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Offline john e. holliday

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« on: October 12, 2018, 11:20:39 AM »
I know I shouldn't think at times, but while doing my morning thing I got to wondering how people are flying Other peoples planes in competition that they didn't build or finish that the original owner had flown it in competition his/her self.    Was the original license changed or did the new owner just add his/her number. S?P
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Re: AMA Number
« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2018, 11:26:14 AM »
I just flew a plane I didn't build at the contest in Tucson. I left the last dudes number on it and wrote mine on with a sharpie.

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Re: AMA Number
« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2018, 11:39:24 AM »
At least you are honest about it. H^^
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Re: AMA Number
« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2018, 04:16:35 PM »
BOM and appearance points aren't used at all contests.

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« Reply #4 on: October 12, 2018, 04:23:23 PM »
I was a CD when I took off a few years.  When I came back they had lost my number and I had to revert to the number I joined under. Of course my CD number was on all of my planes.  So, if anybody out there has 1538 I have some planes you could use.

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Re: AMA Number
« Reply #5 on: October 12, 2018, 04:32:17 PM »
BOM and appearance points aren't used at all contests.

It was at this contest. I took a hit for it, but it's my own fault for not having a plane ready.

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« Reply #6 on: October 12, 2018, 04:45:38 PM »
It was at this contest. I took a hit for it, but it's my own fault for not having a plane ready.

That is another option.

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Re: AMA Number
« Reply #7 on: October 12, 2018, 04:45:54 PM »
Around here the rule isn't much enforced.  I'd have to check, but I think that technically you need it even if you're flying someone else's plane.  But, no one has told me to deface Paul Walker's 1988 Atlantis by scribbling my AMA number on the wing.

BTW: the rules don't say how visible your AMA number needs to be.  Some local joker started putting his on the wing in the same color of Monocoat as the plane.  Then some OTHER joker just ghosted his on over the fetching weathering on his P-47 wing.  I'm not sure how far this is going to be pushed...
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Re: AMA Number
« Reply #8 on: October 16, 2018, 07:04:42 PM »
The CLPA rules 2.4 state:"All models shall be identified by the CONTESTANT'S AMA license number permanently affixed to the upper side of the right-hand surface OR to each side of the fuselage OR vertical stabilizer.

The height of numerals shall be at least one (1) inch (25.4 mm). Both stroke and width shall be such to ENABLE READY RECOGNITION.  It is suggested that the letters USA (25.4 mm [1 inch] or higher) be placed at least once on the model. " End quote.

« Last Edit: November 18, 2018, 06:51:35 AM by Ty Marcucci »
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« Reply #9 on: October 21, 2018, 08:04:09 PM »
The CLPA rules, 2.4 state:"All models shall be identified by the CONTESTANTS'S AMA license number permanently affixed to the upper side of the right-hand surface OR to each side of the fuselage OR vertical stabilizer.

The height of numerals shall be at least one (1) inch (25.4 mm). Both stroke and width shall be such to ENABLE READY RECOGNITION.  It is suggested that the letters USA (25.4 mm [1 inch] or higher) be placed at least once on the model. " End quote.

The numbers are for ID and lawyers will pick  you to pieces of your model has no numbers or other numbers if you do any harm to body or property with said model. .   D>K


Interestingly enough, the same rules regarding AMA numbers on the model don't apply to all classes of models. I was bewildered to find that they're not required at all on R/C pylon racers, which seem much more likely to cause a claim than a PA plane. I'm also wondering if having the numbers on the "rudder" is ok, since the rule Ty quoted says "vertical stabalizer".  D>K Steve


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Re: AMA Number
« Reply #10 on: October 22, 2018, 12:02:02 AM »

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I'm also wondering if having the numbers on the "rudder" is ok, since the rule Ty quoted says "vertical stabalizer".  D>K Steve

Well, the "rudder" is a part of the vertical tail, or as in the term used in the rule book -  the "vertical stabilizer".

It will be a good trick to put a four or five or six digit AMA number, each being at least one inch high on a the portion of the "vertical stabilizer" that would be considered as a rudder on a stunt ship of "normal" dimensions.

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« Reply #11 on: June 21, 2019, 01:30:57 PM »
Just stumbled upon this topic again and thought I'd measure the models hanging in the shop. Skylark, Magnum Plus/Mutant Magnum, SV-11, Whittle Eagle, etc. The only one that the rudder/fin would not be tall enough to put the 1" numbers vertically lined up (at an angle parallel to the rudder TE) would be the Olympic, and I think that it would be possible to use a narrow enough numeral to align them horizontal for at least 4 and maybe 5 digits.

Nobody around here has ever tried to get AP's for a plane they didn't build! When I went to VSC and GSSC, I just didn't put my plane in the AP judging area. Maybe that wasn't kosher, but quickly solved on the flight circle.

If R/C Pylon airplanes aren't required to carry their owner's AMA number, I don't think PA planes need them. However, unless we change our rule, I think they need to be easily read and not require looking from various angles to see them. I'd rather change the rule and not require them at all.  R%%%% Steve
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Re: AMA Number
« Reply #12 on: June 21, 2019, 04:13:20 PM »
Well, the "rudder" is a part of the vertical tail, or as in the term used in the rule book -  the "vertical stabilizer".

It will be a good trick to put a four or five or six digit AMA number, each being at least one inch high on a the portion of the "vertical stabilizer" that would be considered as a rudder on a stunt ship of "normal" dimensions.

Keith

Just as the rules do not specify how much contrast the numbers have to have (or even that they be readable at all), they do not specify how wide the numbers have to be.  So, theoretically, you could make them 1 inch tall and 1/8 inch wide, or narrower.

For that matter, it doesn't specify font, so if you really wanted to get pounded as a smart***, you could use a QR code.

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Re: AMA Number
« Reply #13 on: Yesterday at 07:52:26 AM »
I mostly fly arfs or a plane someone else built I just dont  claim any appearance points I have to fly better lol still working on it
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Re: AMA Number
« Reply #14 on: Yesterday at 09:16:14 AM »

Interestingly enough, the same rules regarding AMA numbers on the model don't apply to all classes of models. I was bewildered to find that they're not required at all on R/C pylon racers, which seem much more likely to cause a claim than a PA plane. I'm also wondering if having the numbers on the "rudder" is ok, since the rule Ty quoted says "vertical stabalizer".  D>K Steve

   The numbers on the airplane is not about an insurance claim, its for identification of the pilot. The dictate of insurance is that the AMA number is on or in the airplane somewhere, no necessarily visible or easily accessible. That's from the safety code. The individual events either require a visible AMA number or not.

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Re: AMA Number
« Reply #15 on: Yesterday at 04:39:57 PM »
Oh, and BTW, for those heathens out here who don't fly AMA stunt or participate in FAI events, the 1" rule doesn't apply. (1" for AMA Stunt, 25mm for FAI)
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