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Offline Motorman

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Button Bellcrank
« on: July 25, 2025, 08:05:03 AM »
I had a Goodyear racer I made with a button bellcrank so the flying wires went through the lead out guide. The guide was one piece of brass tubing flattened and flared out then smoothed out and polished. Both lines went through it.

It worked great but, one day at full speed, the plane went straight into the pavement. The brass tube had developed a groove and apparently wore down and/or cut the up line.

Oh, and if you've never seen a high quality carbon prop that kissed the parking lot at a buck 20, it's pretty amazing the way the fibers flare out.

Anyway, what do you guys have at the wing tip for the lines to go through that might prevent this?

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Re: Button Bellcrank
« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2025, 09:42:02 AM »
Question, Walt: Was it a line-break or was it the line getting stuck in the groove?

I have seen an aluminum wing tip guide develop a groove where the lines pass through and which caused the lines to stick in the guide. Result pretty much as you described.

I suspect the placement of the guide also has some effect: too far forward or too far back causes the lines to continuously contact the guide in one spot, exacerbating the wear. Setting the leadout(guide) position using one of the various line-rake programs makes this less of a concern. (Also makes the model faster!)

Of course, there is always the fact that in a racing environment, the lines (or leadouts as the case may be) take a lot of abuse at the wingtip, and breaks occur there commonly if lines are not changed regularly. Once again, setting the guide position as mentioned also diminishes the abuse at the wingtip.

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Re: Button Bellcrank
« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2025, 11:05:54 AM »
The line was cut. The groove was fairly wide and all the way through the tubing in one spot. Was thinking of making something with a much bigger radius so the pressure is spread out. Like a 3/4 disk between two plates.

Has anyone determined the speed loss of using lead outs with outboard clips?

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Re: Button Bellcrank
« Reply #3 on: Yesterday at 10:16:07 PM »
Internal lines/ leadouts or external? Either way, you could make leadouts with the lines permanently connected externally. Make the lines as usual, with small eyelets. Then put the leadout wire through the middle of the eyelets. Make the airplane end of the leadouts to fit over the buttons, and you will still be able to remove and roll up the lines/ leadouts. Or, use solid leadouts with the wingtip ends fashioned into connectors. Both of these methods eliminate the drag of normal line connectors at the wingtip. See the Feb. 2025 issue of Torque Roll at nclra.org.

I have had good luck using a slotted piece of scrap maple motor mount for a line guide with internal lines/leadouts.

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