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Offline bob whitney

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Brodak clown racing
« on: February 05, 2025, 11:57:49 AM »
did i read someplace that the Brodak 15 is no longer legal in Brodak clown
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Re: Brodak clown racing
« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2025, 12:37:51 PM »
I don't know why people can't leave events alone when they seem to be getting entries.   I remember the Wichihawks of Wichita KS started the Goldberg Shoestring races.   The one rule I liked was entrant had to fly their own entry.  At different times they would have the pit man start for other people.  They even had it where one time the pit stop was done by the next pit man on the circle.  They had as many as ten or more entries.  Ringmasters were allowed until you got a Shoestring ready.   The Fox 35 stunt was only engine allowed.  Then when it opened up to other engines because people did not like the Fox.   I remember having 1400 lap race at Pawnee Rock one year.   Now people want to allow other planes in the Brodak Clown race with other engines.   If one wants to run any plain bearing 15 do it.   I don't see why the Brodak 15 should not be allowed other than people don't want to run them.  Of course I think we have too many racing events now as well as a few other events.   Surprised no one has started an only electric event. S?P D>K
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Re: Brodak clown racing
« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2025, 09:32:25 PM »
Don't the Brodak people control the Brodak rules? Doesn't seem logical they would ban their own engine. Stranger things have happened like the engine weight rule in TQR.

Electric racing would be interesting.


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Re: Brodak clown racing
« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2025, 07:55:49 AM »
did i read someplace that the Brodak 15 is no longer legal in Brodak clown
   It's still listed on the Brodak website as a legal engine for Clown racing.
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Re: Brodak clown racing
« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2025, 12:17:18 AM »
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If memory serves...the weight limit in TQR was to keep out the HB .40 PDP engine.

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Re: Brodak clown racing
« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2025, 08:49:14 AM »
I'm curious about something, please. I ask the following as I look for an entry point into larger, more capable planes than the typical 18"-21" 1/2A stuff I've built over that last few years.

I get the clown is a typical Hershey bar wing and the plane is a quick knock-together. Of course this suits budget racing as a cheap way in...both in time to build and cost of build.

But does the use of THIS particular airplane mean it is flat-rotten as a stunt trainer? I'd like to know just because of the appeal as a bigger-than -small trainer. It sure looks the part...but so does a .15 Akromaster.

Thanks in advance.

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Re: Brodak clown racing
« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2025, 09:28:01 AM »
I'm curious about something, please. I ask the following as I look for an entry point into larger, more capable planes than the typical 18"-21" 1/2A stuff I've built over that last few years.

I get the clown is a typical Hershey bar wing and the plane is a quick knock-together. Of course this suits budget racing as a cheap way in...both in time to build and cost of build.

But does the use of THIS particular airplane mean it is flat-rotten as a stunt trainer? I'd like to know just because of the appeal as a bigger-than -small trainer. It sure looks the part...but so does a .15 Akromaster.

Thanks in advance.

  I think any of the different size "Clowns" will be good for learning stunt basics at a minimum, and capable of more. I have a Brodak Baby Clown that does the entire AMA pattern with a Cox RTF product engine and appropriate size tank to get a 6 plus minute run. The Circus Prince looks like it may be light enough to be flown with a Norvel .061, and the other two or three larger versions just need appropriate sized engines on them, with the Super Clown being in the .35 size range and is eligible for Old Time Stunt. They all look to be easily reproduced or built in batches if that is what you want to do also. I have a Super Clown kit that will get built soon I hope just for something different and it will have a Fox .29 or .35 on the nose.
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Re: Brodak clown racing
« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2025, 10:32:39 AM »
The Flying Clown, Circus Prince and Super Clown all use the same rib pattern.  So once you're tooled up you can make ten like me.

My 1/2A stunter is a 15-size Clown built light with a TeeDee .049.  I have use for the Baby.
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Re: Brodak clown racing
« Reply #8 on: February 20, 2025, 06:01:09 PM »
MM

If memory serves...the weight limit in TQR was to keep out the HB .40 PDP engine.

Les

It also outlawed ST G40 abc pdp rear valve and ST Como 40 pdp baffle along with other rules that left out all of the north east flyers equipment. You have no idea the hell we were ready to rain down on you fools at the nats. #still butt hurt in Jersey.

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Re: Brodak clown racing
« Reply #9 on: February 20, 2025, 06:09:10 PM »
I get the clown is a typical Hershey bar wing and the plane is a quick knock-together. Of course this suits budget racing as a cheap way in...both in time to build and cost of build.

But does the use of THIS particular airplane mean it is flat-rotten as a stunt trainer? I'd like to know just because of the appeal as a bigger-than -small trainer. It sure looks the part...but so does a .15 Akromaster.

Thanks in advance.

If you want a plane that flys better than the typical small stuff you really have to get up into the 400 Sq. In. wing area range. Ringmaster S1, Flight Streak, Shark 402 type planes ect. are better to learn on and still easy to build.

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