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Offline Chuck_Smith

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Dupli-Color Acrylic Laquer
« on: December 26, 2012, 03:02:22 PM »
Since we're winter-boind here in the NYS Finger Lakes area, I decided on a whim to try Dupli-Color white acrylic laquer as a base coat on the BOSS 529.

Upside - rattle cans have come a looong way. Smell is tolerable in a basement.

Downside - coverage is a little dodgy. No bad, just not like Supercoat. Weight...this stuff is heavy!  I decided to stop with a few thin spots I can manipulate with trim...but be advised this is a heavy finish. might be related to the coverage.  Turned a nice lightweight into average. It also shrinks a lot. Lifted a fillet for me which never happens when I use dope.

Once it warms up I'll go over with Lite-Coat clear.


Still, it seems a viable alternative for someone wthout a compressor and spray guns.

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Re: Dupli-Color Acrylic Laquer
« Reply #1 on: December 27, 2012, 03:12:44 PM »
Chuck,

Like Ed, I have used DupliColor for years and never had a problem.  I seal the wood with MinnWax lacquer sealer and then use DC gray primer.  Then color from either a spray gun or spray cans.  Then I clear coat with three part auto clear.  Attached photo plane was shot using white DC from a spray gun and all trim colors from a spray can.  Keep using it.  I think you'll like it the more you do.  I find it's a very easy paint to apply and repair.

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Re: Dupli-Color Acrylic Laquer
« Reply #2 on: December 28, 2012, 08:37:20 AM »
With the price of dope,  I may have to try this Dupli Color.   
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Re: Dupli-Color Acrylic Laquer
« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2012, 12:29:06 PM »
I think it is important to bring up the fact that Duplicolor makes four (4) different formulas of paint, three are in spray cans.  One is the "Touch Up" spray cans (used to be labeled Truck, Van, and SUV).  It is the older style Acrylic Lacquer automotive paint.  The next is a true "Lacquer" and has "Lacquer" on the front of the can.  The third spray can category is Acrylic Enamel.  Heaviest of the bunch.  (there are actually even more!)

The fourth is their quart cans in the "Paint Shop' series.  These are pre-mixed VOC compliant lacquers for automotive painting.  I like these the best because you can thin them even more if needed.  These spray very easily.  Cost is around $22-$25 per quart.  Still cheaper than Sig! LOL!!

And remember, white is the heaviest color.

Another possibility for a "dope" finish is to use the toners (pigments) only of a color and mix it in clear dope (like Randolphs!)

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Re: Dupli-Color Acrylic Laquer
« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2012, 04:56:14 AM »
Interesting. This is Dupli-Color Acrylic Lacquer. Since I was trying something new I even read the directions. I used the Dupli-Color Sandable Primer ( grey ) as a base over the silkspan which was shrunk with Supercoat and then filled with Lite-Coat, shot with silver dope and wet-sanded. Wet sanded the primer and then gave it a dry buff sand with 1000.

Since the coverage was bad and the weight was getting to be more than I wanted to deal with I left a few thin spots figuring I'll trim over them anyway. Yesterday I started laying out the trim... and now a new problem. The white lacquer is not well bonded to the primer, and is lifting off with the tape. Not in sheets, but a little speck here and there.

So far, this is a lot heavier than dope, and not as easy to work with. I'm glad I tried this on a "for fun" airplane and not a competition-level one.
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Re: Dupli-Color Acrylic Laquer
« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2012, 08:03:07 AM »

Certainly no one will expect the hobbyist to build a spray booth and collect all the equipment needed just to paint a model or two per year. Some are more fortunate, they have that stuff or they have access and assets in the business, but others do not.

With that said, concessions must be made, obviously, but good results can still be obtained.

Aerosol primers.

Spies Hecker is a great brand of paint. I have years of experience using it. Here's the thing. I know Spies has a red brown primer available in aerosol cans. I haven't purchased a can in years, but I believe it's about 20 bucks. Probably not your first choice for color?

Possibly by now, they may have other colors available in aerosol cans also? I do know Spies offers a primer that can be mixed for any top coat color, but then you need spray equipment. I don't know if they can put it in aerosol cans? I've been out of and away from the business for some time, so I'm not up on new stuff.

I do know many automobile paint manufacturers have primers available in a choice of basic, what you could call, colors. Dupont has a white primer. When the time comes, my interest would be the Dupont white primer.

Heavy?

90 % of the primer should be sanded away. A "trace" coat makes this easier. Something to google.

The Spies stuff sticks and sticks well.

Early on I was taught to never mix brands. Something worth considering.

Try the Spies Hecker primer, you'll be glad you did.   ;D

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Re: Dupli-Color Acrylic Laquer
« Reply #6 on: January 01, 2013, 01:49:55 PM »
Goes back to my normal mantra: use compatible products. Lacquer it hard enough to do without things going sideways. Using stuff that is made to work together takes one element out of the equation.
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Re: Dupli-Color Acrylic Laquer
« Reply #7 on: January 01, 2013, 02:20:30 PM »
Yep, and if you have a system that works, stay with it. I read here that this stuff was compatible with SIG dope.

Nope.

Shot some clear over it to see what would happen, and perhaps provide a barrier for the trim. It just loosens up and runs when the SIG hits it.

If you leave out the retarder and use a fast-dry thinner you can put it on dry enough, but that has the pitfall of requiring LOTS of wet-sanding to get rid of the "sandpaper" finish.

Like I said, this was a fun build to try new things. If this had been a serious build I would be in real trouble right now. It would mean sanding everything off with the inevitable sand-throughs on cap-strips and subsequent repairs.

It takes a lot of work to build a straight, light ship. Rolling the dice on finish after all that is ... dumb. Now I have a borderline heavy ship with finish issues. I'll cut some simple vinyl trim just to dress it up and leave it be.

You'd think that after doing this for 40 years I'd know better. 
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