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Re: Lavochkin La-5 - Brodak kit.
« Reply #100 on: July 01, 2011, 08:05:08 PM »
Well every body is at the Nats and I am home getting ready for the FMA.  Finally got the side lettering on the beast.  Now for the part I hate the most - install the canopy.  Earlier in this post is a picture of the airplane I am copying

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Re: Lavochkin La-5 - Brodak kit.
« Reply #101 on: July 01, 2011, 09:01:54 PM »
Starting to look too good to fly . S?P ;D

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Re: Lavochkin La-5 - Brodak kit.
« Reply #102 on: July 05, 2011, 12:45:48 PM »
Well it's almost finished.  The dreaded canopy is finished.  As it turns out a profile canopy is easier than a full body canopy.  It is pretty simple to glue it to a flat side.    #^

PS that's a real WW II USSR pilot.  Scanned out of a book - Souiet Air Force Fighter Colours 1941-1945
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Re: Lavochkin La-5 - Brodak kit.
« Reply #103 on: July 06, 2011, 08:19:06 AM »
I like it. H^^
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Re: Lavochkin La-5 - Brodak kit.
« Reply #104 on: July 06, 2011, 10:53:06 AM »
Pavel Likholetov (LA-5 pilot I scanned for my cockpit) can now talk to tower.  He has an antenna for his radio.
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PS. What makes good antenna wire for a model?
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Re: Lavochkin La-5 - Brodak kit.
« Reply #105 on: July 06, 2011, 12:10:08 PM »
Try some nylon fishing line.  It's somewhat stretchy and can survive the inevitable handling mishaps.  Another trick is that it will shrink some if heated.

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Re: Lavochkin La-5 - Brodak kit.
« Reply #106 on: July 06, 2011, 04:41:39 PM »
John,

I have some 50# nylon fishing line however it is clear.   It probbly should be black?  Any thoughts?

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Re: Lavochkin La-5 - Brodak kit.
« Reply #107 on: July 06, 2011, 07:14:02 PM »
Wipe the line with 400 grit sand paper a couple of times and then use a Sharpie on it.  Paint will stay for awhile, but gradually rubs off.  Antennas are usually bare wire and oxidize to black fairly quickly.

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Re: Lavochkin La-5 - Brodak kit.
« Reply #108 on: July 06, 2011, 09:59:19 PM »
Wipe the line with 400 grit sand paper a couple of times and then use a Sharpie on it.  Paint will stay for awhile, but gradually rubs off.  Antennas are usually bare wire and oxidize to black fairly quickly.

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Have Sharpie will give it a try! Thanks!
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Re: Lavochkin La-5 - Brodak kit.
« Reply #109 on: July 07, 2011, 09:24:06 AM »
Wipe the line with 400 grit sand paper a couple of times and then use a Sharpie on it.  Paint will stay for awhile, but gradually rubs off.  Antennas are usually bare wire and oxidize to black fairly quickly.

Just my thoughts...

John

John,
You are the antenna expert.  As I said I had the 50 # test line. Was bought years ago to fix a wind chime.  did the 400 grit sanding as you recommended.  However I was having trouble getting the Sharpie to cover 360.  SO I drilled a 1/16" hole through the Sharpie tip and fed the line through the hole.  Multiple passes back and forth through the hole and I had black fishing line!  Knots didn't look right so I secured the ends by wrapping them with copper wire.  A little white paint and the wrap looks like a insulator (at 15').  Photo attached is at 6" to show detail - however at 15' looks spot-on!  Thanks John!  This BB is the best!

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Re: Lavochkin La-5 - Brodak kit.
« Reply #110 on: July 07, 2011, 03:41:33 PM »
Looks good, John.  Solving problems like this is one of the things I like about scale modeling:  How to create the illusion!!

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Re: Lavochkin La-5 - Brodak kit.
« Reply #111 on: July 11, 2011, 02:20:07 PM »
Well it's almost ready for the first flight.  Built and installed the Pitot Tube today.  Also have mounted motor, speed controller, and battery.  Appears the CG will be spot on withought adding weight.  Things to do:  Install wheels,  Air brush some exhaust and mud streaks, Build a set of lines, and test fly (not necessarily in that order).

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Re: Lavochkin La-5 - Brodak kit.
« Reply #112 on: July 12, 2011, 03:44:44 PM »
Far enough along to get an accurate weight.  It came in under the 150 oz my last airplane weighed  LL~

This one ONLY weighs 69 oz.  Not light by stunt standers but all that looking good cost weight.  Besides all it has to do is fly smooth and level and be able to grease landings. 

