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Title: Using vinyl. not bad!!
Post by: MarcusCordeiro on December 06, 2012, 02:39:08 PM
Though I do appreciate a good painting job, I decided to try something different and asked CFC Graphics
to make some stickers for me.
Charles was kind enough not to let me down, and got me exactly what I wanted.
Hope I make justice to his work.
It's not finished yet, but I liked very much, easy to apply and easy to trim. ;D

Marcus
Title: Re: Using vinyl. not bad!!
Post by: John Desrosiers on December 06, 2012, 03:30:52 PM
That is nice, love it.
Title: Re: Using vinyl. not bad!!
Post by: MarcusCordeiro on December 06, 2012, 04:55:53 PM
That is nice, love it.

Thanks John

Hope you like the finished thing...
Two part clear tomorrow morning S?P


Marcus
Title: Re: Using vinyl. not bad!!
Post by: Glenn (Gravitywell) Reach on December 06, 2012, 05:03:37 PM
WOW....super nice!
Title: Re: Using vinyl. not bad!!
Post by: MarcusCordeiro on December 06, 2012, 05:10:10 PM
WOW....super nice!

Thanks Glenn

This is the first Mustang i've ever built.
Next one will have a build up fuselage, like Pat Johnson's...

Marcus
Title: Re: Using vinyl. not bad!!
Post by: Avaiojet on December 07, 2012, 04:58:21 AM
Marcus,

Looking good so far!!

Will you put stripes on the wing tops? You should have enough material.

Charles
Title: Re: Using vinyl. not bad!!
Post by: Gene O'Keefe on December 07, 2012, 12:54:23 PM
Looking good .....is the vinyl "lightweight" or is it thick and adds a little bit of weight ?
Title: Re: Using vinyl. not bad!!
Post by: MarcusCordeiro on December 08, 2012, 07:46:24 AM
Yes Charles, you did send me a lot of stuff!
But i didn't think about the stripes on the top... anyway, Gene, no weight at all.
I liked very much the service and the final result, it was worth every penny.
By the way, going to the club in a few moments to fly that ship. #^ #^ #^
Hope it flies as well as it looks.

Thanks Charles/CFC Graphics

Marcus
Title: Re: Using vinyl. not bad!!
Post by: Avaiojet on December 08, 2012, 08:19:20 AM
Marcus,

You should have stripes on the wing tops also. You see that the most!

If you need more material, I'll send it free of charge.

Just let me know.

Charles

Title: Re: Using vinyl. not bad!!
Post by: MarcusCordeiro on December 08, 2012, 02:47:58 PM
Charles, thank you so much but I still got plenty of vinyl...
I'm really satisfied with this model, flies great!!
Everybody at the club was impressed with the look of it #^

Can't wait to build another one!! VD~

Marcus
Title: Re: Using vinyl. not bad!!
Post by: Steve Helmick on December 08, 2012, 05:01:29 PM
What are those kill markers? Looks like the Swiss flag. I didn't know we ever had to fight the Swiss, but maybe I fergot?  :-[  Steve
Title: Re: Using vinyl. not bad!!
Post by: MarcusCordeiro on December 09, 2012, 05:21:10 PM
What are those kill markers? Looks like the Swiss flag. I didn't know we ever had to fight the Swiss, but maybe I fergot?  :-[  Steve

They are just for decoration, no reference to any war or anything, just wanted to have a good looking model.

Marcus
Title: Re: Using vinyl. not bad!!
Post by: Avaiojet on December 09, 2012, 07:11:52 PM
They are just for decoration, no reference to any war or anything, just wanted to have a good looking model.Marcus

Marcus,

Those "kill" stickers were drawn on the plans in ink. Remember?

Who designed the model?

Steve does make a good point about those markings.

Little heat and they will come right off.

I could make and send something else?

Also, a bit of heat will take that star and bar off your right wing.

I can replace it. You should have stripes on the top of both wings. A suggestion.

No charge for any of that!

Let me know.

Charles
Title: Re: Using vinyl. not bad!!
Post by: MarcusCordeiro on December 10, 2012, 06:15:12 AM
Charles

Don't worry. This model is finished already.
I've sprayed the two-part clear and am absolutely happy with the result.
Two things here:
We should start talking about my next project and you were right about the two-part, next model I will take to a body shop and have it done. I have limitated room to do it and the mess is not worth it.
I do recommend CFC Graphics services... Top notch!!

Marcus
Title: Re: Using vinyl. not bad!!
Post by: john e. holliday on December 10, 2012, 09:57:11 AM
If you do don't tell us about it or have a photo made unless you have the gun in your hand with you in the paint booth.   Really I could care less about who shoots the final coat of finish on a plane.  It  is the basic construction that makes a finish come out right.
Title: Re: Using vinyl. not bad!!
Post by: MarcusCordeiro on December 10, 2012, 12:18:00 PM
If you do don't tell us about it or have a photo made unless you have the gun in your hand with you in the paint booth.   Really I could care less about who shoots the final coat of finish on a plane.  It  is the basic construction that makes a finish come out right.
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You're right John. I like to do the most building and finishing I can, but I got tired of the mess.
Oh, by the way,saw your birthday is coming, so many happy returns!

