Author Topic: Just some of the scale planes entered at Buder Park (Read 3321 times)

Fred Cronenwett · « **Reply #1 on:** September 23, 2013, 03:35:47 PM »

Charlie Bauer - DeHavilland Comet, AT-6
Fred Cronenwett - B-29 and RV-4
Grant Hiestand - Spacewalker
Ed Mason - DC-6
Frank Beatty - The Biplanes Arrow Active and Hawker Fury - He also brought his new model with one wing, Dehavilland DH-77
Bob Burns - p-40

Fred Cronenwett

Fred Cronenwett · « **Reply #2 on:** September 23, 2013, 03:44:53 PM »

Two more pictures

Fred Cronenwett · « **Reply #3 on:** September 23, 2013, 03:45:47 PM »

Some more

Fred Cronenwett · « **Reply #4 on:** September 23, 2013, 03:53:20 PM »

Frank Beatty's models, Brodak dope with lot's of surface detail, the airlane with one wing is his new DH-77

Fred

Jim Kraft · « **Reply #5 on:** September 23, 2013, 04:19:38 PM »

Great pictures guys. Some very neat scale models there.

Mike Keville · « **Reply #6 on:** September 23, 2013, 05:15:55 PM »

Frank Beatty's models are genuine 'eye candy'.

MarcusCordeiro · « **Reply #7 on:** September 23, 2013, 07:02:41 PM »

Amazing models!!!

Thanks Ty!!!

Marcus

wwwarbird · « **Reply #8 on:** September 23, 2013, 10:41:26 PM »

Quote from: Mike Keville on September 23, 2013, 05:15:55 PM

Frank Beatty's models are genuine 'eye candy'.

I'll agree with that, they are always incredible models.

Brian Massey · « **Reply #9 on:** September 25, 2013, 09:41:09 AM »

Now this is true modeling!

Brian

Mike Lauerman · « **Reply #10 on:** September 27, 2013, 03:09:57 PM »

Absolutely agree, Brian!

Avaiojet · « **Reply #11 on:** September 27, 2013, 04:52:05 PM »

This work is outstanding, Deservs a standing ovation!!

Makes you want to complete a model.

Be nice if the builders would Post some detailed information about their models.

Charles

Avaiojet · « **Reply #12 on:** September 27, 2013, 09:00:10 PM »

Quote from: Ty Marcucci on September 27, 2013, 06:21:10 PM

If I had the time and knew what model belonged to which modeler, I would have put the info with each photo. Unfortunately, I don't think all those modelers come on line here.

Ty,

Didn't really notice you were the OP.

Thanks for the splended photos and for taking the time to share them.

Really does make you want to get something completed.

Charles

Bill Johnson · « **Reply #13 on:** November 07, 2013, 12:48:51 PM »

Quote from: Ty Marcucci on September 23, 2013, 03:21:28 PM

More.

Dumb new guy question: What is the point of ailerons on a C/L aircraft? This one really has me stumped

Avaiojet · « **Reply #14 on:** November 07, 2013, 01:55:19 PM »

Quote from: Bill Johnson on November 07, 2013, 12:48:51 PM

Dumb new guy question: What is the point of ailerons on a C/L aircraft? This one really has me stumped

Bill,

You never saw those CL models that bank/roll?

Charles

Fred Cronenwett · « **Reply #15 on:** November 07, 2013, 03:21:05 PM »

The ailerons are not functional. On my RV-4 they are for looks only. You get more static points if the ailerons or rudder are separate from the wing or fin.

Look at the wing for the b-29, I only have a tape line showing where the edge of where the ailerons would be. The rudder looks better than if I had made one part.

It purely for static points, however on a rare occasion you will find cl scale models adjusting the ailerons on the ground to make the model rolls to the right in windy conditions

Fred Cronenwett

Fred Cronenwett · « **Reply #16 on:** November 07, 2013, 03:32:50 PM »

Here is the B-29 that I flew in Profile scale, 96" span, 13 lbs, four E25 electric motors

Fred

Trostle · « **Reply #17 on:** November 07, 2013, 03:50:43 PM »

Quote from: Bill Johnson on November 07, 2013, 12:48:51 PM

Dumb new guy question: What is the point of ailerons on a C/L aircraft? This one really has me stumped

First off, there is no such thing as a dumb question except for the one that is not asked.

Now, if you are referring to the photograph of the Navy SNJ that shows the ailerons deflected, there are several plausible answers.