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Re: Lavochkin La-5 - Brodak kit.
« Reply #113 on: July 15, 2011, 08:38:40 AM »
Well it looks like I will make the FCM at AMA August 26, 2011.  Flew the LA-5 this morning.  WOW! what a sweet flying airplane.  Also Electric power is wounderfull.  It was a short flight - about 20 laps.  Take off was:  Bring up the throttle slowly and she went airborne at 1/2 throttle.  Flew several laps and landed.  Did this 3 times.  Never did get past 1/2 throttle.  Started to rain so I packed and ran.
What I learned:
1)  The Brodak LA-5 flies great even at 4-1/2 lb. Build it as a sport model at around 3 lb and this would be a fun to stunt scale ship.
2)  Electric power is the only way to.  Absolutely no hassle to set up.  Bad motor runs will be a rare thing of the past.  Don't get me wrong, eclectics can smoke causing a DNF but I have had 3 DNF's with wet engines and they were working well.
3) Ship was a little up-down sensitive.  Need to reduce elevator throw and add a little noise weight.
4) Ship was clean when I landed - No SLIME!
5) I flew at 7 AM next to a bunch of houses - No NOISE - every body was happy.

Am going out of town for a couple of day. Will finish her up and post final pictures, setup, and lap times etc when I get back.

Ty I will give you a call when I return and yes I do want pictures!  - It's great have a good flying scale ship!!

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Re: Lavochkin La-5 - Brodak kit.
« Reply #114 on: July 15, 2011, 09:03:00 AM »
Thans for the great news, now go get em. H^^
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Re: Lavochkin La-5 - Brodak kit.
« Reply #115 on: July 15, 2011, 08:45:12 PM »
John
Glad to hear that it flies well, I agree electrics are the way to go. I flew my first contests this year with electrics and I love them.

one word of caution on the motor. Those Gold Turnigy's have a pretty soft prop adapter. it doesn't take much of a prop strike to bend them. I prefer the 5mm shaft motors like the  blue and red 3648. The prop mounts directly on the shaft.  http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=8486  , they are harder to mount but very strong. I use the 3648 on my profile carrier plane, I broke the prop on both flight , (carrier planes can hit hard). The softer type prop adapter would not have survived.

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Re: Lavochkin La-5 - Brodak kit.
« Reply #116 on: July 16, 2011, 10:15:13 AM »
John,
I'm really excited to know you plan on the FCM!  I can't wait to meet you there!  (Might even treat you to a hot dog.)
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Re: Lavochkin La-5 - Brodak kit.
« Reply #117 on: July 16, 2011, 02:08:54 PM »
John, great news regarding the first flight. I knew it would be a good flying plane for you, a a great airobatic sport flyer as well. I'm looking forward to more flight reports in the future. H^^
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Re: Lavochkin La-5 - Brodak kit.
« Reply #118 on: July 16, 2011, 04:20:25 PM »
Congrats on the nice first flight.  That's always a wonderful moment when you see daylight under the wheels.  Good luck at the FCM.  Wish I could be there to see it in person, but I can't afford to make that trip twice in a year.


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Re: Lavochkin La-5 - Brodak kit.
« Reply #119 on: July 19, 2011, 11:59:31 AM »
Sounds great, John!  If it is at all possible I would love to make it to FCM this year.  Who knows, if I get medical clearance I might can! ;D  I have not been to the Muncie site since 2004...........  :'(  Actually flying in a contest will be icing on the cake!

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Re: Lavochkin La-5 - Brodak kit.
« Reply #120 on: August 10, 2011, 11:53:57 AM »
I'm curious John, I need more flight reprts on your progress. y1
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Re: Lavochkin La-5 - Brodak kit.
« Reply #121 on: August 11, 2011, 10:30:06 AM »
I'm curious John, I need more flight reprts on your progress. y1

