverage but with some aspects which later research has impeached. Cutaway drawing is inaccurate.
 
Sir Robert Brooke-Popham, "Operations in the Far East," in Supplement to the London Gazette, 20 Jan 1948. Includes formation and disposition of Buffalo squadrons in Malaya and Burma, 1941, with Pop-off's view of the fighter.
 
William Brooks, 2nd Lt USMC, "After Action Report, 4 June 1942," in The Yellow Sheet, Spring 1946. A Buffalo pilot's combat report from Midway, which moved the editor to note that it "appears to give more credit to the Buffalo than most others."

J. Bryan, "Never a Battle Like Midway," in Saturday Evening Post 26 Mar 1949. This is a major source of the bad rep the Buffalo got in USMC service. Prange used a lot from Bryan's account.
 
FlyPast magazine. Reports on BW-372, February 1999, March 1999.
 
Daniel Ford, "The Sorry Saga of the Brewster Buffalo" in Air & Space / Smithsonian, June-July 1996. Written with help from Jim Maas, Panu Kolju, Ben Schapiro, and others.
 
Gemeinhardt, Lucabaugh, & Martin in Aeroplane Monthly, Nov & Dec 1989 and Jan 1990. Three-part article on the development, RAF use, and US use of the Brewster 340/SB2A Bermuda.
 
Jon Guttman, "Interview: Finland's Ace of Aces," in Military History, February 1999. 7 page article about Ilmari Juutilainen.
 
Ilmailu magazine. "Pekurin Brewster nousi jarvesta Karjalassa" (short piece about the finding of BW-372 with photo from 1941), October 1998. "Brewsterin paluu" (color photos of recovery), November 1998. "Brewster myytiin" (more photos; cover photo of BW-372 at Segehza airfield), February 1999. [diacriticals missing in titles--sorry!]

IPMS-USA Quarterly Journal, vol 10 no 4, Summer 1975. Plans, detail photos.
 
Bjorn Karlstrom, Air Progress, November 1966, p.48, Finnish B-239, 4 View Drawing with cross sections, propellor and landing gear details.
 
Malcolm Lecompte, "Naval Air Supremacy and the Development of the Brewster Buffalo," Journal AAHS, for November 1996.

Jim Maas, "The Brewster Buffalo," in Modelworld Vol. 2 No 2 (Oct 1973, pp. 68-75) and Vol. 2 No 4 (Dec 1973, pp. 179-184), Almark Publishing Co Ltd. Coverage of variants; the Squadron/Signal book and Pajdosz' drawings reflect subsequent refinements.

-----, "Fall From Grace: the Brewster Aeronautical Corp," in Journal AAHS, Summer 1985. Great account of the builder. Not one of your better basic Harvard Business School companies.

Paul Matt, "Brewster F2A Buffalo," in Historical Aviation Album Vol. 5, 1967. 1/48 scale plan of F2A-3; seminal although now dated.


Anson McCullough, "Exploding the Zero Myth," in Airpower, vol. 26 no. 3, May 1996, pp 8 - 41. Primarily about the Zero but each of the early adversaries is discussed. Several photos of RAF and Dutch Buffalos including a color shot of a NEI B-339D on a test flight over the Atlantic. Center spread is a Gerald Asher painting of a VMF-221 F2A-3 in a head on with a A6M2.

Anson McCullough, "Requiem for a Pint Sized Pioneer," in Air Classics,Vol.3, No. 6, July 1967, pp 16-23+. 18 pics, badly reproduced, mostly the common stuff, + 3 colour side-views. Text emphasizes "sweet flying characteristics were refined out of it." This sympathetic treatment was apparently inspired by H.S. Packard (Interview: "Carrier Pilot", in A/C Vol.3 No.1) who flew F2A3 with VF-2 in 1941/42 and liked it. That "much maligned honey .... could outmaneuver any Wildcat ever built". "Of the 54 various aircraft flown over the years, the Brewster holds a fond spot in my memory". His main complaint is that the undercarriage "tore off more often than could be lived with" (he is talking of the -A3).
 
Jarmo Mikkonen, "Brewster 339E Buffalo: The Luckless Defender of Singapore," in AAHS Journal, vol 43 no 2, Summer 1998. A long, detailed, and mostly excellent account of the Buffalo in British service in Southeast Asia; interviews with New Zealand veterans. Some new pictures, too.
 
Joe Mizrahi, "Farewell to the Fleet's Forgotten Fighter: Brewster F2A," in Air Power March 1972. A more sympathetic account than most. Good pix.
 
Lucien Moreau in *Avions #66, September 1998, article and photos of the Belgian Buffs and other a/c dumped from the French aircraft carrier Bearn after June 1940.
 