Marcus
Title: Re: Using vinyl. not bad!!
Post by: john e. holliday on December 10, 2012, 04:32:32 PM
Thank you. 
Title: Re: Using vinyl. not bad!!
Post by: Scott Bauman on December 10, 2012, 09:07:54 PM
Looks great!!
How did it fly?
-Scott
Title: Re: Using vinyl. not bad!!
Post by: MarcusCordeiro on December 11, 2012, 06:21:47 AM
Looks great!!
How did it fly?
-Scott

The first take off was one of the most amazing ones I've ever had...She ran smooth and lifted from the ground so beautifully, like a Mustang should.
I started doing a few stunts just to get the "feeling" and she's docile, predictable and esy to fly. Have had a few engine issues , but the model is excellent.
A smooth landing and I was 100% satisfied with her.
Everybody told me these profiles WWII from Brodak were good... theywere right!! #^ #^
Intend to build one ME 109 soon.

Marcus
Title: Re: Using vinyl. not bad!!
Post by: john e. holliday on December 11, 2012, 08:52:52 AM
The Brodak warbirds are great designs.   Everyone I have built has almost flown right off the board.  Engine issues on one kept me from doing the pattern  first time out.  Glad yours is working for you.
Title: Re: Using vinyl. not bad!!
Post by: MarcusCordeiro on December 11, 2012, 08:57:18 AM
Thank you John!

Marcus
Title: Re: Using vinyl. not bad!!
Post by: Avaiojet on December 11, 2012, 04:18:28 PM
Marcus,

Congratulations on your first flight with your Mustang.

How is your flap/elevator set-up?

One to one?

Charles
Title: Re: Using vinyl. not bad!!
Post by: MarcusCordeiro on December 11, 2012, 04:33:23 PM
Charles

Yes, I kept the plans set up, only added a brodak adjustable pushrod kit, the one with the ball links, so it would be easier to get it right.
The model is very good and easy to build and with a little work, it looks great!

Marcus
Title: Re: Using vinyl. not bad!!
Post by: Dennis Toth on March 01, 2013, 03:48:19 PM
Marcus,
One question about the vinyl graphics, did you clear over them or use wax?

Best,   DennisT
Title: Re: Using vinyl. not bad!!
Post by: MarcusCordeiro on March 01, 2013, 04:03:41 PM
Dennis

I shot the clear over the vinyl, to prevent any edges coming off with time, or cleaning.
There was no adverse reaction, like the clear attacking the stickers or anything like that.


Marcus
Title: Re: Using vinyl. not bad!!
Post by: Dennis Toth on March 02, 2013, 06:29:35 AM
Marcus,
Just for information what clear did you use, what reducer and how much.

I had some vinyl letters have the edge roll a bit after I sprayed Sig Lite Coat clear with 60% Brodak thinner. Do you know the brand of vinyl? I also cut out some graphics from a sheet of Coverite vinyl and sprayed the same clear with no problem. I don't know the brand the shop used for the lettering that rolled.

Best,          DennisT
Title: Re: Using vinyl. not bad!!
Post by: john e. holliday on March 02, 2013, 08:15:31 AM
Maybe the clear was put on too heavy at first.   Always start with super light coats and stay light until enough clear is on.  My thoughts and experience even with Mnokote graphics.
Title: Re: Using vinyl. not bad!!
Post by: MarcusCordeiro on March 02, 2013, 03:20:21 PM
Marcus,
Just for information what clear did you use, what reducer and how much.

I had some vinyl letters have the edge roll a bit after I sprayed Sig Lite Coat clear with 60% Brodak thinner. Do you know the brand of vinyl? I also cut out some graphics from a sheet of Coverite vinyl and sprayed the same clear with no problem. I don't know the brand the shop used for the lettering that rolled.

Best,          DennisT

It was the regular two-part, but I can't remember the brand. The vinyl you will have to ask Charles at CFC graphics, he did them for me.
As long as you do what Doc said you shouldn't have any problems.
Shooting the clear is an art, like my friend Marlus says, he is a master painter. I myself don't like to shoot clear, I've got a heavy hand, but only practice makes perfection S?P

Marcus
Title: Re: Using vinyl. not bad!!
Post by: Bill Little on March 02, 2013, 04:51:31 PM
As to who designed this Warbird, it was my late good buddy, Mike Garmon.  The P-51 was the first of the series.  He also designed the Sea Hurricane, Me-109, FW 190, and the Zero.  All of those use a shortened '57 Green Box Nobler wing.  IIRC, Mike said he removed rib #1 and used #2 through the tip rib.  I was fortunate to build the Zero Prototype, and it is the best flying profile I have ever had.  Powered that one with an "OLD" (well used! LOL!!) O.S. .35S.

BIG Bear
RNMM/AMM
Title: Re: Using vinyl. not bad!!
Post by: MarcusCordeiro on March 03, 2013, 03:47:27 AM
As to who designed this Warbird, it was my late good buddy, Mike Garmon.  The P-51 was the first of the series.  He also designed the Sea Hurricane, Me-109, FW 190, and the Zero.  All of those use a shortened '57 Green Box Nobler wing.  IIRC, Mike said he removed rib #1 and used #2 through the tip rib.  I was fortunate to build the Zero Prototype, and it is the best flying profile I have ever had.  Powered that one with an "OLD" (well used! LOL!!) O.S. .35S.

BIG Bear
RNMM/AMM

That explains why it flies so greatly!!

Marcus