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Title: Real silver-look?
Post by: FLOYD CARTER on July 01, 2012, 05:29:44 PM
I remember some discussion on a silver butyrate that looks like silver, and not a dull grey!

I DO NOT use "unknown" paints, only butyrate, and especially Brodak.  But their silver is not so great in the shine department.

I always top coat with urethane automotive 2-part clear.

Can anyone come up with a "better looking" silver?

Floyd
Title: Re: Real silver-look?
Post by: john e. holliday on July 01, 2012, 07:56:12 PM
Try your local automotive paint store for silver.  I used silver one time and never again.   Have to keep stirring paint to keep the silver from settling to bottom of can. H^^
Title: Re: Real silver-look?
Post by: Allan Perret on July 01, 2012, 08:02:17 PM
I remember some discussion on a silver butyrate that looks like silver, and not a dull grey!

I DO NOT use "unknown" paints, only butyrate, and especially Brodak.  But their silver is not so great in the shine department.

I always top coat with urethane automotive 2-part clear.

Can anyone come up with a "better looking" silver?

Floyd
Did you know that Brodak has 2 different silvers.  The B-25 Silver is supposed to have more pigment and give better coverage/
Title: Re: Real silver-look?
Post by: Matt Colan on July 01, 2012, 11:37:35 PM
I remember some discussion on a silver butyrate that looks like silver, and not a dull grey!

I DO NOT use "unknown" paints, only butyrate, and especially Brodak.  But their silver is not so great in the shine department.

I always top coat with urethane automotive 2-part clear.

Can anyone come up with a "better looking" silver?

Floyd

I tried silver on my Oriental Plus and I like the color itself but don't like it's adhesion properties and the fact it shows every single flaw in the woodwork.  I didn't want to use gray for my Trivial Pursuit because I don't care for the color.  I went out to create a silver-like color without the metallic in it.  I mixed gray with blue and very little black to get what I wanted.  It's more of a bluish color than silver but I like it!

Hope this helps!  H^^

PS. The ratio I used to mix it was 2:1 Brodak Platinum Gray to Brodak Insignia Blue.  Then I added very little black to get the color
Title: Re: Real silver-look?
Post by: Mark Scarborough on July 02, 2012, 08:08:12 AM
I remember some discussion on a silver butyrate that looks like silver, and not a dull grey!

I DO NOT use "unknown" paints, only butyrate, and especially Brodak.  But their silver is not so great in the shine department.

I always top coat with urethane automotive 2-part clear.

Can anyone come up with a "better looking" silver?

Floyd
Floyd,
I cannot say much more about any different silvers,, but it may help to "gun tint" it a bit. the drier you spray silver, the more sparkle it will have,, same if you add more reducer before you spray. This causes the metal flakes to stand up instead of flowing and laying down. Just be very carefull spraying clear over it as you can reflow the metal flakes,, several light coats of clear over it before you do anything else.
Title: Re: Real silver-look?
Post by: Jim Thomerson on July 02, 2012, 03:44:21 PM
There is a chrome paint the plastic modelers use on car bumpers, etc.  I've seen it successfully used to color a canopy.  I once sprayed a plastic canopy on the inside with spray can aluminum paint.  The inside of the canopy was bright aluminum and the outside was grey.   :o
Title: Re: Real silver-look?
Post by: Tim Wescott on July 02, 2012, 04:12:27 PM
There is a chrome paint the plastic modelers use on car bumpers, etc.  I've seen it successfully used to color a canopy.  I once sprayed a plastic canopy on the inside with spray can aluminum paint.  The inside of the canopy was bright aluminum and the outside was grey.   :o

That's it!  Spray your clear-coat first, then spray silver, then put the plane into the paint job!
Title: Re: Real silver-look?
Post by: Dennis Adamisin on July 03, 2012, 06:38:48 AM
That's it!  Spray your clear-coat first, then spray silver, then put the plane into the paint job!

Yup, I think that technique is called "monocoting"...
Title: Re: Real silver-look?
Post by: David Hoover on July 03, 2012, 07:22:29 AM
There is a down side to a shiny silver finish - it will show every finger mark and grease smudge that gets within 10 feet of the plane.  You will go nuts constantly wiping down the plane to keep it looking good and then your hand print will show where you were holding it while wiping it off.  Years ago I used chrome Monocote on the wings and rudder of a plane and swore that never again would I do that.  The shiny silver had an interesting effect on the rudder - while flying around the circle, the reflection of the changing surroundings made the rudder look as if it was moving.  On more than one occasion I was asked if I had a Rabe rudder - on a Twister!  A small area of shiny silver would be OK but I'd stay away from doing the whole plane that way.

Best, Hoovie
Title: Re: Real silver-look?
Post by: FLOYD CARTER on July 04, 2012, 03:50:47 PM
Yeah.  I hate silver for all the reasons given, and then some!  But I'm building another P-51 The prototype I chose has silver on the bottom.  I'll try some of the ideas found here.

Floyd