Walter Musciano, "Brewster Buffalo: Finland's Unlikely Acemaker," in Aviation History, November 1996. A good account of the B-239 in Finnish service, with some speculations on why it did better there than elsewhere.
 
James Sanders, "The Brewsters of Fighting Two," in Journal AAHS Vol. 14, No. 3, Fall 1969. Good description of VF-2 activities immediately before and after outbreak of the war in the Pacific.

Christopher Shores, "Brewster Buffalo," Aircraft Profile #217, Profile Publications. Some of this is outdated by Maas's and indeed Shores's own later publications, so don't rely on it totally.

 
Skyways #55, July 2000. David Ostrowski, the journal editor, contributes a ten page summary of Anacostia flight tests of the XF2A-1, F2A-1 and XF2A-2 models; he also throws in another seven pages of detail factory photos of the XF2A-1 and -2, many new to this reviewer. More new photos come in Roy Meyers' six pages on F2A cockpits (-1, -2 and -3 variants), including the elusive rear deck. Skyways issues are available from WW1 Aero, 15 Crescent Road, Poughkeepsie NY 12601.
 
Kari. Stenman, "38 to 1: The Brewster 239 in Finnish Service," in Air Enthusiast, Vol 46, 1992. [df]
Dennis Teague in Airfix, January 1987. Improving Revell's 1/72 Buff, with 6 side-views including one of an 805 Sq RN aircraft in Egypt, 1941.

Barrett Tillman, "Brewster's Embattled Buffalo," in Flight vol. 1, no. 1 Summer 1996, pp 56 - 61. Covers the operational history of the Buffalo quickly with a recounting of VMF-221's engagement at Midway. Tillman expresses the BBA's own position that the Buff could have done better. Finnish sidebar and some color.

War Planes of All Nations, Winter, 1944; pp.12-13, 3 View & Short summary.


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Re: New Project; F2A Brewster Buffalo
« Reply #13 on: December 29, 2010, 08:43:57 AM »
Check out this site: http://www.warbirdforum.com/buff.htm  Lot of good web links on that page.

Don't miss this page with a link to a pdf of all U.S. Navy Bureau numbers for their Buffalos: http://www.warbirdforum.com/buffno.htm  It includes notes on date of manufacture, squadrons assignments, final disposition, etc.


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Re: New Project; F2A Brewster Buffalo
« Reply #14 on: December 29, 2010, 08:46:06 AM »
Bob Holman has plans for 1/4th, 1/5th, and 1/6th scale Buffalos.  http://www.bhplans.com/JBPlansPg1.html

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Re: New Project; F2A Brewster Buffalo
« Reply #15 on: December 29, 2010, 12:12:30 PM »
"I would say that whereas the Brewster was a gentleman's airplane, the Messerschmitt was a killing machine."

said a man who downed 94 enemy aircraft, flying Fokker D.XXIs, Brewster B-239s and Messerschmitt Me-109Gs
http://www.saunalahti.fi/fta/finace01.htm

...and :"The I-16 was in the same category as the B-239. The Lavochkin-Gorbunov-Gudkov LaGG-3 was faster but not very agile. The Lavochkin La-5 and Yakolev Yak-9 were clearly better than the Brewster. The Hurricane was a rather easy opponent to deal with, especially at low level. No problems with the Tomahawk, either. The Spitfire, of course, was superior to the Brewster."
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Re: New Project; F2A Brewster Buffalo
« Reply #16 on: December 30, 2010, 10:03:27 AM »
Mike G., Thanks for the PM, it really details this airplane well. I am in the process of changing it from 1:48 to 1/6 th scale. Can't wait till its time to cut that first piece of balsa.

Mike you are and have been a scale judge so I have a question for you as a judge, (FAI) if this airplane did not have working retract landing gear would you score it down? Just in case FAI C/L ever comes back to international competition.

Thanks everyone for all the information and help on this project. I now know more about this aircraft then I know about my wife. LL~ LL~ LL~ Thanks again.

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Re: New Project; F2A Brewster Buffalo
« Reply #17 on: December 30, 2010, 11:03:52 AM »
Hi Brother Allen,

I remember very well, the DH Comet Profile dale Campbell built as a "test bed" for his Scale entry.  I never did a profile 1/4 scale Spacewalker from him, though!   His full fuselage one was out standing, though, and the trailer he had to use to haul it around on! LL~

Good luck with your Buffalo!  I like the design. ;D

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Re: New Project; F2A Brewster Buffalo
« Reply #18 on: December 30, 2010, 01:27:40 PM »
Allen,
In FAI scale there is a 25% downgrade of your flight score if you do not have retracts when the prototype did. Pretty much destroys any chance you might have. Several years ago at the Nats there was a standard deduct of 2 points off the realism score in Sport Scale for no retracts. My Typhoon doesn't have retracts and does not seem to suffer much penalty in Sport Scale.
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Re: New Project; F2A Brewster Buffalo
« Reply #19 on: December 30, 2010, 02:34:21 PM »
Allen,

As Chuck said, a deduction in flight score is called for in the FAI rules, and it is also common in AMA events.  It's about "Realism In Flight".  Isn't it more realistic for a P-51 to fly around with it's gear up than down? 