The model shows the leadouts on the left for counter clockwise flight. The ailerons appear to be deflected for a right roll, or to provide a means to lift the left wing to help keep the lines tight.

So---

1. The ailerons on this model could be fixed in that position to help keep the lines tight

or

2. The ailerons on this model could be connected to the throttle so that as speed is reduced, more right aileron is applied. It is known that one CL builder set up his elevators, rudder and ailerons to be operated and connected to scale controls in the cockpit. For flight, the throttle linkage was connected to the rudder and aileron controls so that for lower speeds, more right rudder and more right aileron were applied. For higher speeds, the ailerons went to more neutral as did the rudder.

or

3. The ailerons might be controlled by a radio system like the now legal 2.4 gHz system that can be used on CL scale airplanes where the rules allow its use for functions other than the aerodynamic elevation control of the model. I think the way the rule is written is that the 2.4 gHz system could be used for aileron control.

From an interested bystander.

Keith

Will Hinton · « **Reply #18 on:** November 07, 2013, 06:24:34 PM »

While judging both the FCM for many years and at the nats as well, a couple of airplanes I've seen have used wing waggle as an option. They do it downwind, of course. I'm sitting here trying to remember whose they were, and I think Charlie Bauer might have been one of them. I'll not get the other until I get up tomorrow!
(If then!!!)

Avaiojet · « **Reply #19 on:** November 07, 2013, 06:29:22 PM »

Quote from: Will Hinton on November 07, 2013, 06:24:34 PM

While judging both the FCM for many years and at the nats as well, a couple of airplanes I've seen have used wing waggle as an option. They do it downwind, of course. I'm sitting here trying to remember whose they were, and I think Charlie Bauer might have been one of them. I'll not get the other until I get up tomorrow!
(If then!!!)

Could that have been Clancy Arnold?

Fred Cronenwett · « **Reply #20 on:** November 07, 2013, 07:58:05 PM »

Clancy has done the wing waggle with his Taube

Fred

Will Hinton · « **Reply #21 on:** November 08, 2013, 02:31:36 PM »

I'll still not sleep tonight, for I never got to judge Clancy's Taube - haven't even gotten to see it fly yet!!! So, the sad old mind is still trying to think of the second ship I saw do it.

chuck snyder · « **Reply #22 on:** November 08, 2013, 05:20:49 PM »

Charlie Bauer has done it with his Cub.

John Rist · « **Reply #23 on:** November 09, 2013, 08:37:48 AM »

I have aileron control on my Extra 300S. The plan (although I have never done it) was to pull in front of the judges and do a preflight for scale realism of flight points. Have never had the guts to do a wing waggle. But who knows I might give it a go. I have rudder control so I could crank in lots of rudder to keep the lines tight.

Avaiojet · « **Reply #24 on:** November 09, 2013, 09:38:28 AM »

Quote from: chuck snyder on November 08, 2013, 05:20:49 PM

Charlie Bauer has done it with his Cub.

This is true.

There was this guy/pilot that did air shows with his Cub.

Actually had the aircraft set up for one of the ailerons to fall off. I believe the port side.

While under power, he would also loose his hat on the runway. Later on, with a dead stick, he would glide in, land, then roll this Cub to a stop right at the hat. He would reach out from the cockpit and put his hat on before stepping out to take his bow!

Not a bad show.

Charles

Will Hinton · « **Reply #25 on:** November 09, 2013, 11:22:02 AM »

I remember that crazy dude, Charles! He actually got out of the ship in the air to flip the prop from behind for a few shows. (He was faking it, of course, cause it was still idling.) I've often wondered if he lived to retire?

55chevr · « **Reply #26 on:** November 09, 2013, 11:38:34 AM »

Stan Segalla. The Flying Farmer from the Old Rhinebeck Aerodrome air show.

Joe

Avaiojet · « **Reply #27 on:** November 09, 2013, 01:06:47 PM »

Quote from: 55chevr on November 09, 2013, 11:38:34 AM

Stan Segalla. The Flying Farmer from the Old Rhinebeck Aerodrome air show.

Joe

Joe,

Yes, that's the guy!

Been to Rhinebeck Aerodrome many times.

I don't miss the show but I do miss the countryside.

Charles

john e. holliday · « **Reply #28 on:** November 09, 2013, 05:47:45 PM »

According to internet he is retired and did his last show at 82 years of age.