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Offline Paul Allen

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Polyspan pin holes
« on: December 25, 2014, 04:39:23 PM »
Has anybody else had this happen to their polyspan, I have had this happen
on the last two models, I used the last of my Starline polyspan and started
on a roll from another supplier, this new stuff is not up to the standard of
the old polyspan, even with 4 to 5 coats of dope the pin holes show up in
the open bay on the wing, so I recovered the bays only with lightweight silkspan
applied wet and doped through, rubbing down with my finger,justs mean a bit extra work!
Paul
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Offline john e. holliday

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Re: Polyspan pin holes
« Reply #1 on: December 25, 2014, 09:18:56 PM »
Sounds like the dope is too thin if you are brushing it.
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Re: Polyspan pin holes
« Reply #2 on: December 26, 2014, 12:41:46 AM »
John
       50/50 dope & thinners, and this worked a treat on the Starline poly
but not the new stuff, may be it needs a coat or two with no thinning.
Paul
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Offline Larry Renger

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Re: Polyspan pin holes
« Reply #3 on: December 26, 2014, 08:34:22 AM »
OR! Cover the undoped polyspan with SLC film. No dope required, no pinholes, lighter and stronger than doped polyspan by far. Scuff with steel wool and prime. No filler needed.
Think S.M.A.L.L. y'all and, it's all good, CL, FF and RC!

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Re: Polyspan pin holes
« Reply #4 on: January 02, 2015, 10:25:01 PM »
I have had that happen with the original "Starline" polyspan. Lots of actual pin holes after shrinking. I used straight dope carefully applied with a brush to seal them up. Then careful sanding and a sprayed coat or two of clear. Finish in this case was clear dope so didn't have to worry about a color coat. Light silkspan would be reasonable solution as well. Extra work, what the heck, I always enjoyed applying silkspan, too bad one can't get the good stuff anymore.

I always understood these to be different than "fisheyes" were a silicon induced surface defect in the paint, not actual holes. Probably even have a jaf of Windy's "Fisheye Killer" somewhere in the paint locker. 8)
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Re: Polyspan pin holes
« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2015, 09:03:53 AM »

 This works for me when I get small pin holes in dope:  I take spackeling compound thinned with water & rub it over the areas, with a finger, that have pin holes in them. Wipe the areas off with a damp rag & let dry completely. Brush or spray over this area with dope & the pin holes are gone. I'm sure that talc could be substituted for the spackle, but I have not tried it. Its easy enough to try & it doesn't add any weight......Gene

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Re: Polyspan pin holes
« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2015, 09:15:07 AM »
I always understood these to be different than "fisheyes" were a silicon induced surface defect in the paint, not actual holes. Probably even have a jaf of Windy's "Fisheye Killer" somewhere in the paint locker. 8)

Yup.  Fisheye is different from pinholes.  I've had the dubious pleasure of experiencing both -- fisheyes on a primed metal car part (where pinholes would be rather unexpected), and pinholes on silkspan.  They look different, but it's hard to describe how other than you can usually see the pinhole in the bottom layer once the hole in the paint points it out to you, while the bottom of a fisheye is smooth and flat against the underlying layer.
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Re: Polyspan pin holes
« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2015, 02:21:15 AM »
Yeah Paul I know "exactly" what you are talking about.
I recently covered two models and both displayed these minute inconsistent pin holes after painting and they were not visible prior to paint application.
After exhausting research it was suggested to me that at sometime in the past I had sprayed a fish oil based RP-7 or WD-40 in the workshop and the fine mist had travelled (which it apparently does) to where I had the Aerospan (Polyspan) stored under a bench and it had not been protected.
No matter how well you clean the model prior to painting, there is no way the contaminate can be removed, as it impregnates into the fibres and lays in wait to repel the paint when applied.
Once done it cannot be rectified no matter how much you sand back the paint and re-apply a new coat - you have it for the life of the model !!!!
This answer doesn't help, but it does let you know to keep water displacing products out of the workshop and to keep your covering material "well" covered when not in use.
Cheers, Tony.

Offline Paul Allen

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Re: Polyspan pin holes
« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2015, 12:51:35 PM »
Hi Tony
            The pinholes were holes when you backed a light to the other side of the wing, you can see through them.
The lightweight silkspan solved this, never too old to learn!
Thanks for the tip re the WD 40.

Paul
 

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Re: Polyspan pin holes
« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2015, 04:05:19 PM »
Larry,

Why not just cover it with the SLC film period, without overlaying the polyspan? The question results from the fact that I have never used either of them, but would like to know for the future.
Guy Blankinship

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Re: Polyspan pin holes
« Reply #10 on: February 01, 2015, 11:36:54 AM »
Film over tissue is incredibly tough comparred to either alone.
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