The retract gear on the Brewster is no doubt a big challenge, with the long angled legs and the primitive way it went up into the fuselage.  From what I've read, it was a problem for the real airplane too, with reports of landing gear problems on carrier landings.

It's probably one big reason why you've never seen a Buffalo in FAI scale before.  Not to "rain on your parade".  It's still an awesome subject aircraft.

Mike   

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Re: New Project; F2A Brewster Buffalo
« Reply #20 on: December 31, 2010, 10:03:50 AM »
 :! Duhhhhhhhhhhhh. you think I would know this. My problem....when new information enters my brain, somethings are pushed out. Old age maybe?

Happy New Year all
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Re: New Project; F2A Brewster Buffalo
« Reply #21 on: December 31, 2010, 11:54:14 AM »
That will be a heck of a retract system, not sure anything of the shelf would do it.  On the other hand if you can pull it off it should get you lots of static (for the mechanism) and lots of COOL points plus the envy of your peers!

Probably lots of headaches too.   HB~>  HB~>  HB~>
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Re: New Project; F2A Brewster Buffalo
« Reply #22 on: December 31, 2010, 12:06:30 PM »
That will be a heck of a retract system, not sure anything of the shelf would do it.  On the other hand if you can pull it off it should get you lots of static (for the mechanism) and lots of COOL points plus the envy of your peers!

Probably lots of headaches too.   HB~>  HB~>  HB~>
Does anyone know if the strut from the fuselage retracted straight, like a jack screw, or was hinged, like a scissors strut or something?

The part that mounts on the wing looks simple enough -- it's just a rigid member with a simple hinge at the wing, as far as I can tell.  But the part coming from the fuselage is a bit unknown.  If it's hinged, then you'd just need an idler arm connected to a servo, hinged to the rest of the strut -- there's probably lots of ideas to be garnered from the two-part F4F construction article that appeared in Flying Models a year or so ago, of which one whole month's worth of the article was on constructing the retracting gear.
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Re: New Project; F2A Brewster Buffalo
« Reply #23 on: December 31, 2010, 02:02:14 PM »
I think non-members can see this too: a drawing of the landing gear, posted by a R/C scale builder who seems to know what he is doing.

picture:
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=69886

forum thread:
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=88360
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Re: New Project; F2A Brewster Buffalo
« Reply #24 on: December 31, 2010, 03:12:02 PM »
Now that's a keeper.  That looks easier than the F4F retracts -- which, by the way, are in the July 09 issue of Flying Models.  That guy did the whole mechanism with brass tubing, music wire and nylon horns.
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Re: New Project; F2A Brewster Buffalo
« Reply #25 on: December 31, 2010, 03:46:32 PM »
This would probably be easier to do:

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=61421

(from the same thread on rcgroups)

... except, where is everything going if it is a profile model?
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Re: New Project; F2A Brewster Buffalo
« Reply #26 on: December 31, 2010, 04:42:33 PM »
One on each side?  Where do you get jackscrews in the right size for a five foot span model?

I hit "send", then I thought -- Ah Ha!  You make a model that's a profile in _back_ but full fuselage in _front_.  I'm not sure how this plays with da rules, but you'd preserve a lot of the simplicity of profile modeling, and still have room for retracts.

And then I thought: you put the servos in the wings:
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Re: New Project; F2A Brewster Buffalo
« Reply #27 on: January 03, 2011, 11:36:49 AM »
Elsewhere, I found a link to some war footage that includes a few good glimpses at Brewsters.
(the rest is Fokker D.XXI, Blenheim, ground troops, ...)

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Re: New Project; F2A Brewster Buffalo
« Reply #28 on: January 04, 2011, 03:05:28 AM »
Mike, Thanks for leading me to Bob Holman. Jerry Bates offers the F2A in many scale sizes.

BREWSTER F2A BUFFALO
1/4 SCALE 115” WING SPAN PLAN $50.00
1/5TH SCALE PLAN $40.00
1/6.6TH SCALE PLAN $30.00
1/10TH SCALE PLAN $21.50

I have many scale drawings and three views now and have ordered the 1/6.6 planes from him. I will see how accurate they are. Ordering my wood today from "National Balsa", and hopefully be ready to start next week on the profile.  #^ #^

Blessings
Allen


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