It is going well.  The biggest problem is the pilot (me).   I have flown very little the last 12 months and I am rusty.  My major problem is over correcting generating a ragged looking flight path. I put in a fairly long flight session yesterday and by the end of it things were looking much better.  The LA5 and it electric motor system seem to be working well.  I dumped all 3 battery packs yesterday and at the end of each flight the motor, battery and speed controller were just warm –prop and motor setup are happy. Line pull was good throughout the throttle range.  Take off was just about a 10 every time.  She rolls out smooth picks up the tail – more smooth roll and a gentle lift off.   Landings were another matter.  At first I was trying to do a little flare at touch down.  But this doesn’t work because she wants to fly – any up and the LA5 is airborne again.  What seem to work best with this aircraft is slightly elevated power and establish a smooth sink rate. Let aircraft touch down.  Apply a small amount of down elevator to keep airplane on ground.  Cut power let tail settle down - full up as LA5 rolls to a stop.  So far it looks like this is going to be fun flying ship.  I love the electric!
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Re: Lavochkin La-5 - Brodak kit.
« Reply #122 on: August 12, 2011, 09:35:43 AM »
Sounds like you are getting the hang of it.    Team race landing style helps on a lot of planes.  It is hard to teach or learn as everyone  including myself think up on touch down.   When gear is set right and just enough down to keep plane on the ground, the tail will drop as speed bleeds off.   Now don't go bruising the pavement with it. H^^
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Re: Lavochkin La-5 - Brodak kit.
« Reply #123 on: August 12, 2011, 09:51:19 AM »
Went flying this morning.  Put in some really impressive flights.  The LA5 is a really good flyer.  On each of the three battery packs I first flew the scale pattern that I plan to use.  With the remainder of the pack I practice the maneavers that I executed poorly.  Several more flights and I should be good to go.  The only concern I have now is windy conditions.  Right now north Alabama in under a stationary front.  No wind for the last several days.  All pratice has been hot no wind conditions.

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Re: Lavochkin La-5 - Brodak kit.
« Reply #124 on: August 13, 2011, 01:00:18 PM »
Good flight report. The plane is designed for main wheel landings, so they should be very realistic. I'd wager that minor aerobatics, and inverted flight should be possible. #^ #^ H^^
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« Reply #125 on: August 13, 2011, 04:26:29 PM »
Good flight report. The plane is designed for main wheel landings, so they should be very realistic. I'd wager that minor aerobatics, and inverted flight should be possible. #^ #^ H^^

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Re: Lavochkin La-5 - Brodak kit.
« Reply #126 on: August 13, 2011, 05:41:35 PM »
Clairfication: When bending wire for landing gear

Clamp wire in vice
Bend as needed
If wire will not bend get a bigger Hammer!

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Re: Lavochkin La-5 - Brodak kit.
« Reply #127 on: August 21, 2011, 06:37:01 PM »
Well it's all did and done!  #^  I have about 10 test flights and it flies great.  Did the paint touch up and took photos.  I should make the FCM at AMA Saturday the 27, 2011 ( barring a disaster or bad weather).  This has been a fun project!  Thanks for all the help and advice.  This BB is the best.   H^^
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Re: Lavochkin La-5 - Brodak kit.
« Reply #128 on: August 22, 2011, 08:23:41 AM »
Still looks great.   Now go have fun. H^^
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Re: Lavochkin La-5 - Brodak kit.
« Reply #129 on: August 28, 2011, 08:58:06 PM »
Well it do fly good!   #^  Photo by Grant Hiestand at the FCM @ AMA contest August 27, 2011
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Re: Lavochkin La-5 - Brodak kit.
« Reply #130 on: August 29, 2011, 05:06:30 AM »
Well THATS Good . We had been Wondering . Reecently even .Thanks for the update .

Looks very representitive of the 5 in the air too . H^^

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Re: Lavochkin La-5 - Brodak kit.
« Reply #131 on: August 29, 2011, 06:05:02 AM »
I had the privilege of judging John at the FCM on Saturday.  Wow, incredible, accurate, and extensive detail!! This is one super quality airplane obviously built by a very particular modeler.  Very nice, John, very nice.  His flights were really good, he didn't look out of practice to me.
We had only three fewer airplanes at the FCM than what the nats had!  Wonderful turnout, and all the fliers were good pilots.  We didn't get done until nearly 6:00!  I was whipped but happy.  Thanks for coming, John, and to all the rest as well.
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Re: Lavochkin La-5 - Brodak kit.
« Reply #132 on: August 29, 2011, 10:26:56 AM »
John:

Nice job, John. A very complete model, well done. Of particular interest to me was your entire posting and how it took off. The interest that it generated was phenomenal. All the way from "I just opened the kit" through to "a picture at FCM", the posting really generated interest. Most of us think of posting something usually once the model is complete or near completion. You took it all the way through. You should write for the magazines. Congratulations.

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Re: Lavochkin La-5 - Brodak kit.
« Reply #133 on: August 29, 2011, 11:00:01 AM »
What Jim just said.
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